Cheap and clean did not come from Somali fobs coming to the West. It's an English term and foreign created.
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The ORIGIN of internet based Somali Gender Wars
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Somali women were never forbidden from marrying ajanabis in somalia. Caucasian Muslims are actually seen as superior by reer magaal somalis. Today, Yemeni and syrian refugees can easily get wives back home. When it comes to reer diasporas, the rate for somalis who marry out has remained relatively low.
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That's not true. Somalia was not a safe zone for passport bros and sex tourists. In fact, I posted a story about this once, from the days when Somalia was peaceful:
"Somalis back home, do seem to be nicer to each other, but I do wonder, because we are not privy to their inner-culture, maybe the guys also shame the girls they party with."
Some of the guys definitely judge. I do think a decent amount aren't as religious than we expect them to be since they grew up back home. These guys sometimes look more liberal than diaspora sometimes.
I had a fob cousin that came to america a in 2012. He stayed at my crib for awhile and I ended up having to share my room with him. He use to be on Whatsapp all day chatting with xalimos constantly. I was honestly shocked cause at the time I was still a teen and wasn't even talking to chicks. Before I met him I honestly didn't know any Muslim that was dating and flirting with chicks around my age. It seemed so taboo to me honestly.
The lack of a respected dating culture here in the diaspora has really pushed out the non practicing somalis in our community. We have a bunch of Farahs and xalimos that don't date at all.
Shukansi is very normal back home and marriage is like dating, so you'll see people in their 20s with 2 or even 3 ex-spouses!
I think Somalis became more religious in the diaspora and then they started living among other Muslim ethnic groups and new behaviours developed. Combine that with western toxicity, insecure men, needing to brag about 'body count' and other things, and we have a very toxic brew.
You're right, non-practicing Somalis have definitely been pushed to the periphery of the community, especially the women. Because a lot of guys like to do a rebrand, when it's time to settle down.
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My parents and their siblings are part of this generation you and @๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
are talking about. I sometimes wonder how most of these 40-50 year old somalis that came to the west in their teens turned out.
Especially when it comes to marriage. Almost all of these somalis at the time were living in the ghetto. Were most of the men financially stable enough to get married in their 20?
What percentage of these somalis do you think actually earned a college degree?
In my family I have 2 aunt's and 3 uncles from this group that earned degrees.
Majority of my family members married somalis as well but I did have a few aunts and uncles with half madow kids.
More non practicing somalis will start to show up. Somalis can't just continue ignoring them. Especially if they hate seeing these somalis marry out.
Gen X diaspora seems to have been a lot more comfortable around each other than the succeeding ones if I look at this video from the mid 90s. I also never picked up any degrading stereotypes from my older male relatives, in fact it was the opposite, they would embellish Somali women. All of them were raised in a Somalia where gender relations were a lot more closer and dynamic than the current situation where people can base their entire opinion on the opposite gender from social media takes or trolls.
The gender war as we know it definitely started in the Twitter era and flourished with TikTok. I reckon in a decade, weโll be on the same level as the other groups where it seeps into real life.
The gender war as we know it definitely started in the Twitter era and flourished with TikTok. I reckon in a decade, weโll be on the same level as the other groups where it seeps into real life.
I would say it depends. My parents are boomers and educated abroad before Somalia collapsed. I'm a western born millennial myself. I prefaced outmarriage was rare and still not as common. However, I know Somalis and their sensationalism. They blow things out of proportion.
Anyway, those showing up in the 90s as teens and young adults (Gen Xers ) had a rougher transition. I think. Relative to millennials given state collapse and perhaps disruptions to education before their arrival. As this might have meant time spent out of schooling. Those who could take advantage of educational opportunities probably adjusted better and ended up better off financially.
When it comes to Gen X. I would say those born 1965- 1976 had the hardest time. Relative to those born 1977-1980 (aka Xennials on the cusp). Reason being adaption to the diaspora is easier when younger. That is why transitioning for millenials (born 1981-1996) was smoother.
Man thank you for posting that vid!! Crazy to think the people in the video are in theyr 50-60s now wow
Gender wars grew in the post 2010 era of pervasive social media i.e Twitter. It tends to focus on shock jockeys. Especially now that it is called X and has a new owner. The culture of Twitter is unhealthy.
Absolutely this, all the problems we see online is
due to extreme attention seeking genuinely mentally compromised idiots who live life through social media.
Internet unfortunately gives these people a voice and Im sorry to say, dadkeena are more attracted to controversy then for example westerners (not that they arent either).
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yes.
How are we supposed to stop it when its the FOB's using it the most
We should all call out gender-based slurs when we see it. Even if fobs do it.
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