UN envoy visits Garoowe in Northern Somalia

[DR OSMAN]

The reason your lands and regions are filled with destruction and mayhem is because you lack elders. It was these elders of mine that came together in the blazing sun in the Puntland desert and hold a conference for nearly a year to create an administration. The chairman of the conference, Islaan Maxamed Islaan Ciise, said 'May God destroy this building with us if we don't reach an agreement'.

If we hunt down our elders, I'll become like you, and I never want to become like your people.

Your are real majerten, only the real majerten know about Islan Maxamed and his role in forming Puntland, it wasn't Abdillahi Yusuf as the sheegato don't know since they have no real ties to the region other then being a sheegato. God bless ISLAN MAXAMED, plus he saved Galkacyo also from the USC onslaught, do you know about that history?

 

[DR OSMAN]

A question I can answer, finally. Um.. I don't dislike majerteen at all. I dislike their leaders for claiming land that doesn't belong to them colonially.

Good thing for Somaliland this world is based on colonial borders.

A white man doesn't define my land, I define my land. If you want colonial borders go to london or bristol not Somalia, if you want Somalia then talk somalian not british.

 

[DR OSMAN]

A question I can answer, finally. Um.. I don't dislike majerteen at all. I dislike their leaders for claiming land that doesn't belong to them colonially.

Good thing for Somaliland this world is based on colonial borders.

Why don't you just move to britain, just pack up and go there since you want their laws so much. This is somalia sxb and there is no britain here, if you don't like just leave pack up and go where you like to go where there is british borders. British borders are in europe not here. We ask Sayidka about Somalia not the Queen.

 

[Lordilord]

A white man doesn't define my land, I define my land. If you want colonial borders go to london or bristol not Somalia, if you want Somalia then talk somalian not british.

The neighborhood I used to live in Sweden is 95% Somali and should belong to Somalia right because majority Somali people live there.

Sweden should give Somalia this land on which these Somali inhabit yes? This is not the way the real world works saaxib. Get real...

 

[DR OSMAN]

If I wanted to the neighborhood I used to live in Sweden is 95% Somali and should belong to Somalia right because majority Somali people live there.

Sweden should give Somalia this land on which these Somali inhabit correct? This is not the way the real world works saaxib. Get real...

Sweden is majority populated by swedes, I will ask a swede about their borders not Somalis. But I will not ask a white british about my borders when he has no right to this land, this is Somalia and populated by somalis not british, like I said move to london and then join his colonial borders which is the 'uk' today.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The neighborhood I used to live in Sweden is 95% Somali and should belong to Somalia right because majority Somali people live there.

Sweden should give Somalia this land on which these Somali inhabit yes? This is not the way the real world works saaxib. Get real...

Go to Britain and talk about british borders there, that is where his border is today. It is not in Somalia, your in the wrong country sxb, meeshasi iska aad niyahow.

 

[Lordilord]

Sweden is majority populated by swedes, I will ask a swede about their borders not Somalis. But I will not ask a white british about my borders when he has no right to this land, this is Somalia, like I said move to london and then join his colonial borders which is the 'uk' today.

Using your logic I made those statements, do you not realize that what you are saying is absurd? Just because some minority overall are related to MJ adn they inhabit Somaliland Sool and Sanaag belongs to Puntland?

 

[DR OSMAN]

Using your logic I made those statements, do you not realize that what you are saying is absurd? Just because some minority overall are related to MJ adn they inhabit Somaliland Sool and Sanaag belongs to Puntland?

Minority, wtf? their grazing land is from burco to erigavo to All Sanag eastern areas up untill Bari then to ethiopia and outside garowe. Harti Waqoyi are larger then you, how can you say their smaller? do you need livestock count again, daaqsin logic, water well premise and it's implications and comparisons against your nomadic population? you want to count how many houses are in SOOL and Sanaag and we count how many are in isaaq lands? you just have hargeisa-gabiley-burco-berbera there is nothing else besides that, no nomads at all besides habar yonis.

 

[Lordilord]

Minority, wtf? their grazing land is from burco to erigavo to All Sanag eastern areas up untill Bari then to ethiopia and outside garowe. Harti Waqoyi are larger then you, how can you say their smaller? do you need livestock count again, daaqsin logic, water well premise and it's implications and comparisons against your nomadic population? you want to count how many houses are in SOOL and Sanaag and we count how many are in isaaq lands? you just have hargeisa-gabiley-burco-berbera there is nothing else besides that, no nomads at all besides habar yonis.

"The Isaaq sub-clans (Habar Yoonis and Habar Jeclo) form a majority of the population inhabiting the western and central areas of Sanaag region, including the regional capital Erigavo."

Source: http://www.somali-jna.org/downloads/ACFA9.pdf

As for Sool. Caynabo district is purely Habar Jeclo and Xudun district is shared between Habar Yoonis and Dhulbahante.

"The Isaaq clan have a large presence in the western and northern parts of Sool region, with Habar Jeclo sub-clan of Isaaq living in the Aynabo district whilst the Habar Yoonis subclan lives in the eastern part of Xudun district and the very western part of Las Anod district."

Source: https://www.ecoi.net/en/file/local/1158113/1226_1457606427_easo-somalia-security-feb-2016.pdf

 

[DR OSMAN]

That's it Lordi lord I have had gutful of you. I am going on google earth right now and counting towns by area size. I will apply a square and count 100 homes and apply the square all over the town to get an average for you. f*ck you waryaa you wanna do this. Then we were talking MIYI WARYAA and lookin at DAAQSIN SIZE.

