We need a feminist revolution in our dhaqan

[Gambar]

I think Somali women should be grateful our culture isn't like Afghan, Arab paki Indian cultures which women are nothing but properties of men and even white culture which women are nothing more than sexual objects.

Some are trying to make it that way trying to emulate Arabs.

 

[Bielsa]

Look at all these strawmen. I thought you were better than this sxb.


I have already addressed this misconception you keep harping on about. Single parent households are exploding in Europe, with more and more women choosing to raise their kids alone because they "dont need no man" and the stats that demonstrate that fact were linked in that last thread and nothing more needs to be said. Most of these countries also have a population replacement problem and a collapsing fertility rate thanks to more and more people forgoing traditional relationships and replacing it with unadulterated hedonism. Your welfare states are completely unsustainable in pro-feminist society, forget a nation that isn't even industrialized.

And this fallacy of women having choice and being happier is easily refuted by the stats of the Divorce nation of the world that demonstrate married men and women are markedly less happy now with their marriages than were in the early 1970s.

You still haven't suggested any solution. You admitted the status quo is fractured so what do you suggest? More of the same stupid Somali dhaqan that isn't working?

I'd rather be a woman and a mother in liberal progressive Denmark than anywhere else in the world.

You MRA stance is shining through.

 

[waraabe]

Some are trying to make it that way trying to emulate Arabs.

They need to be thrown off buildings

 

[Jubba_Man]

You still haven't suggested any solution. You admitted the status quo is fractured so what do you suggest? More of the same stupid Somali dhaqan that isn't working?

I'd rather be a woman and a mother in liberal progressive Denmark than anywhere else in the world.

You MRA stance is shining through.

Then stay in Denmark. Nothing more needs to be said. You don't care for indigenous Somali values and culture, but instead want to import the ways of foreigners.

If I'm an MRA, then you're an SJW sxb. Have you officially joined BLM Denmark or whatever socialist backwater you're in yet? You feel oppressed by the Somali patriarchy and going to protest "ceeb" culture or whatever the hell they call it?

This is not to say there aren't things that need to be rectified. But, unlike you, I believe it should be done in a way that is consistent with the Islamic way of life, as do most Somalis. Your suggestions is nothing less than cultural imperialism and wouldn't even work for a non-industrialized society from a purely secular perspective.

 

[Kanye]

I think it needs a masculine revolution the men are the problematic ones

This is the only issue I have regarding gender discussions in the Somali community. You know women are also liable for the state Somali communities are in? Shifting everything on to men hasn't solved anything so far. There's no point going down that road man.

 

[Gambar]

They need to be thrown off buildings

It's the wahhabis. They created this back ward culture of being obsessed with what women wear (the hideous jilbaabs for examples). The Somali dhaqan is fine besides FGM and tribal lineage but tribal lineage is not something I think is important because the mother is always more influential.

 

[Gambar]

This is the only issue I have regarding gender discussions in the Somali community. You know women are also liable for the state Somali communities are in? Shifting everything on to men hasn't solved anything so far. There's no point going down that road man.

This is true, Somali habro are guilty parties too.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

It's the wahhabis. They created this back ward culture of being obsessed with what women wear (the hideous jilbaabs for examples). The Somali dhaqan is fine besides FGM and tribal lineage but tribal lineage is not something I think is important because the mother is always more influential.

"RIYADH, 4 September 2003 — One of the most remarkable among the many and varied tribal customs that survive in Saudi Arabia is one that forbids anyone at all seeing a woman’s face. In parts of the Al-Kharj region, not even a woman’s husband and children are permitted to see her face uncovered.

In interviews with Al-Kharj residents, Sayidaty, a sister publication of Arab News, heard that often the first time even a daughter sees her mother’s face is after the mother’s death.

“I always dreamt of seeing my mother’s face because I am a woman like her,” resident Hissa Al-Massareir told the magazine. “But because of customs and traditions in the family, this was impossible. It was only when my mother died that my dream came true,” she added."

http://www.arabnews.com/node/236771

So is this due to "wahhabis" or is it due to their desert culture they've retained since they were pagans?

 

[Gambar]

"RIYADH, 4 September 2003 — One of the most remarkable among the many and varied tribal customs that survive in Saudi Arabia is one that forbids anyone at all seeing a woman’s face. In parts of the Al-Kharj region, not even a woman’s husband and children are permitted to see her face uncovered.

