Warning Against Daniel Haqiqatjou
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"The recent Halloween stuff demonstrated this. You thought that Twitter akh always talking about Quran and Sunnah was a strong defender of deen? But oh no! Now he is saying Halloween celebration is just "wearing costumes" and unobjectionable."
-Daniel Haqiqatjou
can anyone show me any fatwa from any Salafi scholar that is approving of Halloween?
Salafis aren't even okay with Saudi national day, much less Halloween....
this idea that there's this group called Salafis or Madkhalis that's going around claiming Halloween is halal at the behest of a government.... who???? who specifically is doing? even Sheikh Rabee Madkhali isn't going to say Halloween is halal.... there is a Madkhali sect and Sheikh Rabee Madkhali himself is not a Madkhali?
who from the Salafis is going around and claiming Halloween is halal?
-Daniel Haqiqatjou
can anyone show me any fatwa from any Salafi scholar that is approving of Halloween?
Salafis aren't even okay with Saudi national day, much less Halloween....
this idea that there's this group called Salafis or Madkhalis that's going around claiming Halloween is halal at the behest of a government.... who???? who specifically is doing? even Sheikh Rabee Madkhali isn't going to say Halloween is halal.... there is a Madkhali sect and Sheikh Rabee Madkhali himself is not a Madkhali?
who from the Salafis is going around and claiming Halloween is halal?
They say: “They Are Jaamis and They Are Madkhalis.” | Shaykh Sālih al-Fawzān
Sheikh Madkhali has been supported by Sheikh Fawzan, Sheikh Uthaymeen and Sheikh Uthaymeen.... so if there is a Madkhali sect, they must all be Madkhalis too.... just this dishonesty shows how sketchy this "Madkhali" label is.... if you're to rant about "Madkhalis" just be honest and say "Salafis"
this illustrates the real agenda behind the slander against Sheikh Madkhali (it's because he went after Sayyid Qutb and the Ikhwanis... the entire campaign is an agenda to serve Ikhwani interests)
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I've watched a dozen or so Daniel Haqiqatjou videos and his videos are almost entirely all centred around calling out scholars or the moral depravity of the West.
Daniel Haqiqatjou is certainly an interesting character but I find that older scholars have more substance as opposed to theatrics.
Daniel Haqiqatjou is certainly an interesting character but I find that older scholars have more substance as opposed to theatrics.
Muslim skeptic has always revolved around criticizing secular liberalism, Daniel has never claimed to be a shaykh and the channel isn't meant to learn about the fundamentals of Islam. I don't understand how this thread harms Daniels credibility
Wasn't this the guy that argued against women getting higher education?
For those who don't understand the bootlicker logic and why they are so angry with me:
If you criticize Halloween in Saudi, you are criticizing the ruler of Saudi, which will lead people to make takfir of the ruler, which will lead people to rebel against the ruler, which is what the khawarij did.
So criticizing Halloween in Saudi is the same as rebelling against the ruler, which makes you a kharijite which makes you a dog of hell fire and your blood is halal and there is a reward from Allah to kill you.
This is literally what they are fuming about.
Very conveniently, their logic here facilitates the whole Ummah being silent while these Muslim countries are forcibly secularized and used to genocide Muslims in Palestine, Yemen, etc. Speak out and you become a dog of hell fire and your blood is halal, according to them. SubhanAllah!
Many of these bootlickers/madkhalis have worked with Western government agencies to report on Muslims as "terrorists" who simply criticize these puppet regimes in the Muslim world.
They justify collaborating with the enemies of Islam against believers because, in their belief, the khawarij deserve to be killed.
I have never called for rebelling against rulers.
I have never takfired any ruler by name.
I have only criticized secularization, abolishing the application of Sharia, and collaborating with kuffar to kill and oppress Muslims.
But according to the bootlickers, I am a "takfiri khariji." Why? Because I say promoting Halloween, holding degenerate dance concerts, editing school textbooks to make them LGBT friendly, and building Hindu temples are bad things. This makes my blood and the blood of all Muslims who are opposed to all this halal.
Actually, for the bootlickers, not criticizing rulers is not enough. You have to actively praise them.
This is why so many great ulama have been imprisoned and are facing the death penalty in Saudi. They are literally on death row. Not because they criticized the rulers, but because they failed to adequately praise them!
