The Gaal of Somalia [hint: they weren't Oromo]

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

why would abdi iley help karanle wasn't he the one who displaced them in libaan and called them oromo so ogaden can take their land

I read it somewhere. Karanle where massacred by Oromos. Horrible details

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

I read it somewhere. Karanle where massacred by Oromos. Horrible details

Bro karanle and bale Oromos are cool it’s hararghe oromos right

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

Bro karanle and bale Oromos are cool it’s hararghe oromos right

The leader of Karanle fled to Abdi Iley and his daughter was raped. This is what I read. I been reading up on this story

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

The leader of Karanle fled to Abdi Iley and his daughter was raped. This is what I read. I been reading up on this story

damn thats sad wallahi was it in babile or bale

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

damn thats sad wallahi was it in babile or bale

Probably babile its likely babile, Oromo militias has been ruthlessly pushing Somalis. I think more than 570 kilil have been annexed by Oromia. This is the work of Lemme Magersa and Abiy Ahmed. You have to understand Abiy Ahmed and Lemma Magersa are ethno nationalist Oromo who support an United Ethiopia. Jawar Mohammed is an Ethnonationalist who supports an Independent Oromia. Both hate Somalis to the core, both want to see Somalis genocided and eliminated. Harrari population was much greater in the 18th century than now. Now they have been reduced to 100k. You understand? Most Oromo wether muslim or not support Oromumma. Look at history and understand who spearheaded the Muslim kingdoms. It was always Somalis. Oromos recently converted to islam. Some converted in the 16th century but where forced converted to Christianity. The only way forward for the 50 million Muslims in East Africa is to be spearheaded by Somalis. First of all Siad Barre was a secularist communist, but he still used Oromos(OLF) but then double crossed them cause he had plans on taking Bale mountains(strategically important to Somalis due to both our rivers originating their). And Oromos wouldnt allow it. Fun fact he considered Oromos to be people who have yet to regain an identity and could be somalirized, true actually. Oromo sense of identity is only very recent. When Oromos converted to Islam, they were somalirized, this is why there bunch of oromo subclans who consider themselves to be part of Rahanweyn.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

Probably babile its likely babile, Oromo militias has been ruthlessly pushing Somalis. I think more than 570 kilil have been annexed by Oromia. This is the work of Lemme Magersa and Abiy Ahmed. You have to understand Abiy Ahmed and Lemma Magersa are ethno nationalist Oromo who support an United Ethiopia. Jawar Mohammed is an Ethnonationalist who supports an Independent Oromia. Both hate Somalis to the core, both want to see Somalis genocided and eliminated. Harrari population was much greater in the 18th century than now. Now they have been reduced to 100k. You understand? Most Oromo wether muslim or not support Oromumma. Look at history and understand who spearheaded the Muslim kingdoms. It was always Somalis. Oromos recently converted to islam. Some converted in the 16th century but where forced converted to Christianity. The only way forward for the 50 million Muslims in East Africa is to be spearheaded by Somalis. First of all Siad Barre was a secularist communist, but he still used Oromos(OLF) but then double crossed them cause he had plans on taking Bale mountains(strategically important to Somalis due to both our rivers originating their). And Oromos wouldnt allow it. Fun fact he considered Oromos to be people who have yet to regain an identity and could be somalirized, true actually. Oromo sense of identity is only very recent. When Oromos converted to Islam, they were somalirized, this is why there bunch of oromo subclans who consider themselves to be part of Rahanweyn.

can you tell me the oromo clans who joined rahanweyne clans i know a section of my clan raayituu joined RX due to them converting a couple hundred years ago their known as Mando Garwaale. My uncles were in the somali abbo Led by waqo gutu and they helped liberate the somali region with said barre

 

[AfranQallo]

Well they do that in Oromia, majority of Oromos and everyone who borders Somalis are Muslim. They follow same madhab too yet they slaughter Somalis civilians, children and women. This is OLA, and other militias who may be Muslim but blinded by Ethno-nationalism

OLA does not operate in eastern Oromia. There are no conflicts right now around the border, and when there was one, it was by the same ruling EPRDF. The TPLF were in charge and orchestrated the Somali Liyu into Oromia and Oromo Liyu to Somalis fighting.
And if we look closely at the fighting in these Bordering areas, 90 percent of the conflicts are Oromo speak Somalis vs Somali speaking Somalis.

