SSC Khatumo Must Destroy Somaliland Security Permantly

[Samatar03]

It’s hilarious seeing a certain demographic bark on here. If I were them, I would’ve left this site and never returned after 8//25.

They all left but came back after Biixi was handed a lifeline by Abiy lol. Niggas really thought they was back.

 

[Samatar03]

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[Ozark]

This is cap most of SL army are from West SL , all the weapons come from the West saldhigs.

All of SL army + some Ciise and Samaroon even Gabooye were caught


If you put HA and some Samaroon, Ciise, Cidigale etc.

You'd see most Galbeed Landers in LA prison

Your right. Idk why ppl just think it’s HJ in prisons when a lot of them are @Garaad Awal people. Also HY are numerous in there.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

The most interesting thing is the whole anti Siad Barre thing becomes questionable because he uses all the same arguments that you use now so is Somaliland 'faqash' or Siad Barre?

Siad Barre fought the SNM because they contested his authority and 'monopoly over force' like you talk about.

They colluded with an hostile enemy state that helped them with the intention of destroying Somalia.

So the question is, if it is wrong for SSC to oppose Somaliland's authority, then the SNM was also wrong and your whole secession becomes illegitimate. There's no world in which you can have both at the same time.

Army will always defend itself, there's no other business for an army to do.

Democratic army and military dictatorship army are two different things. Democracatic countries don't take things anyway near as far, as people can influence things and show dissent.

So Somaliland can never be what you are trying to compare.

People have different ideas about what to do about the region.

 

[Samatar03]

Your right. Idk why ppl just think it’s HJ in prisons when a lot of them are @Garaad Awal people. Also HY are numerous in there.

So a pretty representative cross section of beesha dhexe society? Well, it’s good to hear that SSC is atleast just to it’s ‘prisoners’. Cadaalad badana Garaadada!

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

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You see this is a bullshit argument. The kind you are used to making, from a weird humanistic angle.

You can find plenty of neutral sources that talk about Somaliland and none of them say it's totally crazy to secede from a state. Maybe if your religion is Somalinimo it's unthinkable and mad otherwise it's a totally normal thing.

Having wars in contested territories is also normal.

 

[Ozark]

So a pretty representative cross section of beesha dhexe society? Well, it’s good to hear that SSC is atleast just to it’s ‘prisoners’. Cadaalad badana Garaadada!

Yeah pretty much. HJ just took the brunt of the slander but there all involved as much as them. Even in deaths.

 

[Samatar03]

@Ozark Any plans for a prison work release program for beesha dhexe pows? Maybe a chain gang to help clean up the street of debris and litter? I think the exercise would help them, don’t you agree?

 

[Samatar03]

Yeah pretty much. HJ just took the brunt of the slander but there all involved as much as them. Even in deaths.

What about Buqdharkayn and Bali Omar, etc? I hear HJ have been deported from there. That bulldozer was pretty disturbing. I hope SSC isn’t using the Israeli playbook! We are all Somali after all.

 

[Ozark]

@Ozark Any plans for a prison work release program for beesha dhexe pows? Maybe a chain gang to help clean up the street of debris and litter? I think the exercise would help them, don’t you agree?

Majority of the foot soldiers need to mine the fields and work for their freedoms. Obviously the commanders will get either life or death sentences.

Seeing as they will go on another suicide mission, our prisons are gonna be over capacity so it’s probably prudent to just take no prisoners this time around.

 

[Ozark]

What about Buqdharkayn and Bali Omar, etc? I hear HJ have been deported from there. That bulldozer was pretty disturbing. I hope SSC isn’t using the Israeli playbook! We are all Somali after all.

It’s idoors that took the Israeli playbook by saying people can move but land cannot, if we had the same mentality, we’d cleanse them from Sool and Sanaag within weeks.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Walee nin waalan baan la hadlaya

How did you go on this tangent warya it was a simple question. The SNM rebelled and instigated a war against the sovereign and legitimate Somali government and you supported it.

A group has now said they backed out of Somaliland, an UNRECOGNISED, autonomous part of Somalia - i.e not even a proper country and you are crying about sovereignty.

You don't care about sovereignty or government you just support your qabiil you can say it with your chest and save us the fake political lectures.

You are comparing SL and SDR. Democracy and Military dictatorship. Recognized or not the claim is just as legitimate. You want to bow down to the rules based order (which is gaal) but not colonial borders, munafiqimo is your business.
SDR was writing letters of death and doing wholesale genocide. Razing cities to the ground, mercenaries the whole lot.
You want to draw a parallel and I won't let you so there, call me crazy.

 

[Samatar03]

Majority of the foot soldiers need to mine the fields and work for their freedoms. Obviously the commanders will get either life or death sentences.

Seeing as they will go on another suicide mission, our prisons are gonna be over capacity so it’s probably prudent to just take no prisoners this time around.

I think the exercise would be good for them. Can’t imagine being cramped sitting in a cell for 8-9 months with dozens of people. They should be used to rebuild the city and perhaps a penal colony should be built for them in Goojacade.

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

You are comparing SL and SDR.
SDR was writing letters of death and doing wholesale genocide. Razing cities to the ground, mercenaries the whole lot.
You want to draw a parallel and I won't let you so there, call me crazy.

I was referring to when the SNM started. There was no genocide then or razing cities. The violence happened AFTER the SNM formed. My point is not related to this violence but to the principle of whether rebellion or secession is wrong. According to you, it is fine for the SNM but not fine when someone else does it.

It was a simple point that you yourself are happy to rebel against a government when it's your qabiil but when another does so you come out with all this bs about 'sovereignty'

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I was referring to when the SNM started. There was no genocide then or razing cities.

It was a simple point that you yourself are happy to rebel against a government when it's your qabiil but when another does so you come out with all this bs about 'sovereignty'

Recognized or not the claim is just as legitimate. You want to bow down to the rules based order (which is gaal) but not colonial borders, munafiqimo is your business.
The claim is there. We stand on that business whether you like it or not.

 

[Samatar03]

Recognized or not the claim is just as legitimate. You want to bow down to the rules based order (which is gaal) but not colonial borders, munafiqimo is your business.
The claim is there. We stand on that business whether you like it or not.

Try to atleast keep your though process ordered and answer the questions instead of just blindly typing away.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Try to atleast keep your though process ordered and answer the questions instead of just blindly typing away.

Are you still here?

 

[Samatar03]

Are you still here?

Did a voice in your head tell you I left sxb?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Good so you acknowledge then the SNM were filthy bastards who dismembered our country and also played a large role in creating the mess we are discussing today.

There is no way you can have both either they are both insurgents or they are both legitimate.

No I don't acknowledge that at all. There was a regime that was unpopular otherwise SL wouldn't have been enough to take it down. Again, just your hyperfixation on SL gives you away.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Did a voice in your head tell you I left sxb?

Dude you literally argued with yourself a couple pages back or did you forget. I might have to remind you again

It probably would benefit harti and imo the biggest beneficiary has been PL that no longer needs to worry about SL and has a United harti standing behind it. My vote would have been to not stop at Oog but oh well. PL has incredible luck sometimes. Completely unexplainable.

What has Bari got to do with me or you? You keep seeking to deflect. Dantaada garo my boi. What happens in other lands will not have any bearing on what happens in your land. This is a thread about SSC and SL. I know it’s hard to look at your reality but looking away from it won’t change your situation for the better. Xanuunka illahay hakaa caafiyo sxb.