Trump has won, FGS/HAG have lost.

[El Nino]

From SL to JL, all somali ”governments” are billed by gaalo.

Trump at the helm will mean less overall support to Somalia as a whole. All maamuls will have to do hard choices.

FGS is betting on shidaal to get money. Where will PL get money from? Garacad port was unfortunately sold to UAE, bad mistake.

Its actually good that Trump came to power, no more sitting around. Everybody will have to pull their own weight.

 

[jusbrowsin]

Cause its just plane retarded, you think the UN will fill your begging bowl when they are just going to see you as Somalia #2

If we were to split amicably we would not be Somalia 2.0. Sure initial foreign investment would be required but we could absolutely stand on our own with good governance.

Whats the difference between now and split? Right now our infrastructure investments are politicized and withheld. Who wants to be in a nation with people like that?

eh ehhhh you can’t see how weird it is.Somalis online have an obsession with dehumanising other Somalis and their own country this isn’t normal!!!!

I hear you but what else do you call this? The perpetual begging bowl is Somalia.

 

[Jungle]

FGS is a Hawiye outfit benefiting from 4.5 skewed in favor of Hawiye, located in Hawiye territory. Hawiye territory is notoriously unstable and the FGS location there hinders other regions development due to the tribal influence of Hawiye who use it as a pulpit for their Hawiye agenda. There's a key word here.

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[Aiman12]

If we were to split amicably we would not be Somalia 2.0. Sure initial foreign investment would be required but we could absolutely stand on our own with good governance.

Whats the difference between now and split? Right now our infrastructure investments are politicized and withheld. Who wants to be in a nation with people like that?


I hear you but what else do you call this? The perpetual begging bowl is Somalia.

this fantasy of a balkanized somalia where qabil states flourish is not possible, how are 6+ somalias gonna get a UN seat? without SNA how will AS be held of? some states that are reliant on FGS for funding will simply collapse day 1. Ethiopia will take advantage and annex territory to get sea access, how are tiny qabil states going to stop 130 mil ethiopians? How will aid be distributed without a federal government?

 

[wonyluvr]

I hear you but what else do you call this? The perpetual begging bowl is Somalia.

It’s our home no other ethnic group on planet earth speaks like this about their country.Our people are miskiin they’ve been through so much Famine,War,Floods etc.Somalis back home are some of the most strongest people on earth have some respect for them even though some of them are a bit crazy.

 

[wonyluvr]

this fantasy of a balkanized somalia where qabil states flourish is not possible, how are 6+ somalias gonna get a UN seat? without SNA how will AS be held of? some states that are reliant on FGS for funding will simply collapse day 1. Ethiopia will take advantage and annex territory to get sea access, how are tiny qabil states going to stop 130 mil ethiopians? How will aid be distributed without a federal government?

Clock it

 

[repo]

If 4.5 is in favour of hawiye how did farmaajo win last time all I'm seeing are accusations against hawiye and not any solutions to fix the issues surrounding the fgs. And further weakening the FGS will just be disastrous as Ethiopia and Kenya will be able to do as they please without opposition.

Farmaajo won through bribery and corruption as written in NYT. It's closer to failing than succeeding and I'd rather it fails than my enemy using it as a tool. Regardless of what I think, there are up to 12,000 Shabaab ready to take over as soon as AMISOM leaves so it's inevitable.

 

[Aiman12]

Farmaajo won through bribery and corruption as written in NYT. It's closer to failing than succeeding and I'd rather it fails than my enemy using it as a tool. Regardless of what I think, there are up to 12,000 Shabaab ready to take over as soon as AMISOM leaves so it's inevitable.

AS taking over somalia is unrealistic. even with 12k they wouldnt even be able to control even 1/3 of the country. SNA is 30-40k right now, even without AU troops it is entirely possible SNA can hold AS. especially with the heavy weapons that arrived from egypt.

Everything in somalia is done through bribery and corruption, this isnt just limited to Farmaajo or the south as it is practiced pretty much everywhere and it is very likely HSM and practically every other president elected through 4.5 have participated in this.