The conflicts in Dire Dawa in 2018 etc were Gurgura vs Issa, yet Somalis push for an Oromo vs Somali conflict.

Pick and choose whether you want to claim these clans as Somali or Oromo and stick with it. Blaming and pointing fingers is dangerous. It could cause and larger problem for innocent civilians on both sides of the border.

 

[reer]

OLA does not operate in eastern Oromia. There are no conflicts right now around the border, and when there was one, it was by the same ruling EPRDF. The TPLF were in charge and orchestrated the Somali Liyu into Oromia and Oromo Liyu to Somalis fighting.
And if we look closely at the fighting in these Bordering areas, 90 percent of the conflicts are Oromo speak Somalis vs Somali speaking Somalis.

The conflicts in Dire Dawa in 2018 etc were Gurgura vs Issa, yet Somalis push for an Oromo vs Somali conflict.

Pick and choose whether you want to claim these clans as Somali or Oromo and stick with it. Blaming and pointing fingers is dangerous. It could cause and larger problem for innocent civilians on both sides of the border.

ola fought reer hassan sub clan of the marehan clan. both ola and liyuu fought between dekasuftu and negele.

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

ola fought reer hassan sub clan of the marehan clan. both ola and liyuu fought between dekasuftu and negele.

Who won

 

[Farahslayer]

Poor understanding of the Somali language.

Gaal- in Gaaljecel and Abgaal is old Somali for camel.

Gaalkacyo- is Gaalo as in disbeliever.

This isn’t up for debate. Oromos speak oromo language so don’t argue on linguistics of the Somali language and spread misinformation

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

OLA does not operate in eastern Oromia. There are no conflicts right now around the border, and when there was one, it was by the same ruling EPRDF. The TPLF were in charge and orchestrated the Somali Liyu into Oromia and Oromo Liyu to Somalis fighting.
And if we look closely at the fighting in these Bordering areas, 90 percent of the conflicts are Oromo speak Somalis vs Somali speaking Somalis.

The conflicts in Dire Dawa in 2018 etc were Gurgura vs Issa, yet Somalis push for an Oromo vs Somali conflict.

Pick and choose whether you want to claim these clans as Somali or Oromo and stick with it. Blaming and pointing fingers is dangerous. It could cause and larger problem for innocent civilians on both sides of the border.

The fact that there are Oromo speaking Somalis is prove that you are nothing but evil genociders and ethnic cleansers. Gurgura, Akisho, Jaarso, and so many were forcibly assimilated. They are Dir not uga buga Oromos. In sha Allah they will be somalirized and thus civilized again. They will in sha Allah abandon that primitive language that has less vocabulary than a toddler

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

can you tell me the oromo clans who joined rahanweyne clans i know a section of my clan raayituu joined RX due to them converting a couple hundred years ago their known as Mando Garwaale. My uncles were in the somali abbo Led by waqo gutu and they helped liberate the somali region with said barre

Ma sha Allah brother. How about it, Imma give you my future daughter in marriage. You will inherit my abtirsi. I am sure its halal for an assimilated Somali to regain back his abtirsi. I am Hawiye. Hawiye are the purest Somali. I am Habar Gidir, my clan never mixed with anyone except Somalis. All my great grandparents lived deep in Somaliweyn far away from other ethnic groups.

 

[AfranQallo]

The fact that there are Oromo speaking Somalis is prove that you are nothing but evil genociders and ethnic cleansers. Gurgura, Akisho, Jaarso, and so many were forcibly assimilated. They are Dir not uga buga Oromos. In sha Allah they will be somalirized and thus civilized again. They will in sha Allah abandon that primitive language that has less vocabulary than a toddler

You really are speaking out of your ass. There are different reasons people assimilated. Protection, land, ruling etc were reason people chose to become Oromo in the past, and we are talking 100s of years ago.

