The Soviet Union was probably the best civilization.

[Idilinaa]

Where do you and others find these books btw? Interesting read.

Sorry didn't see this question.

Sometimes they post them on social media accounts that others link to this sites. Other times i find some stuff on https://www.marxists.org/subject/somalia/index.htm

 

[Zak12]

Siyaad Barre encouraged free trade and private investment. In 1972 the government built a commercial mall with over 100 shops to bolster free trade in the country

. In 1976 Siyaad Barre stated the following in a speech regarding private investment.

"We have no new nationalizations in view. Our goal was, and it remains, to nationalize the firms of those who exploit the Somali people. But we have never had the intention of attacking private property as such Private property has been nationalized only when it constituted an element of exploitation”.

“No one here, for example, has ever thought about nationalizing agriculture or industry. On the contrary, we encourage private enterprise in that area. In any case, there is no question of nationalizing land, because we have enough arable land for everyone who needs any”.

It was socialist only in so far as it attempted to curtail exploitation and private abuse and was re-distrubutive, restrict wealth accumilation at the top and pro social programs. Otherwise it had many capitalist driven elements that promoted private sector development and tried to create a balance between private sector and public sector regulatory mechanisms.

1970 clarification by the government:
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Some more explanation of their philosophy:
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I saw those images from this twitter post before. Its very informative so I'm glad you posted it here.

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By the way Idilina, do you have any sources regarding the development of towns outside of Mogadishu? Its often said that only Xamar was developed by Barre but I know for certain other areas were recieving plenty of development too.

 

[Idilinaa]

I saw those images from this twitter post before. Its very informative so I'm glad you posted it here.

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By the way Idilina, do you have any sources regarding the development of towns outside of Mogadishu? Its often said that only Xamar was developed by Barre but I know for certain other areas were recieving plenty of development too.

I believe you can find it some information by looking through that account you linked.

The other towns that received urban development outside of Mogadishu was Lafoole/Afgooye, Kismaayo, Berbera, Burco and Hargeisa. He built road infrastructures, schools, universities and social housing, hospitals and orphanages. But he also built primary schools all over country and basic facilities even in the less populated Eastern regions.

Heck believe it or not Mogadishu was not really the academic center of the country it was Lafoole.

Shared in a different thread examples of the social housing developments in the area. I got the pictures from a documentary
THE KACAAN REGIME: LESSONS LEARNED an exclusive inside into Somalia's longest serving government

They built several affordable social housing units and apartment blocks in other places like Lafoole and Afgooye . But also in Hargeisa and Mogadishu.

It was often built through communal self-help schemes

You can also see in this map that they built industries in areas outside of Mogadishu

 

[Zak12]

I believe you can find it some information by looking through that account you linked.

The other towns that received urban development outside of Mogadishu was Lafoole/Afgooye, Kismaayo, Berbera, Burco and Hargeisa. He built road infrastructures, schools, universities and social housing, hospitals and orphanages. But he also built primary schools all over country and basic facilities even in the less populated Eastern regions.

Heck believe it or not Mogadishu was not really the academic center of the country it was Lafoole.
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Shared in a different thread examples of the social housing developments in the area. I got the pictures from a documentary
THE KACAAN REGIME: LESSONS LEARNED an exclusive inside into Somalia's longest serving government


It was often built through communal self-help schemes
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You can also see in this map that they built industries in areas outside of Mogadishu

Its interesting to see that areas between Jowhar and modern Puntland seem to be empty. Low government priority?

 

[Idilinaa]

Its interesting to see that areas between Jowhar and modern Puntland seem to be empty. Low government priority?

As far as i know. They set up fishing cooperatives along the Northeast coast and fishing infrastructure with fishing harbours, storage and processing/canning facilities. The government invested in fishing gears/motor boats for the coperative fishermen and deep sea thrawling, the large thrawlers were state owned by a Somali company called Somalfish,

They also had other plans , like developing a road in a key historic route that was essential to Frankincense trade, fishing exports and it was maintained by the government before the collapse in 1991 just as they were undertaking plans to pave it.

 

[Shimbiris]

I have the same birthday as Karl Marx.

You sound like him too. Not ideologically but the intellectualism. You would vehemently disagree and perhaps even dislike each other but I bet you'd enjoy sitting down with Marx at a cafe to intellectually brawl a bit.

 

[Idilinaa]

Somalia during his regime was not a secular country at all. Islam was considered a state religion. They made quranic school compulsory and built mosques and professed/stressed Islam.

Islam as a state religion
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He favored the Wadaads (Religious men) bringing literacy to the masses in the form of Islamic education and he’s seen condemning sectarianism, and calling for the construction and advancement of Duksi’s (islamic schools)
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Documentary segment mentioning and showing the construction of moques and Duksi's schools and the central role Islamic education had:



You can also see it in the governments policies: Not only were religious leaders elevated into position but in many cases Islamic credentials became mandatory.

American diplomatic assessment:

“𝘙𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘨𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘴 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘧𝘢𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘤. 𝘚𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘸𝘦𝘭𝘭-𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘔𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘮 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘪𝘨𝘩-𝘭𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘭 𝘤𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘭 𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘫𝘰𝘣𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘧𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰-𝘰𝘱𝘵 𝘔𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘮 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘑𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘙𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘈𝘧𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘴. 𝘙𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴 𝘐𝘴𝘭𝘢𝘮𝘪𝘤 𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴”
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Also foreign policy wise Somalia swayed more towards Muslim/Arab countries than with the soviet or communist bloc. Proving to that Islam and their Arab/Religious cultural ties mattered more to them than communism

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From New York Times News Paper Oct 11 1977

Its a piece that talks about how Somalia tries to live by the Quran. It further proves what i laid out above: