The day Afweyne fled Muqdisho

[Itsnotthateasy]

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Ok now exclude everyone according to your own criteria.

The two groups within the Oromo and Amhara, that are fighting are both kuffars that hate Islam.
some of the notable massacres done by Oromo were against Muslim Amharas.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Ok now exclude everyone according to your own criteria.

excluding Murtadeen and musrikeen, of course.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

excluding Murtadeen and musrikeen, of course.

What about tagawit? Why edit that out?

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

What about tagawit? Why edit that out?

way too redunant. I was basically saying Kafir 3 times.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

way too redunant. I was basically saying Kafir 3 times.

You used Murtadeen and musrikeen specifically but you left tagawit out because maybe you have a connection to that. And you absolve kacaanka your own words again.

But you are accusing other groups who massacred of kufr, so whats your real belief system?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

How it started

Niggas entire identity revolves around borders drawn up by gaalos.

How it's going

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

You used Murtadeen and musrikeen specifically but you left tagawit out because maybe you have a connection to that. And you absolve kacaanka your own words again.

except for ICU or the AS Which groupnin Somalia rules by Quran sunnah after the fall of the Kacaanka?

But you are accusing other groups who massacred of kufr, so whats your real belief system?

Which ones? the pagan Oromo cursing Islam or the rebels who sough refuge in Derg ruled Ethiopia?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

except for ICU or the AS Which groupnin Somalia rules by Quran sunnah after the fall of the Kacaanka?

Which ones? the pagan Oromo cursing Islam or the rebels who sough refuge in Derg ruled Ethiopia?

You seem to apply very different criteria to Kacaanka and other groups. But that's for others to decide.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

You seem to apply very different criteria to Kacaanka and other groups. But that's for others to decide.

USC won Kacaanka dead, nigga.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

USC won Kacaanka dead, nigga.

They were justt a tool to dissect your fake beliefs lol.

 

[TheLand]

They were justt a tool to dissect your fake beliefs lol.

Slow ictiraaf news day, sxb?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Slow ictiraaf news day, sxb?

Dude was trying to claim Kacaanka were the taliban or something? It was just interesting belief system.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

They were justt a tool to dissect your fake beliefs lol.

my argument was that the rebels were just worse as MSB.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

my argument was that the rebels were just worse as MSB.

Your argument is that you don't want borders between muslims but you are quick to label non-Somali muslims as Kafir before you label Somalil muslims, so your belief system is probably more likely ethnonationalist islamist which is why you still have absolved Kacaanka.

Why compare Kacaanka to anyone? They are absolute failure by your own terms that you readily apply to others but then when pressed you claim Kacaanka is some kind of Taliban group who rules by Quran and sunnah.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Your argument is that you don't want borders between muslims but you are quick to label non-Somali muslims as Kafir before you label Somalil muslims, so your belief system is probably more likely ethnonationalist islamist which is why you still have absolved Kacaanka.

Which non-Somali muslim did i takfir?

Why compare Kacaanka to anyone? They are absolute failure by your own terms that you readily apply to others but then when pressed

ok but people that ruled after MSB were either just as or even worse than him.

you claim Kacaanka is some kind of Taliban group who rules by Quran.

?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Which non-Somali muslim did i takfir?

ok but people that ruled after MSB were either just as or even worse than him.

?

Again no point doing comparisons, you can't save Kacaan with comparison to what came after if you claim to have a principle. You can't claim a principle and then switch to being a relativist.

except for ICU or the AS Which groupnin Somalia rules by Quran sunnah after the fall of the Kacaanka?

Which ones? the pagan Oromo cursing Islam or the rebels who sough refuge in Derg ruled Ethiopia?

By your own words Kacaanka is like the taliban but we all know how stupid that is and how it sounds.

Anyway no need to go back over it all.

Kacaan was a secular group that ruled through clan supremacy but obviously you were probably a beneficiary of the clan supremacy so you didn't disapprove of it.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Again no point doing comparisons, you can't save Kacaan with comparison to what came after if you claim to have a principle. You can't claim a principle and then switch to being a relativist.

IDC The regime and MSB died 30+.

By your own words Kacaanka is like the taliban but we all know how stupid that is and how it sounds.

Anyway no need to go back over it all.

Kacaan was a secular group that ruled through clan supremacy but obviously you were probably a beneficiary of the clan supremacy so you didn't disapprove of it.

no i meant which group in brought Sharia after the secular Kacaanka?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

IDC The regime and MSB died 30+.

no i meant which group in brought Sharia after the secular Kacaanka?

But again you absolve them and you on balance support their rule and actions, despite them being secular group.

Niggas entire identity revolves around borders drawn up by gaalos.

But you started with principles. Or maybe it was just a cheap blow that you don't really stand by. But you doubled down a few times after that.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

But again you absolve them and you on balance support their rule and actions, despite them being secular group.

If an AS-like group rebelled instead clan based one, the revolt against MSB's regime would be more valid.

But you started with principles. Or maybe it was just a cheap blow that you don't really stand by. But you doubled down a few times after that.

IDC about a defunct dictatorship or colonial borders.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

If an AS-like group rebelled instead clan based one, the revolt against MSB's regime would be more valid.

IDC about a defunct dictatorship or colonial borders.

Statement 1.
You said it would be more valid? According to what principles and criteria? A secular clan based government over ran by clan based opposition... Why do they need to follow a higher system? Here you are masking something

Statement 2.
You never forget him.

after MSB was deposed he became 1 of many tyrannical warlords. The reason why i "absolved" The Kacaanka is because the rebels destroyed the basic building blocks of governance and left it defenseless against Ethiopian aggression.

The oppression of the Kacaanka isn´t an excuse for entire movements to be based on tribalism.
even before the fall of the Kacaanka regime, at least one rebel group cleansed ideological opposition against MSB within their group.

Our generation would've forgotten MSB if the rebels did the bare minimum and built a government, not a good government, not a functional government, A Government.

Now statement 2 answer reveals the hidden bias in statement 1 which is like most filthy pragmatists who hide behind principles you value something you don't want to reveal. That is governance. You value goverenance for yourself, even if it means tyranny for others. You see I don't feel that way. I wish you Italian Somalilanders to make the best possible government you can because I'm not a selfish hypocrite.