In interviews with Al-Kharj residents, Sayidaty, a sister publication of Arab News, heard that often the first time even a daughter sees her mother’s face is after the mother’s death.

“I always dreamt of seeing my mother’s face because I am a woman like her,” resident Hissa Al-Massareir told the magazine. “But because of customs and traditions in the family, this was impossible. It was only when my mother died that my dream came true,” she added."

http://www.arabnews.com/node/236771

So is this due to "wahhabis" or is it due to their desert culture they've retained since they were pagans?

It's a mix of both.

Somali culture isn't one uniform culture but the major nomadic culture is miles ahead of dhegacaas. Somali men are not insecure like them.

 

[Bohol]

Feminism just like everything has bad side effects. Becareful what you wish for folks.

 

[Bahal]

Granted we're not as barbaric and savage as Indians and Arabs are to women but we still got problems. Not suggesting white women feminism but organic grassroots Somali feminism that caters specifically to Somali girls and women.

It's very popular to be anti feminist these days. Every tinpot YouTuber rants against feminism for subs.

Absolutely agree.

We should start with anti qabiil propaganda geared towards women who, let's face it, are totally ignored by the institution.

 

[dhegdheer]

f*ck indiginous somali values and culture why should i accept being treated like a xoolo.

f*ck the older habaryars joining in in their own oppression as well. Literally shooting themselves in the foot

 

[Bielsa]

Then stay in Denmark. Nothing more needs to be said. You don't care for indigenous Somali values and culture, but instead want to import the ways of foreigners.

If I'm an MRA, then you're an SJW sxb. Have you officially joined BLM Denmark or whatever socialist backwater you're in yet? You feel oppressed by the Somali patriarchy and going to protest "ceeb" culture or whatever the hell they call it?

This is not to say there aren't things that need to be rectified. But, unlike you, I believe it should be done in a way that is consistent with the Islamic way of life, as do most Somalis. Your suggestions is nothing less than cultural imperialism and wouldn't even work for a non-industrialized society from a purely secular perspective.

Lol. I'm a man.

It wouldn't work atm cos the masses are uneducated. That's part of the problem.

You previously admitted to admiring certain things about the Alt-Right. You're an uber conservative religious fundamentalist. "Consistent with Islamic way of life" kulaha. Good luck with that and see where it takes you.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Everything that's wrong with Somalia is because of the men. They started the war and they're still burning the flames of that war.


We need Caraweelo. I hope a rise of another caraweelo comes in 2017.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

f*ck indiginous somali values and culture why should i accept being treated like a xoolo.

f*ck the older habaryars joining in in their own oppression as well. Literally shooting themselves in the foot

I despise those old women. They're are the reason why these men think they can get away with treating women that way.

 

[Reign]

Everything that's wrong with Somalia is because of the men. They started the war and they're still burning the flames of that war.


We need Caraweelo. I hope a rise of another caraweelo comes in 2017.

Not going to happen because Somali women in Somalia are too miskeen and mind controlled. Thats what salafism did to the Somali culture post 90's.

 

[dhegdheer]

I despise those old women. They're are the reason why these men think they can get away with treating women that way.

Not going to happen because Somali women in Somalia are too miskeen and mind controlled. Thats what salafism did to the Somali culture post 90's.

It's both sad and infuriating.

Look @ this thread, these xoolo have a vested interest in keeping the status quo

 

[Gambar]

Everything that's wrong with Somalia is because of the men. They started the war and they're still burning the flames of that war.


We need Caraweelo. I hope a rise of another caraweelo comes in 2017.

Malaa they need their balls ripped.

 

[arawelo 2.0]

I think Somali women should be grateful our culture isn't like Afghan, Arab paki Indian cultures which women are nothing but properties of men and even white culture which women are nothing more than sexual objects.

always comparing your self to the bottom of the barrel. how isn't that insulting to you guys? instead of saying at least we aren't more qashin than we already are, why not aim to be better.

 

[OmarLittle]

Lol. I'm a man.

It wouldn't work atm cos the masses are uneducated. That's part of the problem.

You previously admitted to admiring certain things about the Alt-Right. You're an uber conservative religious fundamentalist. "Consistent with Islamic way of life" kulaha. Good luck with that and see where it takes you.

Dude, I agree and disagree with both ( @Jubba_Man ) of you - however stop calling him names like Alt-Right, you yourself come off as "far leftist" and I'm an Atheist by the way.