The origin of the name Somali

[Suldaanka]

Hawiye is the grandson of Samaale and Somalia is derived from Samaale the same way Israel is derived from Israa'il. Also Ahmed Gurey was Karanle Hawiye and they still live in the Galbeed region

No way he was karanle.
Karanle is a small brother of muursade.
Ahmed Gurey was Darood.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

No way he was karanle.
Karanle is a small brother of muursade.
Ahmed Gurey was Darood.

he was jidwaq

nuuradeen was his sisters son, nuraaden was marehan

 

[Samaalic Era]

No way he was karanle.
Karanle is a small brother of muursade.
Ahmed Gurey was Darood.

http://www.abtirsi.com/view.php?person=5214

 

[James Dahl]

I think "Somali" was originally not a tribal name but an early word for of "Geeljire", and only rural pastoral tribes were called Somali, urban Somali clans are not referred to as such historically as that was not their occupation. Later on it took on a more general meaning.

 

[Grant]

I think "Somali" was originally not a tribal name but an early word for of "Geeljire", and only rural pastoral tribes were called Somali, urban Somali clans are not referred to as such historically as that was not their occupation. Later on it took on a more general meaning.

I also think "Somali" ("Samaale") is is an occupational name and I agree with your main point, but I think it is older than "geeljire". "Sac maal" meams to milk a cow, and cow milking long preceded camel milking. Look at Laas Geel.

 

[Apollo]

Darod was not a Yemeni. This is the biggest scam in Somali history.

 

[Suldaanka]

Darod was not a Yemeni. This is the biggest scam in Somali history.

Darood Al Jabarti al hadromoat

 

[Apollo]

Darood Al Jabarti al hadromoat

With the same haplogroup as the Habar Awal, Hawiye and other Somalis, lmao. What a joke.

Who wants to be of Yemeni descent anyway? Yuck.

 

[Suldaanka]

With the same haplogroup as the Habar Awal, Hawiye and other Somalis, lmao. What a joke.

Who wants to be of Yemeni descent anyway? Yuck.

War dadka ha yassin.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Darod was not a Yemeni. This is the biggest scam in Somali history.

Do you think the founder of the Darod clan existed?

 

[Apollo]

Do you think the founder of the Darod clan existed?

Darod Abtirsis skip generations, he is much older than people think and he was not Arab but an ethnic Somali man.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Darod Abtirsis skip generations, he is much older than people think and he was not Arab but an ethnic Somali man.

Do you have any source for this or is this just your theory?

 

[Apollo]

Do you have any source for this or is this just your theory?

A bazillion Darods have done Y-Chromosome analyses/tests.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Do you have any source for this or is this just your theory?

Its true. All Somali clans have skipped a minor figure and sometimes even more. The ones that are mentioned are the major ones

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

A bazillion Darods have done Y-Chromosome tests.

I know the vast majority of Darods carry the native E1b1b paternal lineage.

Are the Eritrean Jebertis frauds as well?

 

[Apollo]

I know the vast majority of Darods carry the native E1b1b paternal lineage.

Are the Eritrean Jebertis frauds as well?

I have never seen genetic results of Eritrean Jebertis. However, I sincerely doubt they are paternally related to Somali Darods. The whole Yemeni / al-Jabarti connection was made up wholesale recently to link up and bootyclap for the Banu Hashim.

 

[roble]

when these religious scholars came(jeberti,,isak etc) they started an islamic school and gave the children arab names and told thm they were the muslim fathers.so everyone start the lineage right there.
DNA contradicts that arab BS and rightfully so, why dont we have J.

 

[Apollo]

when these religious scholars came(jeberti,,isak etc) they started an islamic school and gave the children arab names and told thm they were the muslim fathers.so everyone start the lineage right there.
DNA contradicts that arab BS and rightfully so, why dont we have J.

There are some Arabian tribes with E1b1b, but it's not even their variants, Darods have the exact same subclade as all other Somalis. This Banu Hashim nonsense is one giant hoax.

 

[roble]

There are some Arabian tribes with E1b1b, but it's not even their variants, Darods have the exact same subclade as all other Somalis. This Banu Hashim nonsense is one giant hoax.

yes true somali lineage hijacked last 1500yrs. Big up cushites

 

[James Dahl]

If there was a Daarood he lived at least 40 generations ago, the length of the longest lineages, which places him between 1200 to 1300 years ago, or between 700 and 800 CE.

However the first Tanade Boqor is supposedly his grandson, which isn't likely in my opinion since how on earth can you have a kingdom when the entire clan population would have only been maybe a dozen people by that point.

Personally I think the clans are quite ancient, and that Daarood and the Sagaalka Samaale were all established already as clans by 700 CE, but there were no lineages yet, so the lineages started around the arrival of Islam starting with the leaders of the clans, with subject clans over time being adopted into the main branches.

The process of "lineageization" didn't happen at the same time but was slowly established so not all lineages are the same length, those that began later are shorter, not only because of lineage skipping but because of later starts.