Two year extension followed by 1P1V?

[BigBreak]

UPDATE:


Pro Farmajo supporters (and maybe his officials also) are saying that the current impasse regarding elections means that the September 17th agreement is now null and void. Therefore they say there should be a 2 year extension followed by real elections for the Parliament (lower house only?) under universal suffrage and the directly elected lawmakers in turn elect the next president

My theory is that it is easier for Farmajo to rig a real election under 1P1V than a limited, indirect election that happened in late 2016/ early 2017

 

[Murax]

BigBreak,

Farmaajo wants elections because honestly it’s his to lose. The opposition is a complete mess, and the opportunity is golden now. That said, Farmaajo doesn’t control the parliament they are independent of the executive branch. If they table, motion, vote in a extension that is outside his power to say yes or no.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

The incumbent government is screaming Election no Extension, while the qarandumis are screaming No election but maybe extension, nacalaa Somalida siyaasada wee ku ciyaaren, wiligay waxaan oo kale ma arkin.

 

[Removed]

BigBreak,

Farmaajo wants elections because honestly it’s his to lose. The opposition is a complete mess, and the opportunity is golden now. That said, Farmaajo doesn’t control the parliament they are independent of the executive branch. If they table, motion, vote in a extension that is outside his power to say yes or no.

Farmajo only wants an election in which he is rigging. Appropriating your clans Gobol under your control and using it to vote for yourself whilst arming it is obviously displaying his lack of confidence in a fair election. Dont get me started on the other three sham states north of us and their reps.

Stop drinking your own Kool-aid.

 

[Ismail99]

Is this the parliament or kindergarten

 

[$hadow]

Failmaajo and the gedo greed is the route cause of this pathetic display, a parliament whose mandate expired can not give failmaajo an extension, the somali people nor the IC will accept it.

Failmaao is getting mad desperate cause he knows that he lost, the only thing that saved him initially was the fact that the IC recognised his presidency but that is no longer the case.

This shanigans could also be an attempt to divert attention from this

 

[Murax]

Farmajo only wants an election in which he is rigging. Appropriating your clans Gobol under your control and using it to vote for yourself whilst arming it is obviously displaying his lack of confidence in a fair election. Dont get me started on the other three sham states north of us and their reps.

Stop drinking your own Kool-aid.

A term extension would be horrible for N&N, and even myself on principle will be against it. The spoilers Deni, Madoobe would be given what they want by successfully sabotaging elections.

 

[libaac]

Failmaajo and the gedo greed is the route cause of this pathetic display, a parliament whose mandate expired can not give failmaajo an extension, the somali people nor the IC will accept it.

Failmaao is getting mad desperate cause he knows that he lost, the only thing that saved him initially was the fact that the IC recognised his presidency but that is no longer the case.

This shanigans could also be an attempt to divert attention from this

He sent those fms leaders to meet the other two. The people arguing 'feared' it could be about extension, meaning that it hasn't been brought up. Farmaajo is recognised by the IC. He has the backing of US, China and Turkey. Norway acting up because they want kheire in power wont change that. Farmaajo is still president and Deni and Madobe are basically hostages in xalane. Calcaal all you want, but farmaajo has outplayed these people. All this buuq shows just how unsettled they are becoming since they know that they've been cornered
Parliament is expired, but you still wanted mursal to take over then changed to abdi hashi.

 

[MrDeeni1]

He sent those fms leaders to meet the other two. The people arguing 'feared' it could be about extension, meaning that it hasn't been brought up. Farmaajo is recognised by the IC. He has the backing of US, China and Turkey. Norway acting up because they want kheire in power wont change that. Farmaajo is still president and Deni and Madobe are basically hostages in xalane. Calcaal all you want, but farmaajo has outplayed these people. All this buuq shows just how unsettled they are becoming since they know that they've been cornered
Parliament is expired, but you still wanted mursal to take over then changed to abdi hashi.

