The Reality Of What They Call The Ottoman Khilāfah [Ottoman Empire]

[Hamzarashid]

Br

this is part of how I became convinced that anti-"Wahhabism" is nonsense... all their arguments fall apart under correct examination.

(btw I'm sorry there's that disgusting pic.... I didn't mean to include that)

Saudi Arabia was part of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years. In 1915, the British Empire signed the treaty of Darin with Abdulaziz Al Saud. The treaty established Saudi Arabia as a British protectorate.

 

[Omar del Sur]

The Ottomans added many lands to Dar Al-Islam, including Constantinople. They struck fear into the hearts of kuffar from Lisbon to Moscow. They helped defend many Muslim lands from kuffar colonisation, such as Ajuuraan, Adal, Aceh, Algeria, Libya, and the Dervish State. They defended Sunnis in Iraq from the Safawi menace. When they were in power, the Ummah was respected and feared across the globe.

How much lands have the Saudis and Wahhabists added to Dar Al-Islam? How many Muslim lands have they defended? How much respect and prestige have they brought to the Ummah's name?

How much lands have the Saudis and Wahhabists added to Dar Al-Islam?

you too?? Disappointed.

anyways, grave worshippers can conquer the whole world and colonize the moon, I am not supporting shirk. Islam didn't tell us to go around spreading grave worship and saint worship. we should be propagating tawheed. I will take conquering one inch of land and worshipping Allah alone over conquering the whole world and committing shirk. the whole Quran tawheed. the whole basis of Islam is tawheed.

every single prophet was sent to call to tawheed. it is not some small, minor detail.

 

[HiraanBorn]

also btw that is a wrong interpretation of that hadith

I have heard that Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani (Rahimahullah) interpreted that hadith mentioning Najd as actually meaning Iraq.

 

[attash]

you too?? Disappointed.

anyways, grave worshippers can conquer the whole world and colonize the moon, I am not supporting shirk. Islam didn't tell us to go around spreading grave worship and saint worship. we should be propagating tawheed. I will take conquering one inch of land and worshipping Allah alone over conquering the whole world and committing shirk. the whole Quran tawheed. the whole basis of Islam is tawheed.

every single prophet was sent to call to tawheed. it is not some small, minor detail.

So are you saying the Ottomans were kuffar? I don't think the Ottomans were perfect Muslims, but they were still Muslims, which means their accomplishments are a part of the Ummah's history. The Muslim world was in a better state with them in power than afterwards.

 

[niggaibnh]

Banu Umayyad and banu Abbasid was the only great caliph I could say.

What destroyed both empire is concubines
Ottoman wasn’t great compare to them

 

[Omar del Sur]

Br
Saudi Arabia was part of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years. In 1915, the British Empire signed the treaty of Darin with Abdulaziz Al Saud. The treaty established Saudi Arabia as a British protectorate.

 

[niggaibnh]

Irrelevant to this convo topic
You said u was Mexican/Spanish/or Latino (idk)
What made u come into this Somali site ?

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

Arabs are pathetic tbh the Ottomans has ruled Saudi Arabia more than any Arab Leaders that has existed kkkk

 

[Omar del Sur]

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Arabs are pathetic tbh the Ottomans has ruled Saudi Arabia more than any Arab Leaders that has existed kkkk

"ruled parts of Saudi"

parts of what is today Saudi

 

[Omar del Sur]

Irrelevant to this convo topic
You said u was Mexican/Spanish/or Latino (idk)
What made u come into this Somali site ?

I think I was reading about the Ogaden war.

 

[Hamzarashid]

If you're a true Somali, you would've more appreciation and love towards the Ottoman Empire as they have been helping Somalia since the dawn of time, wallah there are no people I love more than Turks. Even today, Turkey is among the few countries that are helping Somalia without any ulterior motive. When the British arrived in the Middle East they asked the Arabs, how could you have an outsider controlling your lands, how could you let non-Arabs control you. Your prophet was an Arab and your Quran is written in Arabic. What eventually happened was their arrogance and pride festered to the point they revolted against the Khalifa and allied themselves with the British. Now look at what the West did to Muslim countries if it was the USA and the petrodollar which Saudi Arab and the gulf states benefited from the destruction of Muslim countries. Look at the Iraq War it was solely based on oil.

 

[niggaibnh]

I think I was reading about the Ogaden war.

Interesting but this site used to be serious and now it’s full of trolls.
Do you live close with Somalis hence why u wanted to learn their history or it was just randomly

 

[Dalac Bilaash]

"ruled parts of Saudi"

parts of what is today Saudi

Mecca and Medina, the two most significant cities in Saudi Arabia at the time, have been under their domination for 400 years. The rest of the country was made up only of bedouns who herd camels in empty deserts at that time.

