We have no claim to Ancient Egypt

[Apollo]

so they eventually melted into the rest of the mixed egyptians/nilotic community in north sudan and south Egypt.

and also what is paleolithic honer i thought nobody lived thier

Palaeolithic natives did live there, more densely on the Ethiopian highlands (more resources), less densely on the Afar/Somali part of the Horn.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Palaeolithic natives did live there, more densely on the Ethiopian highlands (more resources), less densely on the Afar/Somali part of the Horn.

Are there any pure paleolithic horn africans left?

 

[Apollo]

Are there any pure paleolithic horn africans left?

No, and also the Somali version will not genetically be the same as those who lived in Ethiopia. You will have to wait for ancient bones from the Eastern Horn for that component to show up.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

No, and also the Somali version will not genetically be the same as those who lived in Ethiopia. You will have to wait for ancient bones from the Eastern Horn for that component to show up.

So... We Wuz Sudanese and shieet?

 

[Apollo]

So... We Wuz Sudanese and shieet?

Basically, yeah, proto-Beja and sheeit (before the Beja mixed even more with Nubians, Copts, and then Islamic-era Arabs).

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Basically, yeah, proto-Beja and sheeit (before the Beja mixed even more with Nubians, Copts, and then Islamic-era Arabs).

This is kind of unrelated but...
Is the macawiis a cushitic thing or did we steal it fron India? A lot of people say it's Indian but all other cushitic ethnic groups wear it traditionally, including groups such as the Sidama and Oromo who never traded with Indian in tell very recently.

 

[Apollo]

This is kind of unrelated but...
Is the macawiis a cushitic thing or did we steal it fron India? A lot of people say it's Indian but all other cushitic ethnic groups wear it traditionally, including groups such as the Sidama and Oromo who never traded with Indian in tell very recently.

A long trail of cultural appropriation.

Indians went to Indonesia/Malaysia brought the macawiis there and made them Hindu (on Bali they are still Hindu).

Yemenites then went to Indonesia/Malaysia, traded with them, made them Muslim and got the Macawiis from Malays.

The version worn by Yemenis & Somalis is from Indonesia.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

A long trail of cultural appropriation.

Indians went to Indonesia/Malaysia brought the macawiis there and made them Hindu (on Bali they are still Hindu).

Yemenites then went to Indonesia/Malaysia, traded with them, made them Muslim and got the Macawiis from Malays.

The version worn by Yemenis & Somalis is from Indonesia.

Oh. So does that mean we have our own version and did not steal the macawiis from Indians?

 

[Nilotufian]

A long trail of cultural appropriation.

Indians went to Indonesia/Malaysia brought the macawiis there and made them Hindu (on Bali they are still Hindu).

Yemenites then went to Indonesia/Malaysia, traded with them, made them Muslim and got the Macawiis from Malays.

The version worn by Yemenis & Somalis is from Indonesia.

I swear Maasai niggas wear them too.

 

[Apollo]

I swear Maasai niggas wear them too.

They changed the colour pattern, but they got it from Swahili traders who got it from Yemenis.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

The Somalis & other Horners that claim Ancient Egyptians came from the Horn need to stop embarrassing themselves. Genetic studies have confirmed that Ancient Egyptians are North African/Eurasian and are closely related to their fellow North Africans, the Amazigh. The Coptic people & other Modern Egyptians are the truest representation & the true descendants of Ancient Egyptians.

Plus, the name "Kemet" was in reference to the black soil of their land, not the people.


The only differences between Ancient & Modern Egyptians are:

1. Modern Egyptians, especially the Muslim ones carry some Madow/sub-Saharan admixture, whereas their Coptic countrymen did not mix at all & retained the pure Egyptian blood. The Ancient Egyptians lacked any Madow admixture, since it was forbidden to mix in their culture with the Madows.

2. Arabisation (language & culture) & other cultural influences from Greeks & Persians e.g have been absorbed into Egyptian culture via Islamic/Arab conquest, Eastern Roman and Persian occupation.

i think we are a unique race, the greeks tell of a hisotry of a people called macrobans = menaing the tall ones or great in height,

when cambsys conquered egeyp 525 Bc or so we sent a letter asking the macroban king to surrounder and sumbit, the macroban king sendt a bow to the persian cambysis and told him if yuo are able to untight it then i will submit, if not careful what yuo wish for,

the persians send 50,000 that never came back,

the macrobans are described as liivng in the east, far east of the axumites and own all the way the indian oceans,s

we were also described as a very unique race where no other race look like them, tall, straight hair and very attarctive features, in fact descbred as the most hadsome people in the world and no poeple look like them,

tall, and straighrt facial features, could this be our ancestors, they dont know what they called thelves but the greeks names as macrobasn (macro menaing big, micro menaing small, called macro because of the height)

by the way the axumites already sumbited to Cyrus the great , Cambyses was the oldest son of curus the great and the habashi axumites used to go annually to persopolis and bow and bring gifts from axum,

but looks like our ancestors did not sumbit,

i always wondered what they terms thelves, by description they lived in todays Ogadeniya/northern somalia, central somalia, puntland etc,

adn the fact that they were tall and had very straight features and looked like no other race increases the chances of maybe proto cushtic poeple, this is 2500 years ago,

