Some Somalis are now claiming Harar, and calling Hararis a fake ethnicity

[GaradShabeel]

OP, what’s wrong with Somalis claiming Harar?

 

[Aurelian]

It's true, but i don't know what we benefit from shitting on our historically biggest Muslim ally in the HOA. Somalis are politically illiterate it seems

They don't view them as one ethnic group, but a punch of ppl including Oromos.

 

[Aurelian]

OP, what’s wrong with Somalis claiming Harar?

The thing is, they are saying there is no such ethnic group as Hararis, but those who claim to be Hararis are in fact Oromos, Gurage, and sidamos. This is the same attacks as the Oromos claiming Hararis to be imposers Aderi. This is an attack on this vulnerable people.

 

[Abdisamadi]

They don't view them as one ethnic group, but a punch of ppl including Oromos.

That's the problem isn't it, too many armchair politicans and historians online who think anyone gives a shit about their opinion.

 

[Aseer]

The thing is, they are saying there is no such ethnic group as Hararis, but those who claim to be Hararis are in fact Oromos, Gurage, and sidamos. This is the same attacks as the Oromos claiming Hararis to be imposers Aderi. This is an attack on this vulnerable people.

Disgusting those oromos are replacing the poor people they even go so far to even claim that they are the "real" hararis.

 

[Aurelian]

Disgusting those oromos are replacing the poor people they even go so far to even claim that they are the "real" hararis.

Yes, and they call the real Hararis Aderi. Scumbags.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Why are hararis being attacked on that post they are miskeen ? we should be welcoming them

 

[Aseer]

Yes, and they call the real Hararis Aderi. Scumbags.

Wallahi the the oromos are a pest and plague to Horn of africa we would be better off without those bastards.

 

[Abdisamadi]

The thing is, they are saying there is no such ethnic group as Hararis, but those who claim to be Hararis are in fact Oromos, Gurage, and sidamos. This is the same attacks as the Oromos claiming Hararis to be imposers Aderi. This is an attack on this vulnerable people.

Ehhhhhhhhhh. Many genetics expert on this forum will tell you they group with Amxaar more than anyone on the eastern side of the horn, even Oromos. They aren't really native but more of a people descendant from the urban population of the wider Islamic area. Even their claims of a "HUGE" genocide are dubious wallahi, they were a small urban rich people by definition, it doesn't make much sense

BUUUUUT, they are our Muslim allies, so they are valuable in controlling the wider area.

 

[Aseer]

Why are hararis being attacked on that post they are miskeen ? we should be welcoming them

Exactly bro the hararis are the OG friends to somali people these guys were standing by us side by side like a brother advocating for somaliweyn they hoped that we can accomplish it and save them from the oromos but we have failed them and we have failed ourselves as a people.

 

[Three Moons]

Also, I decided to check out the wikipedia page for Adal and saw this

Adal Sultanate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wtf is this? Since when did Adal subjugated all of the Horn including Mogadishu? And parts of Yemen and nearly all of Sudan too? Madagascar even? Lmao what are those wiki guys smoking.View attachment 313006

It never stretched this far into the Sudan all the way to Egypt, and Mogadishu was a supporter of Adal, so it should be having a different related color to highlight its allied status, though I have seen historic maps that include it as part of the ‘Kingdom of Adal’. The Madagascar link has not been researched properly and should be dismissed. Yemen had Somali settlements, but there is no proof as of yet that they maintained political ties with their original homeland.

It would be cool though if they made a map like the one below about the Vikings but instead highlighted all of the territories, cities and settlements that were covered, established and traded with by historic states and individuals from Somalia;

 

[wheel]

Somalihoteps just fkn claim anything if it's muslim and has dubious origins.

 

[wonyluvr]

Disgusting those oromos are replacing the poor people they even go so far to even claim that they are the "real" hararis.

that’s kind of sad oromos make up around 60% of harari region whilst hararis only make up around 10% whilst I don’t hate oromos hararis only got harar and that’s pretty much it.

 

[Aurelian]

Ehhhhhhhhhh. Many genetics expert on this forum will tell you they group with Amxaar more than anyone on the eastern side of the horn, even Oromos. They aren't really native but more of a people descendant from the urban population of the wider Islamic area. Even their claims of a "HUGE" genocide are dubious wallahi, they were a small urban rich people by definition, it doesn't make much sense

BUUUUUT, they are our Muslim allies, so they are valuable in controlling the wider area.

so what if they cluster much closer to Amxaar? they are native to Harar, their language although being semitic, but it is distinct to that of ethiopian Highlands.

 

[Aseer]

that’s kind of sad oromos make up around 60% of harari region whilst hararis only make up around 10% whilst I don’t hate oromos hararis only got harar and that’s pretty much it.

The oromos should be evicted from harar and hararis should be allowed to repopulate their city its the least they can do and that city is all they have.

 

[Aseer]

so what if they cluster much closer to Amxaar? they are native to Harar, their language although being semitic, but it is distinct to that of ethiopian Highlands.

Same as eritreans the hararis are as distant to them as the eritreans are as distant to the amhar.

 

[Cartan Boos]

they literally are fake, no harari was ever mentioned post 20th, the city is said to be inhabited by berber somali, oldest describtion of harari inhabitants 1814 describes as soley somali berberi, keep seething, doesn't matter if u muslim u not gonna leach off our history

harari was founded by adal 15s it was never founded in 9th

 

[Cartan Boos]

I agree that Hararis are miskeen but remember that Harlas themselves claim Somalis and Harar shares many similarities with other walled cities Somalis lived in.

Hararis are a fake ethnicity , we have to gatekeep Adal history from Ethiopian hoteps

they're darood sxb

 

[wonyluvr]

The oromos should be evicted from harar and hararis should be allowed to repopulate their city it’s the least they can do and that city is all they have.

some believe harar is rightfully theirs hararis need to stand up cause everybody is claiming their city

 

[Cartan Boos]

Also, I decided to check out the wikipedia page for Adal and saw this

Adal Sultanate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wtf is this? Since when did Adal subjugated all of the Horn including Mogadishu? And parts of Yemen and nearly all of Sudan too? Madagascar even? Lmao what are those wiki guys smoking.View attachment 313006

that's stretch but adal did reach sudan and mass kill nubian, beja join us willingly tho, ajuran and adal did do join army expansion to madagascar