The Pakistani grooming scandal is not our business or issue

When rightwing media does the same to our community even going as far as falsely accusing perpetrators of being Somali when they’re not, you don’t see other Muslim groups calling this out. Often, they join in with the hate train instead of questioning the biased reporting and giving us the benefit of the doubt.

So, while I get your point that anti immigrant cadaans will smear immigrants regardless, immigrant groups are happy to throw others under the bus just to divert attention away from their specific group. Even when Muslim. So, instead of getting involved on either side, I suggest our people mind their own business.
I mean we are doing the same right now, but I understand what you mean and I agree.

We argue whether we identify as Somali or Muslim first - I say we can individually identify as a Muslim, and identify as Somali collectively.
 
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look at this 😂 definitely an ajanabi troll

He has me blocked, so i can't even see his posts unless someones quotes it. What a chicken.

I was correcting him in a different thread some time ago where he was saying Somalis are known to be rude and i said it was the total opposite, we have a reputation of being friendly , generous and kind and very sociable and showed him sources.

I not only live around Somalis i have traveled to many Somali inhabited areas. The reception has always been good.

We are so unlike Indians, who swarm random white people when they visit them and stand around starring at them.

There is a white travel vlogger who visited both India/Pakistan and Somalia got totally separate treatment, nobody stared at him and people generally payed him no mind.


You can hear it also from African who generally live around Somalis and any time people interview them, they say that we are friendly people and generous.

''Somalis are good people, they are generous, they are friendly and they know how to stay with visitors, there are only few who are Hostile - Many Somalis are Good''


It's just the general reputation we have:

This from a foreign British business group that has been operating in Somalia for years.

''Somalis are extremely open, friendly and hospitable. Strangers become friends before they become acquaintances. Returning the warmth and friendliness is an excellent way to gain trust.''

If acting like a rude public hooligan was a Somali thing you would have the entire internet literred with examples and reports, not just this 1 Johnny Somali habesha dude. You would also have many examples of Somalis tourits just being rude and locals complaining about like the way you see with the Chinese


And contrary to @idc we are not actually known to be rapist at all. The UK stats that includes Somalia among other nationalities are quite possibly fake because they are using Somali passport holders which in most cases are fake assylum seeking Ethiopian/Africans, . New Somali migrants don't enter the UK with a Somali passport.
As far as arrests goes, when it comes to Somalis it can be deeply inflated and false because you have people with names like ''Risman Naitsoka'' and ''Gabre Wounouse'' recorded as Somali migrant sexual offenders. Don't know what that former name is but its clearly not Somali and Gebre is Ethiopian/Habesha name.
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You can also see that they are not Somali from the mugshots of them.
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This might be highly specific to the UK and its not just news headlines. @X29 reached out to report them and they gave him this response , so they are recorded in court and by the police as Somali.
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They are basically entering the UK on false identities and Immigration agencies and the Home Office aren't even doing backround checks. There might be a bunch of them recorded as ''Somali'' but really aren't in actuality.

The same ones pass themselves off as Eritreans . I suspect most of those fake assylum seekers are criminals and rejects from in their real countries or are running from the law


and in others European countries we are extremely underrepresented in sexual offenses
Also it doesn't make sense to use stats in Norway to fuel Elon Musk's sexual offender muslim grooming gang immigrant hate train because they say Somalis are under-represented in sexual offenses:
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It also don't reflect any thing to do with lack of integration or hyper violent minority, or overrepresentation in particular. They are comparing the Somali immigrant population that are mainly made up of youth with other populations that are mainly made up of adults. When we know that youth in any population commit more crime than older adults, if you adjust for age and location Somali's and immigrants are not actually over represented in crime.
 
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I don't believe it's a Pakistani specific problem, i think it's a UK wide urban problem. Pakistanis have a wide diaspora pool , if it was something they specifically engaged in for cultural reasons you will hear about it everywhere , even in the US. I could be a bit wrong though as i am not exactly the most well versed on their cultural peculiarities , but i feel i am right on this after reading reports:


The media and the far right is using them stoke anti-Muslim immigrant xenophobia. They don't care about what nationality they are from. Only that they are Muslim and that's why they are singling them out, so it doesn't matter as we become implicated either way, whether we feel it is our business or not.
 
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I don't believe it's a Pakistani specific problem, i think it's a UK wide urban problem. Pakistanis have a wide diaspora pool , if it was something they specifically engaged in for cultural reasons you will hear about it everywhere , even in the US. I could be a bit wrong though as i am not exactly the most well versed on their cultural peculiarities , but i feel i am right on this after reading reports:


The media and the far right is using them stoke anti-Muslim immigrant xenophobia. They don't care about what nationality they are from. Only that they are Muslim and that's why they are singling them out, so it doesn't matter as we become implicated either way, whether we feel it is our business or not.
While true you don't really hear anything bad from Indians and Pakistanis here in the states, the fact remains that the stuff they do in the UK they do in their respective homelands x100. It's a cultural problem. I do think the ones in the UK are terrible as someone brought up the pregnant woman post from last year. There's nothing any of us can do about the mad right wingers, while it's mislabeled hate they have a ground to argue against these barbarians and their sickly culture.
 
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