The Soviet Union was probably the best civilization.

[Idilinaa]

Where do you and others find these books btw? Interesting read.

Sorry didn't see this question.

Sometimes they post them on social media accounts that others link to this sites. Other times i find some stuff on https://www.marxists.org/subject/somalia/index.htm

 

[Zak12]

Siyaad Barre encouraged free trade and private investment. In 1972 the government built a commercial mall with over 100 shops to bolster free trade in the country

. In 1976 Siyaad Barre stated the following in a speech regarding private investment.

"We have no new nationalizations in view. Our goal was, and it remains, to nationalize the firms of those who exploit the Somali people. But we have never had the intention of attacking private property as such Private property has been nationalized only when it constituted an element of exploitation”.

“No one here, for example, has ever thought about nationalizing agriculture or industry. On the contrary, we encourage private enterprise in that area. In any case, there is no question of nationalizing land, because we have enough arable land for everyone who needs any”.

It was socialist only in so far as it attempted to curtail exploitation and private abuse and was re-distrubutive, restrict wealth accumilation at the top and pro social programs. Otherwise it had many capitalist driven elements that promoted private sector development and tried to create a balance between private sector and public sector regulatory mechanisms.

1970 clarification by the government:
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Some more explanation of their philosophy:
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I saw those images from this twitter post before. Its very informative so I'm glad you posted it here.

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By the way Idilina, do you have any sources regarding the development of towns outside of Mogadishu? Its often said that only Xamar was developed by Barre but I know for certain other areas were recieving plenty of development too.

 

[Idilinaa]

I saw those images from this twitter post before. Its very informative so I'm glad you posted it here.

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By the way Idilina, do you have any sources regarding the development of towns outside of Mogadishu? Its often said that only Xamar was developed by Barre but I know for certain other areas were recieving plenty of development too.

I believe you can find it some information by looking through that account you linked.

The other towns that received urban development outside of Mogadishu was Lafoole/Afgooye, Kismaayo, Berbera, Burco and Hargeisa. He built road infrastructures, schools, universities and social housing, hospitals and orphanages. But he also built primary schools all over country and basic facilities even in the less populated Eastern regions.

Heck believe it or not Mogadishu was not really the academic center of the country it was Lafoole.

Shared in a different thread examples of the social housing developments in the area. I got the pictures from a documentary
THE KACAAN REGIME: LESSONS LEARNED an exclusive inside into Somalia's longest serving government

They built several affordable social housing units and apartment blocks in other places like Lafoole and Afgooye . But also in Hargeisa and Mogadishu.

It was often built through communal self-help schemes

You can also see in this map that they built industries in areas outside of Mogadishu

 

[Zak12]

I believe you can find it some information by looking through that account you linked.

The other towns that received urban development outside of Mogadishu was Lafoole/Afgooye, Kismaayo, Berbera, Burco and Hargeisa. He built road infrastructures, schools, universities and social housing, hospitals and orphanages. But he also built primary schools all over country and basic facilities even in the less populated Eastern regions.

Heck believe it or not Mogadishu was not really the academic center of the country it was Lafoole.
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Shared in a different thread examples of the social housing developments in the area. I got the pictures from a documentary
THE KACAAN REGIME: LESSONS LEARNED an exclusive inside into Somalia's longest serving government


It was often built through communal self-help schemes
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You can also see in this map that they built industries in areas outside of Mogadishu

Its interesting to see that areas between Jowhar and modern Puntland seem to be empty. Low government priority?

 

[Idilinaa]

Its interesting to see that areas between Jowhar and modern Puntland seem to be empty. Low government priority?

As far as i know. They set up fishing cooperatives along the Northeast coast and fishing infrastructure with fishing harbours, storage and processing/canning facilities. The government invested in fishing gears/motor boats for the coperative fishermen and deep sea thrawling, the large thrawlers were state owned by a Somali company called Somalfish,

They also had other plans , like developing a road in a key historic route that was essential to Frankincense trade, fishing exports and it was maintained by the government before the collapse in 1991 just as they were undertaking plans to pave it.

 

[Shimbiris]

I have the same birthday as Karl Marx.

You sound like him too. Not ideologically but the intellectualism. You would vehemently disagree and perhaps even dislike each other but I bet you'd enjoy sitting down with Marx at a cafe to intellectually brawl a bit.