 

[DR OSMAN]

"The Isaaq sub-clans (Habar Yoonis and Habar Jeclo) form a majority of the population inhabiting the western and central areas of Sanaag region, including the regional capital Erigavo."

Source: http://www.somali-jna.org/downloads/ACFA9.pdf

As for Sool. Caynabo district is purely Habar Jeclo and Xudun district is shared between Habar Yoonis and Dhulbahante.

"The Isaaq clan have a large presence in the western and northern parts of Sool region, with Habar Jeclo sub-clan of Isaaq living in the Aynabo district whilst the Habar Yoonis subclan lives in the eastern part of Xudun district and the very western part of Las Anod district."

Source: https://www.ecoi.net/en/file/local/1158113/1226_1457606427_easo-somalia-security-feb-2016.pdf

I can't count puntland because it's too many settlements and will be to long, Isaaq should be done quick looooooooooooool

 

[Lordilord]

That's it Lordi lord I have had gutful of you. I am going on google earth right now and counting towns by area size. I will apply a square and count 100 homes and apply the square all over the town to get an average for you. f*ck you waryaa you wanna do this. Then we were talking MIYI WARYAA and lookin at DAAQSIN SIZE.

You will be able to tell me all that from Google Earth just from counting 100 homes?

 

[DR OSMAN]

You will be able to tell me all that from Google Earth just from counting 100 homes?

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Yep if I find out the area size and count 100 homes and work out the area size of 100 homes, I can figure out how many homes can exist in the over-all area size. It's mathamatic. It's simple. Square around the area of hargeisa and get an area measurement(that's space), then within the space(count 100 homes and apply a space) then work out how many spaces fit the over-all space and then apply a population estimation formula which I made clear to you is 5 per household to average out the population. It's all done and dusted.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Lordilord do you want add any equations to it and factors to make sure the averaging is close as accurate as possible? maybe consider poverty levels, we know hargeisa is poor as f*ck and if your poor you aint getting married niyahow in somalia, so household families will have lesser children as they can't feed them all. So should we drop the 5 per family household for hargeisa based on poverty index? how accurate should we go on poverty index? what about we apply the same area measurement on a city we do know the population count because it has a government and counted it's people manually and we check if our area measurement is true by applying 5 per household rule and see how close we get to their manual count. If it's close we know we are perfecting our equation if it's not then we need to account for the factors that blew it out.

 

[Lordilord]

@Lordilord do you want add any equations to it and factors to make sure the averaging is close as accurate as possible?

No go with what you feel like is most correct bro..

 

[DR OSMAN]

No go with what you feel like is most correct bro..

Ok I went and cooked a stir fry noodles with vegetables for dinner and started watching a movie but remembered you really wanna do this shit niyahow. Bring @draco bring @Saalax Bidaar you bring all them niggas in hargeisa as I school their ass on how area measurements are done.

Do you agree we need to do two lines first? One line going down vertically on hargeisa to give length and one line going horizontal to give us the width? Hargeisa vertically is 6000 meters or 6 kilometers that's why you hardly see any roads larger then that in hargeisa that's your length vertically. I just measured it.

If you want to see proof of it ask and I'll quickly snap-shot the shit for you or I can show you how to do it on google earth. Then you need a line horizontal line to measure the width. It's 7000 meters o 7 kilometers wide.

Your measurements are 6 for length x 7 for width = area of 42 kilometers. So the whole area or space in between the two vertical and horizontal points is 42 kilo-meters. If I travelled to each house on a car one by one I would clock 42 kilometers basically. Imagine 42 kilometers, it's the size of a small city no more then 400k. The whole place in hargeisa is about 42000 meters in measurement. Anyways check washington dc it's Area is 177 kilometers that is 3 times the size of hargeisa and washington dc is 600k population. How can hargeisa be 1.2 million? We will get to the bottom of this waryee.


I'll work out how many houses are in 1 kilometer space and it's simple multiplication over 42 kilometers and then average households to 5 per family(being generous for your drug addict ass but u should be around 3 per household due to poverty level and babies dying and shit).

1 kilometer is going to be to long to count. I'll grab one house and measure how much space it takes up and x by 42 kilometers assuming all the area is filled with houses but I doubt it will be cause there is empty stadiums, roads, and backyards, etc. But I will give u a pity card waryaa because I am lazy as f*ck.

 

[DR OSMAN]

No go with what you feel like is most correct bro..

Are you sure you wanna do this niyahow? Are u prepared to find our the real hargeisa population? forget your real miyi also there is nothing there and why your government never builds wells, why build it when the land pasture is tiny and it can't accomodate large families.

 

[nine]

A question I can answer, finally. Um.. I don't dislike majerteen at all. I dislike their leaders for claiming land that doesn't belong to them colonially.

Good thing for Somaliland this world is based on colonial borders.

WAA WAREEEY

 

[Cumar]

don't even count gabiley as a city

Wallahi that place is dead and the siigo will make your face dusty

Gabiley > whatever dusty irrelavant shithole you come from.

 

[Cumar]

NO 1 ogaden population. No 2 dispute between abgal and mj...no 3 whoever secures no 2 the other will no three. No 4 is a dispute between hg, marehan, dir waqoyi south(combined including isaaq thats why ur grouped into dir in parliament sxb), dhulbahante according to the true elders who know somalis.

Your logic would have worked in the 1950s, but not today. Using nomadic population is problematic since there has been huge population boost in farming communities in Somaliland as well as the trend of urbanisation.

Dhulbahante were the same size as Sacad Muuse ( a sub clan of Habar Awal) in 1944, and yet you are trying to convince everyone they are larger than Isaaq kkk.