Was Imam Ahmed Gurey a member of the Shadhili Sufi Order

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During one of battles prior to the Futuh al Habasha, namely the one Aqam, the battle cry of the Muslims was "Yahu" . Intially I was very confused by it because my only knowledge of the "Yahu" in Somali was as a simple interjection similar to things such "haahey" and it made no sense to me why the Imam would use such a seemingly meaningless and random phrase as a war cry. It was also strange that a meaningless exclamation would be so important that the author of the Futuh would highlight in the way he did and emphasise how it demoralized the Xabashi kuffar (edited)



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A couple months back a Harari hotep on this forum going by the username of @oogabooga in typical hotep fashion attempted to use this phrase and give it a harari spin like he did to many other Somali words and terms (e.g. he once tried saying the clan name mareexaan came from the Harari word Maraqa). Since I already debunked many of his other garbage theories I already had a large deal skepticism towards his etymology for the term Yahu but still it made more sense than the Somali etymology so I was at a loss
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This remained a nagging doubt in the back of my head until today were everything came into place today when I read Abu Al-Hassan Ali ibn Abdullah Al Shadhili's (the founder of the Shadhili Sufi order) famous prayer, Hizb Al Nassr or the Litany of Victory which he and his students used to recite before going into battle with the crusaders one of the lines is the exact same as the battle cry of the Adalites during the Battle of Aqam
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Sultan Sa'ad ad din of Ifat also had the famous Shadhili sheikh Abu al-Hasan Ali bin Omar Da’sin al-Qurashi in his court and married him to his own sister. Im not sure if the Shadhili order existed in Adal/Ifat before then but we can be sure it had a presence for atleast 100 years before the birth of Ahmed Gurey. (edited)


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I believe that either all or most of the Adalite nobility (Emirs, Garaads, and Malaqs) were members of this Sufi Order after being introduced to it in the reign of Sultan Sa'ad Ad Din by the Sheikh Abu Al Hassan Ali ibn Umar
 

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During one of battles prior to the Futuh al Habasha, namely the one Aqam, the battle cry of the Muslims was "Yahu" . Intially I was very confused by it because my only knowledge of the "Yahu" in Somali was as a simple interjection similar to things such "haahey" and it made no sense to me why the Imam would use such a seemingly meaningless and random phrase as a war cry. It was also strange that a meaningless exclamation would be so important that the author of the Futuh would highlight in the way he did and emphasise how it demoralized the Xabashi kuffar (edited)



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A couple months back a Harari hotep on this forum going by the username of @oogabooga in typical hotep fashion attempted to use this phrase and give it a harari spin like he did to many other Somali words and terms (e.g. he once tried saying the clan name mareexaan came from the Harari word Maraqa). Since I already debunked many of his other garbage theories I already had a large deal skepticism towards his etymology for the term Yahu but still it made more sense than the Somali etymology so I was at a loss
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This remained a nagging doubt in the back of my head until today were everything came into place today when I read Abu Al-Hassan Ali ibn Abdullah Al Shadhili's (the founder of the Shadhili Sufi order) famous prayer, Hizb Al Nassr or the Litany of Victory which he and his students used to recite before going into battle with the crusaders one of the lines is the exact same as the battle cry of the Adalites during the Battle of Aqam
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Sultan Sa'ad ad din of Ifat also had the famous Shadhili sheikh Abu al-Hasan Ali bin Omar Da’sin al-Qurashi in his court and married him to his own sister. Im not sure if the Shadhili order existed in Adal/Ifat before then but we can be sure it had a presence for atleast 100 years before the birth of Ahmed Gurey. (edited)


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I believe that either all or most of the Adalite nobility (Emirs, Garaads, and Malaqs) were members of this Sufi Order after being introduced to it in the reign of Sultan Sa'ad Ad Din by the Sheikh Abu Al Hassan Ali ibn Umar


Good find. I have heard Somalis wail out using ''Yaahuu'' a lot.

