The dangers of Sufism. Sufis come in

[East side]

Salafis are a new sect created recently,
Basically bidica how are you going to create a new sect

So what do they follow thats new? Salafis are saying thete is too much bidca and we want to go back to basis. Quran and sunnah. The name means original....so they are basically ahulu sunnah. I dont see them praying to sheikhs and the prophet, sing in graves and practice weird things like suffis.

 

[tesfey67n]

They speak about sayid abdalla hassan for a brief moment. lets discuss

A salafi telling me whats wrong and right, they never change do they. I dont see anything wrog with sufism, many prophets were sufis

 

[Abdalla]

Call me when a Sufi blows himself up

 

[Cauli]

Sufism = Respects cultural pluralism

Salafism = Arab supremacy.

 

[East side]

Call me when a Sufi blows himself up

Call me when salafi does. Khawarij aint salafis and call them talafi. They accuse them of being under the thumb of the leaders of the country. So the idea people mix khawarij with salafis shows how little people know. I veen to mosque where a salafi sheikh condemned bin ladin and an actual fight broke up because few stood up and say how can you talk ill about sheikh bin ladin. Khawarij have been around since the prophets time. Sufis are full of bidca

 

[Tukraq]

Call me when salafi does. Khawarij aint salafis and call them talafi. They accuse them of being under the thumb of the leaders of the country. So the idea people mix khawarij with salafis shows how little people know. I veen to mosque where a salafi sheikh condemned bin ladin and an actual fight broke up because few stood up and say how can you talk ill about sheikh bin ladin. Khawarij have been around since the prophets time. Sufis are full of bidca

Salafis are literal bidca
A newly formed sect for the country of Saudi Arabia so if I want to form a new sect for Somalia is that okay let me guess I just have to claim my new sect follows the sunnah and Quran how can you claim the sect some Sahaba followed is bidca but not one created by your grandpas agemates

 

[Abdalla]

Call me when salafi does. Khawarij aint salafis and call them talafi. They accuse them of being under the thumb of the leaders of the country. So the idea people mix khawarij with salafis shows how little people know. I veen to mosque where a salafi sheikh condemned bin ladin and an actual fight broke up because few stood up and say how can you talk ill about sheikh bin ladin. Khawarij have been around since the prophets time. Sufis are full of bidca

If you fall for that crap then by all means do. But tell me why the salafis were all praising and calling Bin Laden a mujahid when he was fighting the Soviets. But as soon as he fought the gulfs biggest ally he was a khawaarij.

 

[Molotoff]

Hanafi madhab and only hanafi madhab.

 

[Tukraq]

Hanafi madhab and only hanafi madhab.

I follow shafici

 

[GBTarmy]

salafi/wahhabi ideology was spread by Saudi Arabia, Saudi petrodollars and charity orgs took advantage of wartorn and poor people smh. At least sufis arent the ones blowing themselves up and holding somalia hostage for decades. alshabab wants full salafi somalia.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

Everyone who comes with a new matter in this religion is wrong.
Many Sufis (not all) do things that the Prophet and the sahaba didn't do. It ends often with something wich is near to shirk.

Many Salafis (not all) on the other Hand, in many cases, try to interpret quran and Sunna according to their understand, not the understanding of the scholars. It ends often with groups like alkaida and alshabab.

We should follow Quran and Sunna and the sahaba according to our scholars like Imam Shafici, Imam Abu Hanifa, imam Ahmed and imam malik.

 

[East side]

Salafis are literal bidca
A newly formed sect for the country of Saudi Arabia so if I want to form a new sect for Somalia is that okay let me guess I just have to claim my new sect follows the sunnah and Quran how can you claim the sect some Sahaba followed is bidca but not one created by your grandpas agemates

Point to the bidca they make that they say is halal?

If you fall for that crap then by all means do. But tell me why the salafis were all praising and calling Bin Laden a mujahid when he was fighting the Soviets. But as soon as he fought the gulfs biggest ally he was a khawaarij.

If a muslim country is attacked by non muslim its jihad and fighting there makes you mujahid. Just like the people who fought in bosnia. Now there is nothing islamic about killing 3k innocent people like in 9/11. The fact you compare afghanistan war in 80s to 9/11 says how wrong you are. Did you support 9/11?

 

[Tukraq]

Point to the bidca they make that they say is halal?


If a muslim country is attacked by non muslim its jihad and fighting there makes you mujahid. Just like the people who fought in bosnia. Now there is nothing islamic about killing 3k innocent people like in 9/11. The fact you compare afghanistan war in 80s to 9/11 says how wrong you are. Did you support 9/11?

Sahib it’s a low iq sect that interprets the Quran and Sunnah literally which is the bidia considering even the prophet/sahaba/Sunni schools of thought didn’t it literally goes against any point of further interpretation

 

[East side]

Everyone who comes with a new matter in this religion is wrong.
Many Sufis (not all) do things that the Prophet and the sahaba didn't do. It ends often with something wich is near to shirk.

Many Salafis (not all) on the other Hand, in many cases, try to interpret quran and Sunna according to their understand, not the understanding of the scholars. It ends often with groups like alkaida and alshabab.

We should follow Quran and Sunna and the sahaba according to our scholars like Imam Shafici, Imam Abu Hanifa, imam Ahmed and imam malik.

I agree. The name doesnt matter. What you follow matters. Following the quran and the sunnah to the best of our ability is the right path. My point is the word salaf means predecessors. So all you saying is you are following the path of the predecessors of our religion. Thats all.

 

[Abdalla]

If a muslim country is attacked by non muslim its jihad and fighting there makes you mujahid. Just like the people who fought in bosnia. Now there is nothing islamic about killing 3k innocent people like in 9/11. The fact you compare afghanistan war in 80s to 9/11 says how wrong you are. Did you support 9/11?

This tells me that you don't know much about the politics behind Salafism. Bin Laden wasn't called khawaarij after 9/11, he was called khawaarij because he was against American base in Saudi Arabia in 1991 during the gulf war. Americans invaded a Muslim country, Iraq and Bin Laden wanted to fight them just like how he fought Soviets, but Saudi kings hate Saddam and made Salafi sheikhs do fatwas, saying whoever fights the Americans and their allies are khawaarij. That's when Bin Laden and dollar sponsored sheikhs parted.

Know your history

 

[East side]

Sahib it’s a low iq sect that interprets the Quran and Sunnah literally which is the bidia considering even the prophet/sahaba/Sunni schools of thought didn’t it literally goes against any point of further interpretation

Saxib you have half naked women on your av and preaching about they interprate the quran and sunnah laterally? Sound like you saying they too strict because our religion is strict when it comes to right and wrong. Im not the most religious guy. But I seen enough of non religious guy bad mouth salafis for being too strict on right and wrong and call them extremist

 

[GBTarmy]

Is saying Jummah mubarak bid'ah? @East side

 

[East side]

This tells me that you don't know much about the politics behind Salafism. Bin Laden wasn't called khawaarij after 9/11, he was called khawaarij because he was against American base in Saudi Arabia in 1991 during the gulf war. Americans invaded a Muslim country, Iraq and Bin Laden wanted to fight them just like how he fought Soviets, but Saudi kings hate Saddam and made Salafi sheikhs do fatwas, saying whoever fights the Americans and their allies are khawaarij. That's when Bin Laden and dollar sponsored sheikhs parted.

Know your history

I know my history. Kjawarij are people who go up against islamic rulers. Going up against islamic rulers is against our religion. Khawarij killed ali and has always gone against leadership

 

[government]

People with no knowledge about Islam talking about the Deen

 

[Abdalla]

I know my history. Kjawarij are people who go up against islamic rulers. Going up against islamic rulers is against our religion. Khawarij killed ali and has always gone against leadership

Again tell me why Bin Laden was a mujahid for fighting against Soviets, but a khawaarij for fighting against the Americans in the gulf? He was a mujahid in 1989, and a khawaarij in 1990.

Tell me.