UN envoy visits Garoowe in Northern Somalia

[DR OSMAN]

Your logic would have worked in the 1950s, but not today. Using nomadic population is problematic since there has been huge population boost in farming communities in Somaliland as well as the trend of urbanisation.

Dhulbahante were the same size as Sacad Muuse ( a sub clan of Habar Awal) in 1944, and yet you are trying to convince everyone they are larger than Isaaq kkk. View attachment 51250

Words from Isaaq colonial officers that were hired by british and working for them giving estimates of other clans population with no evidence except just their words is kinda similar to hawiye fudged the population count on the UNFPA with shitty formulas and neglecting nomadic population counts, they 1950 report don't even speak of the formulas they used because they're was none lol at least unfpa was a good attempt at fudging population count using google earth and neglecting nomadic count which would've sent majerten to no 1 of somalia.

 

[Cumar]

Words from Isaaq colonial officers that were hired by british and working for them giving estimates of other clans population with no evidence except just a report, they don't even speak of the formulas they used because they're was none lol

The survey consulted elders from all major clans, even your Majeerteen are in the book.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The survey consulted elders from all major clans, even your Majeerteen are in the book.

I am giving you formulas to work. Hargeisa is 42 kilometer in space. There is only 30 houses per 100 meters. 100 meters x 10= 1 kilometer. So take 30 x 10 is 300 houses per kilometer. If your 42 kilometers just x 300 houses and you got the number of houses in hargeisa. It's 12600 houses. It's an estimate though but far better then the crap your spewing from the 1950s when we have technology to use and far more better mathamatics and physics at our hands.

Now I have the household count. You want to apply the population formula and give 5 people to each household as an average to get an over-all population?

 

[Cumar]

I am giving you formulas to work. Hargeisa is 42 kilometer in space. There is only 30 houses per 100 meters. 100 meters x 10= 1 kilometer. So take 30 x 10 is 300 houses per kilometer. If your 42 kilometers just x 300 houses and you got the number of houses in hargeisa. It's 12600 houses. It's an estimate though but far better then the crap your spewing from the 1950s when we have technology to use and far more better mathamatics and physics at our hands.

Now I have the household count. You want to apply the population formula and give 5 people to each household as an average to get an over-all population?

You said a few posts ago that urban population doesn't mean much. My source also says nothing about Hargeisa. Honestly if I had to guess the population of Hargeisa is roughly 1 million souls.

Also you have to understand Hargeisa doesn't have good town planning and due to that houses are built far closer to each other than you are suggesting they are. 5 people per household is very conservative, probably closer to 8-10 i'd say.

 

[DR OSMAN]

12600 houses. Each house has 5 members. The maths is 12600 houses. 1 house = 5. 2 houses = 10. 3 houses = 15. 4 houses = 20. You see the pattern now lets short cut it so we get to 1200 quicker. if 4 houses has 20 then 8 houses has 40 people. To get to 10 houses has 50.

So 10 houses= 50 people in hargeisa. Then work it 100 houses must equal 500 people. 1000 houses 5000 people. 2000 houses = 10,000 people. 4000 houses = 20,000 people. 8000 houses = 40,000 people. 10,000 = 60,000. 12000 = 80,000 people. 600 houses left over half 1000 houses population it's another 3000.

Hargeisa big population is 83000 people that is being generous and assuming the whole land is filled with houses and it's not. It's probably closer to 60k.

 

[DR OSMAN]

You said a few posts ago that urban population doesn't mean much. My source also says nothing about Hargeisa. Honestly if I had to guess the population of Hargeisa is roughly 1 million souls.

Also you have to understand Hargeisa doesn't have good town planning and due to that houses are built far closer to each other than you are suggesting they are. 5 people per household is very conservative, probably closer to 8-10 i'd say.

It's below 100k in Hargeisa possibly 60k considering I assumed the whole 42 kilometer space in Hargeisa is housed to max and density is high which it isn't at all, Hargeisa is very sprawled. That's what the maths says and I demonstrated the formula I used to work out your area and how many houses occupy 100 meter to work out how many can occupy 1 kilometer x 6 kilometer length and 7 kilometer width, I boxed it into a rectangle into google earth.

Nigga you got around 60k in Hargeisa. That seems more like logical.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Washington DC has 277,378 households. That's physical houses niyahow. It has an area of 177 kilometer and a population of 600k. You have a household population of estimating 12600, an area of 42 kilometers, so 60-80k is good estimate based on the maths. Taking into consideration a number of factors also that I assumed all houses are filled in the 42 kilometer space of hargeisa and we know that isn't true so you got added numbers so I reduce it back down to 60k for error margin.

You niggas wasting time on my city is bigger then yours, your city is 60k niyahow, go look at a town of 60000 and find out it's area and I bet it's similar to Hargeisa area and then look at the city on youtube and see if you feel the hargeisa feeling.

Bosaso however isn't wide in terms of width but it has alot of length niyahow so it's area space will be interesting but I can't be bothered doing let another clan do it. But as Puntlanders we don't faan on cities we faan on our reer miyi population and we work that out on livestock counts.

 

[DR OSMAN]

For whatever it's worth. I think hamar stretches to about 20 kilometers length wise and I am not sure width wise. Maybe you guys can work it out if you want, but I shown you the formula to get the households. Work out how many houses are in 100 meters then multiply it by 10 for 1 kilometer when you know how many can be in 1 kilometer multiply it again by the area space you get for hamar you should know how many households are there. Then do what I did to get population count and assign 5 people to each house. I suspect hamar is around 200k.

That's why Majerten always do faan on land size, it's to boast about the miyi size we have, where-as the losers faan on city sizes and even then we have more cities anyways and tuulos and it all adds up but we also have a large miyi population based on the daaqsin and pasture land we control, we can't say the same for isaaq land size you triangle boy you stuck and u less then majerten go get all dir niyahow and harti waqoyi and combine like I told @Lordilord

 

[Lordilord]

You are spewing nonsense bro, I get it you love Puntland. It's personal to you right?

I'm sorry but Puntland ain't shit same with SL, your calculations are all wrong.

Stop embarrassing yourself

 

[Pla]

The reason your lands and regions are filled with destruction and mayhem is because you lack elders. It was these elders of mine that came together in the blazing sun in the Puntland desert and hold a conference for nearly a year to create an administration. The chairman of the conference, Islaan Maxamed Islaan Ciise, said 'May God destroy this building with us if we don't reach an agreement'.

If we hunt down our elders, I'll become like you, and I never want to become like your people.

What do you mean by your people

 

[Abdalla]

What do you mean by your people

What the fcuk do you think I mean?

 

[Pla]

What the fcuk do you think I mean?

I don’t know wtf you mean

Because “your people” doesn’t make sense

 

[Abdalla]

I don’t know wtf you mean

Because “your people” doesn’t make sense

Your fcuking clan. GTFO if you don't understand what 'your people' in somali context means

Tell me your subclan, so I can insult them.

 

[Pla]

Your fcuking clan. GTFO if you don't understand what 'your people' in somali context means

Tell me your subclan, so I can insult them.

I’m Somali and we are not a clan you imbecile

 

[Abdalla]

I’m Somali and we are not a clan you imbecile

Tell me your clan so I can insult them

At least give me a region