If you do not actively praise the rulers, that opens the door to criticize the rulers, which opens the door to takfiring the rulers, which opens the door to rebelling against the rulers, which is khuruj and makes you a kharijite, which makes you a dog of hell fire and your blood halal. So, not praising the ruler = you should be killed.
This is the logic. And they have made this into an issue of aqida. So if you do disagree with any of this, you are a deviant outside of Ahl al-Sunna.
The bootlicker logic also extends to Muslims protesting non-Muslim oppressors. You can see all the statements from this cult blasting Palestinians and Indians and Uyghurs for protesting against their oppressors.
According to the bootlickers, protesting against the kafir oppressors is absolutely haram and a deviance. Muslims should just be silent and allow Hindutva, the CCP, and Israel genocide them.
Why?
Because these gulf rulers have diplomatic relations with Israel, China, India, so anyone who criticizes these countries is indirectly criticizing the Muslim rulers, which leads to khuruj.
If you have any doubt about any of this, ask the bootlickers directly in twitter. See if they have any support for Palestinians, Indian Muslims, et al., fighting back. Ask them if it is a good thing for these countries to have diplomatic relations with regimes that are genociding Muslims.
They will either stay silent or they will say "muh Turkey does it too!" At which point you can say, "Turkey is wrong too, now answer the question, bootlicker."
The other point about bootlickers/madkhalis. They pretend like they represent all Salafis when in fact, they are a small cult that attacks all Salafis who don't agree with them and label them as takfiri kharijis, which, again, means their blood is halal.
Usually I wouldn't care about this group of losers and their barking, but unfortunately, some younger Muslims are not aware of the issue and are following them. This is directly tied to the issue of liberalism, secularism, feminism, because these rulers are pushing these ideologies onto the Ummah by force. The bootlickers in the West pretend like they oppose such ideologies, but in reality, they are proponents of them because they run defense for the secularization project in the Muslim world.
The recent Halloween stuff demonstrated this. You thought that Twitter akh always talking about Quran and Sunnah was a strong defender of deen? But oh no! Now he is saying Halloween celebration is just "wearing costumes" and unobjectionable.
They change their deen according to what the ruler says.
- Daniel Haqiqatjou
If you criticize Halloween in Saudi, you are criticizing the ruler of Saudi, which will lead people to make takfir of the ruler, which will lead people to rebel against the ruler, which is what the khawarij did.
So criticizing Halloween in Saudi is the same as rebelling against the ruler, which makes you a kharijite which makes you a dog of hell fire and your blood is halal and there is a reward from Allah to kill you.
This is literally what they are fuming about.
Very conveniently, their logic here facilitates the whole Ummah being silent while these Muslim countries are forcibly secularized and used to genocide Muslims in Palestine, Yemen, etc. Speak out and you become a dog of hell fire and your blood is halal, according to them. SubhanAllah!
Many of these bootlickers/madkhalis have worked with Western government agencies to report on Muslims as "terrorists" who simply criticize these puppet regimes in the Muslim world.
They justify collaborating with the enemies of Islam against believers because, in their belief, the khawarij deserve to be killed.
I have never called for rebelling against rulers.
I have never takfired any ruler by name.
I have only criticized secularization, abolishing the application of Sharia, and collaborating with kuffar to kill and oppress Muslims.
But according to the bootlickers, I am a "takfiri khariji." Why? Because I say promoting Halloween, holding degenerate dance concerts, editing school textbooks to make them LGBT friendly, and building Hindu temples are bad things. This makes my blood and the blood of all Muslims who are opposed to all this halal.
Actually, for the bootlickers, not criticizing rulers is not enough. You have to actively praise them.
This is why so many great ulama have been imprisoned and are facing the death penalty in Saudi. They are literally on death row. Not because they criticized the rulers, but because they failed to adequately praise them!
If you do not actively praise the rulers, that opens the door to criticize the rulers, which opens the door to takfiring the rulers, which opens the door to rebelling against the rulers, which is khuruj and makes you a kharijite, which makes you a dog of hell fire and your blood halal. So, not praising the ruler = you should be killed.
This is the logic. And they have made this into an issue of aqida. So if you do disagree with any of this, you are a deviant outside of Ahl al-Sunna.
The bootlicker logic also extends to Muslims protesting non-Muslim oppressors. You can see all the statements from this cult blasting Palestinians and Indians and Uyghurs for protesting against their oppressors.
According to the bootlickers, protesting against the kafir oppressors is absolutely haram and a deviance. Muslims should just be silent and allow Hindutva, the CCP, and Israel genocide them.
