The fertility rate of Somali 1.5 and 2. generation Somalis is 2

[AraragiKoyomi]

"For example, in Somalia the fertility rate is about seven. In Norway, Somalian women in generation 1.5 or 2 gave birth to about two children."

Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X2300120X#fig0005
The study is from 2023

I think this finding is true for all one and a half generation (means Somalis who were born in Somalia but grew up in the west) and second generation(those Somalis born in the west) Somalis all across the west.

I think our TFR is below replacement level. We are also the poorest diaspora and our stats does not look good in any measurement. High crime rate, below poverty line, low education rate and we marry more or less the same time as the natives, late 20s to early mid 30s.

What do y'all think?

 

[Yaraye]

"For example, in Somalia the fertility rate is about seven. In Norway, Somalian women in generation 1.5 or 2 gave birth to about two children."
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Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X2300120X#fig0005
The study is from 2023

I think this finding is true for all one and a half generation (means Somalis who were born in Somalia but grew up in the west) and second generation(those Somalis born in the west) Somalis all across the west.

I think our TFR is below replacement level. We are also the poorest diaspora and our stats does not look good in any measurement. High crime rate, below poverty line, low education rate and we marry more or less the same time as the natives, late 20s to early mid 30s.

What do y'all think?

Are you somali?

 

[Gojo Satoru]

Makes sense. The more educated a woman is the less likely she is to have kids. Or at least have kids at a young age and/or have more than 2 kids

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

Are you somali?

Thats a quote from the report

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

Makes sense. The more educated a woman is the less likely she is to have kids. Or at least have kids at a young age and/or have more than 2 kids

Is that a good thing for society. Italy, Germany, Japan, South Korea is ceasing to exist very soon because of that.

If the west has to stabilize their birthrates, they need to bring back the good old nuclear family from the 50s 60s pre second wave feminism.

 

[GeeljireGenius]

Its looking bleak.

 

[Farah717]

It's over for the diaspora, I guarentee in the next 100 years most won't speak Somali and would be mixed with other ajnabis.

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

It's over for the diaspora, I guarentee in the next 100 years most won't speak Somali and would be mixed with other ajnabis.

I think most somalis will move back when things get better back home. Lets hope that oil is gonna get us filthy rich. I believe if thats the case, there will be an exodus out of the west to Somalia

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

It's over for the diaspora, I guarentee in the next 100 years most won't speak Somali and would be mixed with other ajnabis.

I read somewhere Somalis have the lowest rate of marrying out, out of all the other diaspora

 

[Kisame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/s/hVhU3himdB


Lots of people that grew up poor are becoming childfree @AraragiKoyomi

 

[Kisame]

I think most somalis will move back when things get better back home. Lets hope that oil is gonna get us filthy rich. I believe if thats the case, there will be an exodus out of the west to Somalia

Bro for an exodus to happen Somalia would have to become as rich as a gulf Nation.

Most educated diaspora would prefer to raise their children in the west.

 

[El Nino]

Anectodally seems very false, I do not know a single somali women born or raised in the west who does not have atleast 2 kids. Other folks here can also confirm this.

 

[berberaboy66]

Reer Norway are a little more “liberal” than the rest of us + small sample size. It’s not worth extrapolating that data

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

I think most somalis will move back when things get better back home.

They won't. Somalis in the 80s that came here as teenagers and young adults said the same thing: "we will return when Barre is toppled". They lied. They're now retired in the west and only a few go to Somalia for 3 months in the winter.

 

[Saintz]

They won't. Somalis in the 80s that came here as teenagers and young adults said the same thing: "we will return when Barre is toppled". They lied. They're now retired in the west and only a few go to Somalia for 3 months in the winter.

They would only go back home if their QOL would be higher in Somalia than the West. Which would be impossible, since I don't see Somalia ever surpassing 10k in per capita.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Anyways, I am not surprised. There are so few Somali kids around now. Whenever I see millennial Somali parents, they'll have 2 kids max but the most common household is mom and 1 kid. Even western cadaans have more kids than millennial Somalis. There's more to the story than Somali women getting an education. I blame other reasons.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

They would only go back home if their QOL would be higher in Somalia than the West. Which would be impossible, since I don't see Somalia ever surpassing 10k in per capita.

They should have been honest. I would be a rich man if I got a dollar for the amount of "dahaanta iyo baraafa" from community elders as reasons to want to leave but never going through with it.

 

[Nin123]

"For example, in Somalia the fertility rate is about seven. In Norway, Somalian women in generation 1.5 or 2 gave birth to about two children."
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Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X2300120X#fig0005
The study is from 2023

I think this finding is true for all one and a half generation (means Somalis who were born in Somalia but grew up in the west) and second generation(those Somalis born in the west) Somalis all across the west.

I think our TFR is below replacement level. We are also the poorest diaspora and our stats does not look good in any measurement. High crime rate, below poverty line, low education rate and we marry more or less the same time as the natives, late 20s to early mid 30s.

What do y'all think?

If your wife can’t have more than 5 children then what’s the point of staying together? Divorce her ass asap.

 

[Nin123]

Makes sense. The more educated a woman is the less likely she is to have kids. Or at least have kids at a young age and/or have more than 2 kids

Why is that?

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

Bro for an exodus to happen Somalia would have to become as rich as a gulf Nation.

Most educated diaspora would prefer to raise their children in the west.

The lowest estimation I have heard for oil in Somalia is 30 billion and the highest is 110 billion barrels of oil. 30 billion barrel is 2 trillion usd, my lowest estimate if a barrel cost 60 usd. Thats enough to sustain Somalia for half a century if we spend 30 billion usd a year. We eating good sxb. We just need to lock in.