The Gurgura are Somali, we know. And a lot of them speak Somali but no one forced them to be Oromo. They just have a pact with my clan the Noole. We marry from one another and live peacefully in our regions.

Calling our language primitive is ironic as our language come from the same language family and have a lot in common. It may sound different when apple but vocabulary and grammar etc is closer then you’d think.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

You really are speaking out of your ass. There are different reasons people assimilated. Protection, land, ruling etc were reason people chose to become Oromo in the past, and we are talking 100s of years ago.

The Gurgura are Somali, we know. And a lot of them speak Somali but no one forced them to be Oromo. They just have a pact with my clan the Noole. We marry from one another and live peacefully in our regions.

Calling our language primitive is ironic as our language come from the same language family and have a lot in common. It may sound different when apple but vocabulary and grammar etc is closer then you’d think.

1 single question. Do you love christian oromos more than Somalis? (I have no reason to say Muslim somalis cause we all Muslims, you cannot be Non Muslim and Somali, then you are either honorary habashi or Oromo).

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

You really are speaking out of your ass. There are different reasons people assimilated. Protection, land, ruling etc were reason people chose to become Oromo in the past, and we are talking 100s of years ago.

The Gurgura are Somali, we know. And a lot of them speak Somali but no one forced them to be Oromo. They just have a pact with my clan the Noole. We marry from one another and live peacefully in our regions.

Calling our language primitive is ironic as our language come from the same language family and have a lot in common. It may sound different when apple but vocabulary and grammar etc is closer then you’d think.

Everyone in Hararghe are Somali, Harla, Harari who speak the language of Boronas. As for Bale they are Sidamo, Hadiya or Somali who speak Borona language.

 

[AfranQallo]

1 single question. Do you love christian oromos more than Somalis? (I have no reason to say Muslim somalis cause we all Muslims, you cannot be Non Muslim and Somali, then you are either honorary habashi or Oromo).

No because I’m from eastern Oromia and have more in common with neighbouring Somalis then Western Oromos.

But I have one main thing in common with other Oromos which is the hate for the Ethiopian state and our language and culture.

If it meant anything, Islam come first before being Oromo or anything else.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

No because I’m from eastern Oromia and have more in common with neighbouring Somalis then Western Oromos.

But I have one main thing in common with other Oromos which is the hate for the Ethiopian state and our language and culture.

If it meant anything, Islam come first before being Oromo or anything else.

Good, would you guys be so kind not dam the Juba river? damming the source of our rivers is an act of aggression

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

No because I’m from eastern Oromia and have more in common with neighbouring Somalis then Western Oromos.

But I have one main thing in common with other Oromos which is the hate for the Ethiopian state and our language and culture.

If it meant anything, Islam come first before being Oromo or anything else.

I dont want Somalis to be invovled in any war for the last 50 years. Those 50 years will be spent on making our country number 1 in any industry. We will be domestically produced Semiconductors and compete with Intel and TSMC.

 

[AfranQallo]

Good, would you guys be so kind not dam the Juba river? damming the source of our rivers is an act of aggression

You’re talking to the wrong person. The only people with that power is Abiy and his goons.

Believe it or not, we hate them more than anyone else.

 

[GemState]

No because I’m from eastern Oromia and have more in common with neighbouring Somalis then Western Oromos.

But I have one main thing in common with other Oromos which is the hate for the Ethiopian state and our language and culture.

If it meant anything, Islam come first before being Oromo or anything else.

Once Ethiopia becomes Muslim-majority in 8-9 years, would you be hostile to the existence of an Ethiopian state? Of course, as long as it democratizes and ethnic federalism is improved on.

I think Afar, Somali, Oromo, Harari, etc can find common ground in those conditions. The dismantling of Amharic throughout the country due to the TPLF and the Amhara on the cusp losing their majority in Addis & the rest of urban Oromia means that Ethiopia is a blank-slate currently.