 

[Omar del Sur]

So are you saying the Ottomans were kuffar? I don't think the Ottomans were perfect Muslims, but they were still Muslims, which means their accomplishments are a part of the Ummah's history. The Muslim world was in a better state with them in power than afterwards.

in what scenario can a person worshipping graves and praying to saints be in a better state than someone who worships Allah alone without any partners?

wallahi a homeless person who worships Allah alone is better off than a rich person who associates partners with Allah.

 

[niggaibnh]

If you're a true Somali, you would've more appreciation and love towards the Ottoman Empire as they have been helping Somalia since the dawn of time, wallah there are no people I love more than Turks. Even today, Turkey is among the few countries that are helping Somalia without any ulterior motive. When the British arrived in the Middle East they asked the Arabs, how could you have an outsider controlling your lands, how could you let non-Arabs control you. Your prophet was an Arab and your Quran is written in Arabic. What eventually happened was their arrogance and pride festered to the point they revolted against the Khalifa and allied themselves with the British. Now look at what the West did to Muslim countries if it was the USA and the petrodollar which Saudi Arab and the gulf states benefited from the destruction of Muslim countries. Look at the Iraq War it was solely based on oil.

Ottoman supported us but you have to remember what was they doing during Middle East .
The is a reason people in Middle East revolved and supported British and French over ottoman because they’ve made a promise that saudi was going to get their own state and same with Syria etc.

Ottoman discrimination toward Middle Eastern destroyed them badly

The same way banu Umayyad discriminated ethics which ended up destroying the empire

 

[niggaibnh]

Mecca and Medina, the two most significant cities in Saudi Arabia at the time, have been under their domination for 400 years. The rest of the country was made up only of bedouns who herd camels in empty deserts at that time.

Rashidun, Umayyad until Abbasid
It was more then 400 years bro
Thanks to the arab
The Turks got power cuz of them

 

[Hamzarashid]

Ottoman supported us but you have to remember what was they doing during Middle East .
The is a reason people in Middle East revolved and supported British and French over ottoman because they’ve made a promise that saudi was going to get their own state and same with Syria etc.

Ottoman discrimination toward Middle Eastern destroyed them badly

The same way banu Umayyad discriminated ethics which ended up destroying the empire

It seem you support nationalism over the Khalifa

Ottoman supported us but you have to remember what was they doing during Middle East .
The is a reason people in Middle East revolved and supported British and French over ottoman because they’ve made a promise that saudi was going to get their own state and same with Syria etc.

Ottoman discrimination toward Middle Eastern destroyed them badly

The same way banu Umayyad discriminated ethics which ended up destroying the empire

It seems to me you support nationalism over the Khalifa you just stated my point that the Arabs couldn't stand non arab control them.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Interesting but this site used to be serious and now it’s full of trolls.
Do you live close with Somalis hence why u wanted to learn their history or it was just randomly

you know what is really funny. only one time have I ever actually met a Somali in real life. I sort of became aware of Somalis because I used to be on a conspiracy forum before I was on here and one of the posters was Somali and we got along with each other.

I was reading about the Ogaden war because of Cuba. I am somewhat of a Cubaologist.

I don't really know much about Somalia or Somali history. But I do know this. Someone on here mentioned the Mad Mullah to me and so I wanted to know what he was talking about. so I did watch a video on the Mad Mullah and now I am a huge Mad Mullah fan. I definitely want to learn more about the Mad Mullah.

another I want to mention that I think is really important is I think it's really important not to... form conclusions about Somalis based on social media. I think Somalis have really interesting viewpoints and I do think Somalis are intelligent people... but I also think it's really important to bear in mind that people on social media are not necessarily reflective of what a given community is like in real life. so even though I've talked with Somalis on social media, I wouldn't want to really make any assumptions about Somalis in real life... except I do think Somalis are particularly intelligent.

 

[niggaibnh]

It seem you support nationalism over the Khalifa
It seems to me you support nationalism over the Khalifa you just stated my point that the Arabs couldn't stand non arab control them.

I don’t support nationalism but if the Ottoman discriminated Somalia best believe I will be fighting war against them so I could establish Somalia under our control.

You do know what happened to ottoman is the same thing happened to banu ummayyad .
Are you going to fight for banu ummayad case ? I don’t want to hear how racist or ummayyad supremacy they’re

 

[Hamzarashid]

you know what is really funny. only one time have I ever actually met a Somali in real life. I sort of became aware of Somalis because I used to be on a conspiracy forum before I was on here and one of the posters was Somali and we got along with each other.

I was reading about the Ogaden war because of Cuba. I am somewhat of a Cubaologist.

I don't really know much about Somalia or Somali history. But I do know this. Someone on here mentioned the Mad Mullah to me and so I wanted to know what he was talking about. so I did watch a video on the Mad Mullah and now I am a huge Mad Mullah fan. I definitely want to learn more about the Mad Mullah.

Omar are you not somali you said you were Mexican do mean nationality if yes what is your ethnicity