 

[Burqad]

AS taking over somalia is unrealistic. even with 12k they wouldnt even be able to control even 1/3 of the country. SNA is 30-40k right now, even without AU troops it is entirely possible SNA can hold AS. especially with the heavy weapons that arrived from egypt.

Everything in somalia is done through bribery and corruption, this isnt just limited to Farmaajo or the south as it is practiced pretty much everywhere and it is very likely HSM and practically every other president elected through 4.5 have participated in this.

Most of the FGS’s troops are on paper.

 

[repo]

AS taking over somalia is unrealistic. even with 12k they wouldnt even be able to control even 1/3 of the country. SNA is 30-40k right now, even without AU troops it is entirely possible SNA can hold AS. especially with the heavy weapons that arrived from egypt.

Everything in somalia is done through bribery and corruption, this isnt just limited to Farmaajo or the south as it is practiced pretty much everywhere and it is very likely HSM and practically every other president elected through 4.5 have participated in this.

Shabaab reversed Hawiye's gain in central Somalia after 1 year, a flat terrain with low vegetation. Where was this so-called army then? Why is AMISOM's mandate getting extended after the Mogadishu leader Hassan Sheikh said they will be gone by December 2024? What are you talking about?

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

European doqomo, Trump is for somalia, americas foreign policy when it comes to somalia is very friendly We will probably see some anti ethiopian policies from him

 

[Libaax-Joore]

US withdrawal from Somalia is back on the menu boys. Proxy between UAE and Qatar/Turkey back on the menu boys. Weaker Mogadishu is back on the menu boys. The last one welcomed.

Take America back again

 

[Nes]

You have got to be kidding

I’m not joking Jubbaland has a larger river than hawiye land and it has more rainfall

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Some people really need to go outside and escpae this qabilism BS, qabil versus qabil means nothing if your country is garbage and when anything happens degenerates are quickly trying to find a way to make it about qabil. The people on this website are just starting to make me hate qabil for even cultural and historical reasons

 

[Aiman12]

Most of the FGS’s troops are on paper.

even then SNA still outnumbers al shabab and has more heavy weapons

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

I’m not joking Jubbaland has a larger river than hawiye land and it has more rainfall

True, entire waamo is very green and wet, also has the biggest river because thats where 3 big rivers meet aswell but why make this about qabil? Who cares it is somali land and I say that as an OG who is from waamo . Its all green bush land waiting to be turned into Farmland and development. We need a leader who at least did development to develop this region by creating lots and lots of dams. We already had plans for 2 until the great foreign funded chimpout

 

[wonyluvr]

I’m not joking Jubbaland has a larger river than hawiye land and it has more rainfall

What even are is hawiye land lmfao Shabelle river is bigger btw but I don’t care about that SWS is apparently the most fertile

 

[Aiman12]

Shabaab reversed Hawiye's gain in central Somalia after 1 year, a flat terrain with low vegetation. Where was this so-called army then? Why is AMISOM's mandate getting extended after the Mogadishu leader Hassan Sheikh said they will be gone by December 2024? What are you talking about?

AS did reverse some gains but not all. AMISOM extension is just the natural consequence because of the stalled offensive.

 

[Pastoralist]

Who wouldn’t be for balkanization at this point. They’re doing exactly what af weyne did by politicizing aid. At least MSB didn’t bend to foreigners. You have the abgaal president not giving Somali youth opportunities to go to different countries, but saying he’ll take them back from the opportunities other countries have, which Somalia doesn’t. His job creation is close to none and there’s been 0 factories or hospitals built despite their low cost to lessen youth unemployment.

anyone can lead better than dameer, that’s what everyone knows. They truly don’t want balkinization, but abgaal give no choice regarding the matter. You see distaster management ministry get 2.8 million for flood control and place a few hundred sandbags to show for it, pocketing the rest. Continue this nonsense and you’ll no longer be leading the country by diplomacy, you’ll have to do it like China. Meaning, through blood and sweat

 

[Juke]

Once they inform him rations intended for the SNA-provided by US money- is being sold and embezzled by HSM's wives>>