War in Galkayo

[Step a side]

You just said you don’t need to test any more than the 4 Murusade cousins meanwhile MJ are still getting tested regularly

I’m testing Gugundhabe, Gurgura etc. I’m too old to compete with MJ. I’m trying to find out how I connect to Hawiye and Irir and the other older Samaale clans. We are not on the same page. You can go ahead and test all the Majerteen if you like but Yfull will still treat you as a 3rd sibling

Btw I love how you keep calling the Hilibi sample that’s at least 35+ generations removed from me as “cousin”. You do you saxib.

 

[Step a side]

When you post Hawiye clan trees for proof it looks like sixir to all of us sxb, like you are summoning a demon, no offense

The family tree (oral history) matches Yfull (science) calculations though.

 

[TheLand]

The family tree (oral history) matches Yfull (science) calculations though.

You came to that ‘scientific’ conclusion based on your 4 Murusade cousins?

 

[ggoat]

you are lost Sade boqortoyo

Kkkk what ever makes you guys sleep better tonight saxib.

@TheLand I love how you resorted to sixir. It’s what an Ogaden guy used to say when some of the M Zubair clans weren’t matching up with the rest of Darood

Jabarta is a noble title that has been present in the Somali region since the 13th century and in other regions as well. Brother, we are ready to bestow this noble title upon Murusade the lost Sade.

 

[Step a side]

you are lost Sade boqortoyo



Jabarta is a noble title that has been present in the Somali region since the 13th century and in other regions as well. Brother, we are ready to bestow this noble title upon Murusade the lost Sade.

I have no genetic ties to Sade or Darood. I’m a proud Hawiye Alhamdulilah. Even Jiiraan and Geri don’t have ties to Darood and here you are talking about lost Sade

 

[_Yusuf_]

I have no genetic ties to Sade or Darood. I’m a proud Hawiye Alhamdulilah. Even Jiiraan and Geri don’t have ties to Darood and here you are talking about lost Sade

Who are Geri related to? MJ?

 

[Step a side]

Who are Geri related to? MJ?

Results are not out yet for that E-V32 Geri. We are still waiting. The other few Geri’s so far all were non E-V32 while Jiiraan was stand alone with Habar Awal as their closest male relatives. I’m guessing the Geri will match this Jiiraan.

 

[_Yusuf_]

Results are not out yet for that E-V32 Geri. We are still waiting. The other few Geri’s so far all were non E-V32 while Jiiraan was stand alone with Habar Awal as their closest male relatives. I’m guessing the Geri will match this Jiiraan.

Has irir lost one clan? This DNA stuff only seems to chip away at darood.

 

[TheLand]

I thought about it and it is better to not let RB move into the land. In the future these clashes would have been happening with RB and LLK something like 2023 except PL would never back LLK in that situation. It's better that we beefed with GM side instead of an internal conflict that would turn into annexation over time. It was a calculated wise decision.

Why do you need to let anyone in? Is there not enough LLK or something?

 

[Step a side]

Has irir lost one clan? This DNA stuff only seems to chip away at darood.

Most of the Dir are not even E-V32 so Irir might not even exist at all. Let’s see what Gurgura and Akisho get. They both at the lab at the moment and both got E-V32 and both are Madaxweyne Dir. We know more about Darood because they are oversampled. I’m sure their will be inconsistency with other clans as well

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

@Step a side I swear the worst thing to happen to us MJs aside from the ‘69 coup and then fleeing Xamar in ‘91 is ending up on the same tree as MuRuSaDE. La xawla wa la quwati ila billah. Oh Allah we seek refuge with you, we seek refuge from any genetic link between us and beesha HAG. Allahuma Ameen.

 

[_Yusuf_]

Why do you need to let anyone in? Is there not enough LLK or something?

Sacad was allowed to graze in LLK land because of naxariis or strategy avoiding a conflict because a drought was going on at the time. This lead to string of conflicts that leads to were we are today. I imagine the initial land given off was excess that could be rented out. As for RB I remember Punite saying something along the lines of them wanting to settle in Jiicboor and act as a coalition rappel Sacad. So at this point it's not about whether we can fill the land it's about the conflict with a rival clan. My point is that RB over time would turn into and adversary that would expand as all people naturally do. This situation by far would be worse compare to our current predicament. If I made the decision I would have refused access to sacad and said lets just fight off rip because they were gonna do that in the future anyway. Alas hindsight is 20/20.

As for population it is no secret that leelkase is one of the smaller daroods with kabalax being at minimum 65-70% of darood. Even then the clan breaks down as Kabalax > Sade > Tanade > Yusuf > Cisse. Given our situation I think my clan elders are playing their card wisely by refusing other darood to settle in the land.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Sacad was allowed to graze in LLK land because of naxariis or strategy avoiding a conflict because a drought was going on at the time. This lead to string of conflicts that leads to were we are today. I imagine the initial land given off was excess that could be rented out. As for RB I remember Punite saying something along the lines of them wanting to settle in Jiicboor and act as a coalition rappel Sacad. So at this point it's not about whether we can fill the land it's about the conflict with a rival clan. My point is that RB over time would turn into and adversary that would expand as all people naturally do. This situation by far would be worse compare to our current predicament. If I made the decision I would have refused access to sacad and said lets just fight off rip because they were gonna do that in the future anyway. Alas hindsight is 20/20.

As for population it is no secret that leelkase is one of the smaller daroods with kabalax being at minimum 65-70% of darood. Even then the clan breaks down as Kabalax > Sade > Tanade > Yusuf > Cisse. Given our situation I think my clan elders are playing their card wisely by refusing other darood to settle in the land.

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[_Yusuf_]

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Well I guess I was mistaken I probably miss remembered what Punite said then. Either way does my explanation hold water? Why were the denied?

 

[_Yusuf_]

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I think my explanation is obviously the case. If you only have one clan capital you would never want to split influence in your only domain it's a no brainer.