Why?
Because these gulf rulers have diplomatic relations with Israel, China, India, so anyone who criticizes these countries is indirectly criticizing the Muslim rulers, which leads to khuruj.
If you have any doubt about any of this, ask the bootlickers directly in twitter. See if they have any support for Palestinians, Indian Muslims, et al., fighting back. Ask them if it is a good thing for these countries to have diplomatic relations with regimes that are genociding Muslims.
They will either stay silent or they will say "muh Turkey does it too!" At which point you can say, "Turkey is wrong too, now answer the question, bootlicker."
The other point about bootlickers/madkhalis. They pretend like they represent all Salafis when in fact, they are a small cult that attacks all Salafis who don't agree with them and label them as takfiri kharijis, which, again, means their blood is halal.
Usually I wouldn't care about this group of losers and their barking, but unfortunately, some younger Muslims are not aware of the issue and are following them. This is directly tied to the issue of liberalism, secularism, feminism, because these rulers are pushing these ideologies onto the Ummah by force. The bootlickers in the West pretend like they oppose such ideologies, but in reality, they are proponents of them because they run defense for the secularization project in the Muslim world.
The recent Halloween stuff demonstrated this. You thought that Twitter akh always talking about Quran and Sunnah was a strong defender of deen? But oh no! Now he is saying Halloween celebration is just "wearing costumes" and unobjectionable.
They change their deen according to what the ruler says.
- Daniel Haqiqatjou
Who from the Salafis is saying that? I don't know of any Salafi going around saying Halloween is halal.
Madkhalis are enraged with Daniel for calling out Halloween celebrations in Saudi but have nothing to say about:
But @Omar del Sur is here to warn you against Daniel Haqiqatjou for calling this out. Basically, you are here to defend this.
Why can't you answer the question? What Salafis are going around saying Halloween is halal?
Madkhalis dont need to say it their actions speak loud enough. I have never seen you make a thread warning against these things but are suddenly warning against Daniel Haqiqatjou when he calls the Slave King MBS out for his liberalization project. That is why you made this thread at this time.
Salafiyyah was around way before MBS and will be around after. This person is attacking the correct minhaj. The people celebrating Halloween are not Salafis. Just because someone lives in Saudi doesn't mean they are a Salafi. This person is attacking the correct minhaj.
And that is part of the fundamental ridiculousness of what he is pushing. He talks all this against liberalism but he wants to deal with rulers in the kind of way promoted by liberal democracy.
No traditional monarchy is okay with people going around and inciting against the government. It is not the way of traditional societies. This idea that you have a right to do that is something that came from liberalism.
But beyond that- the fundamental ridiculousness is that he is supposedly taking on liberalism while fighting Salafiyyah and removing the Salafi view of how to deal with the ruler in place of the liberal Western view.
But the reality is... the way to protect against Westernization/liberalization is Salafiyyah. The reason those people were celebrating Halloween is not Salafiyyah but because of them not following Salafiyyah. If they were following Salafiyyah, none of them would have been celebrating it.
To sane people who live in the real world Madkhalis defend secularization and liberalization indirectly and you ironically are providing a great example of that to the readers of this thread and forum.
The beginning of this thread states very clearly that Halloween is haraam in Saudi and everywhere else.
And the innovated understanding of Islam that you are pushing is extremely deviated.
According to what you're saying here- because "Madkhalis" only say Halloween is haraam but we're not riling people up against the Saudi government... we are making Halloween halal? This is crazy. I have never even heard of any sect having this understanding.
There is no question that Halloween is haraam. But there is no obligation for me to rile people up against the Saudi government and for you types to go and insult us and call us "Madkhalis" and "bootlickers" just because we're not in a campaign to rile people up against the Saudi government... I don't know of any precedent similar to that except the khawarij. It is very similar to the khawarij.
and that is the other thing as well- this Haqiqatjou person is pushing people towards khawarij type ideology. that is extremely serious and Muslims should be very wary and avoid this kind of thing. Muslims are supposed to call to tawheed. the basis of Islam is tawheed. not stirring people up against governments and calling people "Madkhalis" because they don't want to destabilize Muslim countries by inciting people against the government.
what would happen if you treated the Somali government in the same way? this kind of thing would be a breeding ground for Al Shabaab recruitment.
what would happen if you treated the Somali government in the same way? this kind of thing would be a breeding ground for Al Shabaab recruitment.
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