Treatment of migrants in Somalia

[Zak12]

So regarding the recent news about Puntland's crackdown on undocumented migrants, is it really right or fair for Puntland or any other Somali state for that matter to deport Ethiopians when Ethiopia had historically always allowed waves of Somali refugees to enter galbeed? Genuine question here since many Somalis online are cheering for these acts yet are fine when Somalis move into Ethiopia.

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[Aseer]

The difference is that ethiopians are migrating into lands that arent theirs while somalis are migrating into land that is theirs.

 

[bluebird]

I think it was because they were migrating by the hundreds to then travel to the gulf. I don't think they would even notice if it was a few people migrating here and there


And I don't know how true this is but I heard that ethiopia sends a lot of their people to somaliland to change the political demographic in favor of ethiopia lol

 

[gasara]

So regarding the recent news about Puntland's crackdown on undocumented migrants, is it really right or fair for Puntland or any other Somali state for that matter to deport Ethiopians when Ethiopia had historically always allowed waves of Somali refugees to enter galbeed? Genuine question here since many Somalis online are cheering for these acts yet are fine when Somalis move into Ethiopia.

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Galbeed is our land. They werent entering because of the benevolence of Ethiopia. They were entering because we accept our fellow Somalis no matter the Qabil to our regions and we also help fundraise for them too.

 

[Riftvalley]

Oromos did not do themselves any favours by making themselves the face of the MOU. Abiy and Muse Biixi used the Oromo Aba Gadas (elders) to sweeten up the public for the treacherous so-called agreement. Some Some Somalised Oromos came out of in support of Ethiopia annexing Zeila coast. Now people are suspicious of Oromos in places like Borana and even Hargeysa.

A large number of Oromos are also said to have joined Isis in the mountains.

So the issue is also political rather than a civil issue. This doesn’t mean oromos in Somalia should be mistreated. What is undeniable is that both oromos and afar maybe used to limit Somali territory and push Somalis back from their natural borders in Ethiopia. We have already seen this with the displacement of Somalis from strategic towns in Ethiopia by the Afar militia using heavy arms from the Tigray conflict.


It also has to be noted: Somalis do not have free rein to settle or work inside the major cities of neighbouring states. You need a Somali passport to travel for medical aid to Ethiopia. Kenya is very strict with Somalis travelling there.

Somalis can’t just have a policy of “he’s a Mozlem yo” and let everyone in without checks. The error of this policy is shown in the Ethiopians who travelled through SL then onto punt land mountains.

Also, Somalia does not need large numbers of economic migrants. Most of these people aren’t fleeing war: they’ve come to work or attempt to migrate to Middle East.

 

[Killamenace78]

They took hararghe and bale from us 500 years ago now they want the rest of our land

 

[Varriris]

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[DivineMartial]

The minute Somalis go near Oromos either as refugees or otherwise the Xasuuq campaigns begin. They then have the audacity to pull Islam card to demand access to our lands. An Oromo Muslim and a Tigrayan Christian should be viewed and treated the exact same

Somalis flee a campaign of 'ethnic cleansing' by Oromo militias and Ethiopian government under 'War on Terror'

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[Abdifataax98]

2 million Somalis were displaced from Eastern Oromia a few years ago. Even Somali truck drivers avoid traveling beyond Dire Dawa cuz its highly risky for ethnic Somalis.

Ethiopians are treated 20x better in Somalia than Somalis are in Ethiopia proper. Habashas and other Ethiopians just have a secretive culture, like hiding facts, playing the victim and they know how to maintain a good PR. Unlike our low IQ pastoralists who are uncivilized, gossipy, unhinged, loud, and like to spread PR about themselves

I just returned from Xamar.Ethiopians own entire neighborhoods there. I even saw a dozen of them in Guriceel and locals didn’t seem to mind. The MoU hasn’t changed much, at least in the south. I can’t speak for the northeast or northwest.

That said, the gov gotta controlled and disciplined those unruly pastoralists. Everyone deserves dignity.

