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No, were not. Stop the cope. Most Somalis settled to the US in the 90s-Early 2000s at the latest. 20-30 years is enough time to pay off a mortgage and own property, Somalis are still disproportionally reliant on government aid in the US.
Vietnamese people came into the US during the 70s and 80s as refigees and are now either at the median or above the median income. Do you think this will happen to Somalis within the next decade?
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This comparison is retarded. The avg somali who came here in the 90s and early 2000s did not how to speak English. Most of them had never been to formal schooling in their entire lives. They also gave birth to kids right away .
Compare this with the avg african from Kenya or Nigeria who speak English and couldn't get into america without at minium having a bachelor's degree.
Compare this with the avg african from Kenya or Nigeria who speak English and couldn't get into america without at minium having a bachelor's degree.
Somali Americans especially reer Minnesota are just now after 20-30 years beginning to purchase homes. There are outliers in other parts of the U.S. for Somali Americans. Do you think that Somalis wouldn't have purchased earlier if it wasn't for interest in mortgages and religious faith leaders suggesting we should avoid at all costs? It wasn't until recent that American/Western Islamic leaders started recommending for the first home it's technically a necessity so it's an exception.
You have to realize we are not other communities we have very specific barriers as Muslims and refugees that doesn't mirror other communities. Is it true many Somalis are reliant on government aid? Yes, but that doesn't take away from the younger generation breaking out of that and entering the middle class with professional careers. There's many measures we're doing well as a community and other measures that we're still struggling with. Granted where many Somalis came from back home (baadiyo with zero education to America) many folks are doing well by the wildest imagination.
The data is also not entirely accurate due to many Somalis getting government assistance but making more unreported income.
2025+ we'll be breaking barriers. I'm optimistic for Somericans.
@SixthAbdi you should be more pissed at our country back home for producing a bunch of dumb ass people.
The civil war happened right before we fully started to educate most of our population. Most of our country was filled with dumb ass ooga booga bush people
Our ancestors and current Somali elders have failed us.
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"Most of them had never been to formal schooling in their entire lives. They also gave birth to kids right away "
Slightly off-topic, but whenever I hear Somali horror stories about bad parenting, I can't help but remember how many dumb ass parents we have.
A lot of these people should have never had kids.
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These "barriers" are completely self-inflicted. Buying mortgages and property that are not sharia backed is Haram and has mass stigmatization amongst the Somali community, but lying to the government about your income (which is Haram) for extra financial aid is normalized and actually encouraged amongst families? Make it make sense.
Other Muslim communities integrate easier to the US because they come from urbanized societies with cultural practices that parallel economic advancements. That's the root of the issue
I dont think they're really lying on the taxes. Nobody can evade the irs . But even if they were thats not really on the samek level as ribs which is like 4 or 5th worst sin possible.
But to your point about other Muslims communities. It's not becuase they come from urbanizaed societies. It's becuase they are the 1% from their societies who were the best educated. They all came here either as college students or as grad students.
Addressed this before. Much of the income of Somali Americans are under-reported, it's higher in actuality because they are counting only formal income and not the informal, from the informal sector.
You can start to see this clearly when you look at Somali American food security rate compared to other low income households.
You can start to see this clearly when you look at Somali American food security rate compared to other low income households.
Good way to demonstrate this, is to show that Somalis have lower food insecurity rate compared with other low income households like Hispanic and Black Americans.
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This is not as frequent anymore. Back in day was rampant with jobs like taxi that dealt with cash mostly. Now with uber and stuff being digital its hard to hide income. Also not that many cash under table jobs available. Everything digital now a days hard to not leave paper trail with IRS
Even if they do report their income I doubt they're making enough. A lot of these old heads were taxi drivers and Uber drivers for 15+ years.
"Somali American food security rate compared to other low income households"
Most low income Somali households can qualify for food stamps. Most grocery stores in america accept food stamps so the government will literally pay for groceries.
These are the monthly income limits required for food stamps recipients.
https://www.ncoa.org/article/what-is-the-income-limit-for-snap/
Somalis in America , say for example Minnesota are mostly employed in diverse sectors, like food processing, home care, social workers, retail/service, education/teaching, interpreter work, construction, manual labor(carpenters, builders), public sector or non-profit or are employed in small businesses and then you have a few working in IT and information services which is growing especially as more younger people are joining this group.
They don't just work in transportation delivery driver, taxi or trucking etc. I know you love typecasting Somalis with this to diminish them with. It just shows Somalis are willing to pick any type of work.
Food stamps are not enough stave off food insecurity. And most Somalis don't live on welfare or food stamps. There is less Somalis who rely on food stamps then white Americans in Minnesota in some counties.
This is an article from 2007.
Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare
Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…
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Another Minnesota State study:
How can Somalis be less reliant on welfare and have greater food security than Black Americans and Hispanics but earn less than them?
What it means in reality is that Somalis have more wealth that is not accounted for.
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Somalis in America , say for example Minnesota are mostly employed in diverse sectors, like food processing, home care, social workers, retail/service, education/teaching, interpreter work, construction, manual labor(carpenters, builders), public sector or non-profit or are employed in small businesses and then you have a few working in IT and information services which is growing especially as more younger people are joining this group.
They don't just work in transportation delivery driver, taxi or trucking etc. I know you love typecasting Somalis with this to diminish them. It just shows Somalis are willing to pick any type of work.
Food stamps are not enough stave off food insecurity. And most Somalis don't live on welfare or food stamps. There is less Somalis who rely on food stamps then white Americans in Minnesota.
This is an article from 2007.
Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare
Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…
Another Minnesota State study:
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How can Somalis be less reliant on welfare and have greater food security than Black Americans and Hispanics but earn less than them?
What it means in reality is that Somalis have more wealth that is not accounted for.
"home care, social workers, retail/service, education/teaching, interpreter work, construction, manual labor(carpenters, builders), public sector or non-profit or are employed in small businesses and then you have a few working in IT and information services which is growing especially as more younger people are joining this group"
Like 99% of this group you mentioned are millennials that went to school in the states. Im not expecting any of these young somalis to be receiving government benefits.
I was mainly referring to the gen X somalis that raised most of us here in america. Most fathers were taxi and Uber drivers. A lot of them are still working too and are making less than 40k a year.
Our household income jumped to 50k mainly because millennials enter the workforce which is a good thing.