I also remember another poster ask about it as well, but this explains it @Aurelian

Even on this thread from another site when you sear, one of the explanations given for it are just nonsensical

Yaahu originates from the Yahood (jew),
:what1:
 
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Good find. I have heard Somalis wail out using ''Yaahuu'' a lot.

I also remember another poster ask about it as well, but this explains it @Aurelian

Even on this thread from another site when you sear, one of the explanations given for it are just nonsensical


:what1:
It could or not. Maybe it's just a similar sounding words.
 
Typically when Somalis say “Yahu” they’re spooked or weirded out by something, that could partially give clues as to the original meaning of the word in Somali. The Yahu being exclaimed by the troops during the battle has to obviously mean something else.

The sufi theory posited by @Khaem is interesting and may have some truth to it. But Allahu A’lam.
 
During one of battles prior to the Futuh al Habasha, namely the one Aqam, the battle cry of the Muslims was "Yahu" . Intially I was very confused by it because my only knowledge of the "Yahu" in Somali was as a simple interjection similar to things such "haahey" and it made no sense to me why the Imam would use such a seemingly meaningless and random phrase as a war cry. It was also strange that a meaningless exclamation would be so important that the author of the Futuh would highlight in the way he did and emphasise how it demoralized the Xabashi kuffar (edited
stop pretending you're reinventing the wheel.

You should show some appreciation.

Everything you posted was mine.

All you did was take the sewing thread and then make the dress bigger by adding some extra details .

This was a respond from : Maakhri from dhahar on Apr 22, 2024 to oogabooga who asked :

oogabooga said:
then tell me what the war chant “Yahu, Yahu” means?
This was a my respond Maakhri from dhahar on Apr 22, 2024 to oogabooga :

Yahu Yahu ياهو ياهو ” is the name of God in the Hebrew language .

The god's name was written in paleo-Hebrew as 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄 ( יהוה‎ in block script), transliterated as YHWH; modern scholarship has reached consensus to transcribe this as "Yahweh". The shortened forms "Yeho-", "Yahu-" .

The name YHWH may be derived from a verb that means "to be", "to exist", "to cause to become", or "to come to pass".

The equivalent of this word ( YHWH יהוה‎ يهوه ) is the Somali linguistic root ( ahaw ) : yahay, tahay ....

benjamin netanyahu is the prime minister of Israel .
Yahu means God .
netanyahu
means " Yahu gave / God gave " .
in Somali language it would be " yaho nasiiyey " .

Wattam is an ancient linguistic linguistic phenomenon that transforms the letter “ s / sh ” into the letter “ T ” or vice versa.
n=l ,
Somali word " lasiin " = the Hebrew word " nataan " .

" نَتَان ياهو " تعني " عطاء ياهو " ، أو بمعنى آخر بمعنى آخر " عطاء الله "
And this was the video I provided back then :

الله ياهو ياهو يا ساداتي | الطريقة العلية القادرية الوليانية | الحضرة القادرية​




I am teaching people to be honest and not to steal the efforts of others.
Plagiarism is unethical .
 
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Khaem

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stop pretending you're reinventing the wheel.

You should show some appreciation.

Everything you posted was mine.

All you did was take the sewing thread and then make the dress bigger by adding some extra details .

This was a respond from : Maakhri from dhahar on Apr 22, 2024 to oogabooga who asked :


This was a my respond Maakhri from dhahar on Apr 22, 2024 to oogabooga :


And this was the video I provided back then :

الله ياهو ياهو يا ساداتي | الطريقة العلية القادرية الوليانية | الحضرة القادرية​




I am teaching people to be honest and not to steal the efforts of others.
Plagiarism is unethical .
No one is copying your rambling I actually used a logical explanation tying into the history of Sufi orders in Adal while you were rambling about Netanyahu and Yahweh. You've never posted anything thats even made a modicum of sense much less some thing I'd want to copy.

You posted videos of stupid Arabs doing some rituals in a masjid while I'm talking about Adal sultanate. You never once even mentioned Ahmad Gurey in your posts on it. Which was the majority of this thread.
 

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