 

[NidarNidar]

Oromos did not do themselves any favours by making themselves the face of the MOU. Abiy and Muse Biixi used the Oromo Aba Gadas (elders) to sweeten up the public for the treacherous so-called agreement. Some Some Somalised Oromos came out of in support of Ethiopia annexing Zeila coast. Now people are suspicious of Oromos in places like Borana and even Hargeysa.

A large number of Oromos are also said to have joined Isis in the mountains.

So the issue is also political rather than a civil issue. This doesn’t mean oromos in Somalia should be mistreated. What is undeniable is that both oromos and afar maybe used to limit Somali territory and push Somalis back from their natural borders in Ethiopia. We have already seen this with the displacement of Somalis from strategic towns in Ethiopia by the Afar militia using heavy arms from the Tigray conflict.


It also has to be noted: Somalis do not have free rein to settle or work inside the major cities of neighbouring states. You need a Somali passport to travel for medical aid to Ethiopia. Kenya is very strict with Somalis travelling there.

Somalis can’t just have a policy of “he’s a Mozlem yo” and let everyone in without checks. The error of this policy is shown in the Ethiopians who travelled through SL then onto punt land mountains.

Also, Somalia does not need large numbers of economic migrants. Most of these people aren’t fleeing war: they’ve come to work or attempt to migrate to Middle East.

Some act as spies, and there was a concentrated effort to deport them after 2023 in Awdal.

2 million Somalis were displaced from Eastern Oromia a few years ago. Even Somali truck drivers avoid traveling beyond Dire Dawa cuz its highly risky for ethnic Somalis.

Ethiopians are treated 20x better in Somalia than Somalis are in Ethiopia proper. Habashas and other Ethiopians just have a secretive culture, like hiding facts, playing the victim and they know how to maintain a good PR. Unlike our low IQ pastoralists who are uncivilized, gossipy, unhinged, loud, and like to spread PR about themselves

I just returned from Xamar.Ethiopians own entire neighborhoods there. I even saw a dozen of them in Guriceel and locals didn’t seem to mind. The MoU hasn’t changed much, at least in the south. I can’t speak for the northeast or northwest.

That said, the gov gotta controlled and disciplined those unruly pastoralists. Everyone deserves dignity.

As ethnic group, we fight each other more then external threats, while Oromo, Habesha and Tigrey do have separation but when it gets serious, there is no clan or religious divide, they form militias and get chimp out on the other side.

 

[Sigmundd]

Oromos must be safely deported to their regions as they arent escaping from war or anything Ethiopia took half of our lands and so we cannot afford to lose more lands. Build that wall !!!!!!

 

[Varriris]

what is fascinating is how many oromos there are hiding behind weird clan accounts on tiktok cosplaying as somali the amounts of threats they are throwing around is killing me

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

1 little boy being rude means nothing. I am sick of you 'Somalis' trying the 'woe is me' act when it comes to this violent, brazen, land-expansionist community.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Oromos must be safely deported to their regions as they arent escaping from war or anything Ethiopia took half of our lands and so we cannot afford to lose more lands. Build that wall !!!!!!

Oromo woman sending threats to people in Hargeisa if they dare expel her.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I cannot believe an ethnic Somali dares bring up Somali galbeed when it comes to this land expansionism agenda. Somali refugees live on Somali soil. We are not marti or magan for Ethiopians. And when we live in Addis ababa it's because we are forced to live in Ethiopia and thus, we have the LEGAL RIGHT to be in 'our capital'.

Somalis are the ones whose land are occupied.

And to add insult to injury, you want us to lose what's left to these people?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I think it was because they were migrating by the hundreds to then travel to the gulf. I don't think they would even notice if it was a few people migrating here and there


And I don't know how true this is but I heard that ethiopia sends a lot of their people to somaliland to change the political demographic in favor of ethiopia lol

They're lying.

It's not about migrating anywhere other than Somalia. Their plan is to change the demographics in favour of them so that they can annex what's left of our land.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

These thugs also engage in killing and kidnapping children. Such as this cannibal caught in Gaalkacyo