My sources are saying it’s either the 17th of September agreement is signed. *which won’t be signed unless their is major pressure from the IC in madobe and deni and threats of sanctions which I dont see.

or

extension which will lead to sanctions on Somalia and the country which is run on aid becoming quickly cash strapped. Army won’t be paid and farmaajo stepping down.

Finally

Final option is letting IC meet with all states acting as guarantors and signing this new election agreement. I think this will happen personally, as long as your bills are paid by aid you have no sovereignty.

 

[$hadow]

He sent those fms leaders to meet the other two. The people arguing 'feared' it could be about extension, meaning that it hasn't been brought up. Farmaajo is recognised by the IC. He has the backing of US, China and Turkey. Norway acting up because they want kheire in power wont change that. Farmaajo is still president and Deni and Madobe are basically hostages in xalane. Calcaal all you want, but farmaajo has outplayed these people. All this buuq shows just how unsettled they are becoming since they know that they've been cornered
Parliament is expired, but you still wanted mursal to take over then changed to abdi hashi.

Its not a good idea to belive in you're own lies, failmaajo 100% didn't send anybody, it was the opposite, he tried to prevent them from going and almost lost some federal states in the process all together.

Keep in mind if the opposition, especially the former presidents did partake in a meeting arranged by IC with all federal presidents, before failmaajo was able to meet with them, this alone will be a mayor L to your uncle - and it also explains the desperate attempt in parliament today.

 

[MrDeeni1]

Its not a good idea to belive in you're own lies, failmaajo 100% didn't send anybody, it was the opposite, he tried to prevent them from going and almost lost some federal states in the process all together.

Keep in mind if the opposition, especially the former presidents did partake in a meeting with all federal presidents BEFORE failmaajo its a mayor L to your uncle - which would explain the desperate attempt in parliament today.

sadly even as a N&N guy myself this is what I heard.

The president was completely caught by surprise by the IC community absolutely refusal to warn or even pressure Deni & madobe to accept the agreement they signed on the 17th of September.

I honestly believe the IC see an independent Somalia as a threat and therefore don’t like farmaajo to come back , but regardless even if you disagree and hate farmaajo it’s clear deni and madobe have the backing of the IC.

the longer the deadlock goes on the better it is for deni and madobe.

all road have now been closed for the president he will have to re-open the negotiation/signed agreement. They will all sign with the IC acting as guarantors.

the only agreement the opposition will sign is one they can win and president farmaajo won’t return. Don’t know who they will choice to run and become president but right now it’s “anyone but farmaajo”

 

[codewebsduh]

Limited voting for people with a internationally recognised bachelors degree and higher should only vote. We can't have illiterate qaat munchers voting.

 

[codewebsduh]

Is this the parliament or kindergarten

The sounds of democracy saxib, next we will have a bantu parliamentarian twerking with "farmaajo ii geeya" knitted into her skirt!

 

[Metal Magician]

I give up on these monkeys and who made women parliament they are cawaans

 

[codewebsduh]

I give up on these monkeys and who made women parliament they are cawaans

Those women are part of the opposition. We have plenty of intelligent women in parliament.

 

[libaac]

People thought that giving women 30% of the seats would really change something. They are probably worse than the men. Only the educated women and men should be in parliament. These deranged lowlifes should be barred from holding public office

 

[0117]

Can someone explain 1m1v?
As in will the people of Somalia elect their mps and leaders?

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Can someone explain 1m1v?
As in will the people of Somalia elect their mps and leaders?

1p1v just means we the people get to elect our MPs in each constituency instead of a council of clan elders electing the MPs for us, its mean to increase democratic participation and decrease corruption as no one can bribe an entire constituency as opposed to a select few clan elders.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

People thought that giving women 30% of the seats would really change something. They are probably worse than the men. Only the educated women and men should be in parliament. These deranged lowlifes should be barred from holding public office

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

The sounds of democracy saxib, next we will have a bantu parliamentarian twerking with "farmaajo ii geeya" knitted into her skirt!

Niiko is cultural dance of Somali bantu do not insult others dhaqan saxib, and if I have to be honest it is rare to see any sensible female somali mp, I cannot stand any of them regardless if they are opposition or pro-government