you cans see statues of greek state kings, axum, arabs, indians, caucuses, egyptian, libyan kings bowing in persopolis in iran and they all bow for persian kings but not cushtics, so most like we are able to fight back, heck even sudanese rulers were bringing gifts to Cambyses sons and grandsons which shows we were not conquered,


and the greeks called us macrobans, the one ones with great height, last time i checked we are taller than on average most races, specially habashi and other africans

hisorians says to this day thwey still do not know where king Cambyses 50,000 men army went or how they disappered after leaving egytian to karbash the macroban king

hisorians are still searching for the bodies,

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/06/mystery-of-disappearing-persian-army-finally-solved/

they say the soldiers on their way down may have been attacked by angry egyptians or even sandstorms, no one knows, an egptian claims to have disocvered the bones in 2009 but there is no evidnce, so many God proteted them , the macroans asthye may have worhsiped just one God, no one knows, only Allah knows,

the fact that we accepted islam so quickly with out being invaded by arabs and were muslims at the time of umar ibn khatab proves we praticed one monotheistic god, waaq,

do yuo see names for other gods in somali except waa1= God, i truelly belive our aanectors praticed a monotheistic religon and God proetcted us from inavsions,

also there have been 124,000 prohets (not rasoools) sent to all nations, so maybe we had a prohet amongst us unknown to us who may have guided us to the worship of God alone, monotheistic, but only 25 or so nabis are mentioned in the quran, and only Allah knows best,



there are letters umar ibn khattab (RA) got in his life time as the khalif showing people in todays somalia accepted islam because of their logic and wisdom, i truly think we had a monotheistic religion, unlike the ancient Indians or greeks who had thousands of gods made of stone or wood,

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Modern Egyptians are Ancient Egyptians, wether bit mixed now or not. Let's leave it at that, but I don't agree with the Amazigh part the OP mentioned, totally different people.

Genetically, Amazigh and Ancient Egyptians are North African. They belonged in the same race.

Copts are a continuation of the Ancient Egyptians.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

No proof of an extinction event (the remainder is just an admixed population). Also, who is to say Nilosaharan's all looked like that. The contemporaries are all mixed with Niger-Congo peoples too (no such thing as 100 percent proto-Nilosaharan any more). By posting those photos you're begging to be a rape baby from two unattractive groups. Hook nose and blick, aren't getting you Somali buddy.

Genetics don't lie. We are a combination of Caucasoid North Africans that mixed with an extinct East Sub-Saharan African population, the closest representation of those extinct Sub-Saharan Africans are today's Nilotes.

Just accept reality and move on.

 

[Apollo]

Genetics don't lie. We are a combination of Caucasoid North Africans that mixed with an extinct East Sub-Saharan African population, the closest representation of those extinct Sub-Saharan Africans are today's Nilotes.

Just accept reality and move on.

Nilotes have mixed with populations from the Central African Republic in South Sudan and with Bantus in Uganda and Kenya.

The modern-day Nilotes are not our ancestors.

 

[Sophisticate]

@SOMALI GENERAL

Negroid and Caucasoid don't exist in my vocabulary. Nilotes are mixed. No such thing as a pure one anymore. I wouldn't use them as an example of proto-Nilosaharan. Nor would I use contemporary North Africans as an example of Ancient Levantines. They look busted now from too much black shaah, kubos and ful consumption.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Nilotes have mixed with populations from the Central African Republic in South Sudan and with Bantus in Uganda and Kenya.

The modern-day Nilotes are not our ancestors.

Never claimed Modern Nilotes are our ancestors.

Keyword is "closest".

 

[Apollo]

Never claimed Modern Nilotes are our ancestors.

Keyword is "closest".

Shared ancestry does not equal being ancestral.

 

[Rocca Littorio]

@Apollo there is a difference between Ptolemaic Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Egyptian rulers before them. The Ptolemies were a Greek family that was the last ruling dynasty of Egypt and included iconic rulers such as Cleopatra. Before them, were normal non-Mediterranean Egyptians.

Tutankhamun, Hatshepsut (who was from Punt), Ramses etc. were all examples of non-Mediterranean Ancient Egyptian rulers.

 

[Ameen]

Egypt had one of the richest cultlures of the world, now it's a third world shithole. f*ck arabs! Watch, these sand nigggers will try to destoy the pyramids one day.

 

[Apollo]

@Apollo there is a difference between Ptolemaic Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Egyptian rulers before them. The Ptolemies were a Greek family that was the last ruling dynasty of Egypt and included iconic rulers such as Cleopatra. Before them, were normal non-Mediterranean Egyptians.

Tutankhamun, Hatshepsut (who was from Punt), Ramses etc. were all examples of non-Mediterranean Ancient Egyptian rulers.

Those were Ancient Egyptians, not Greek elites. The best portraits available (Fayum mummy portraits) besides the busts of the pharaohs.

The Egyptian population hasn't changed over all those thousands of years.

The only major impact that happened was additional Sub-Saharan African admixture being brought to Egypt in modern times through the Trans-Saharan Slave Trade facilitated by the domestication of the camel and Berber/Arab traders (uh traitors).