Well this is Me

[Apollo]

Is it possible this hypothetical possible pending speculative ancestor was benadiri admixed from the his maternal line so it doesn’t matter and the L is just a Neolithic coincidence

It isn't Neolithic man.

Male lineage L does not exist in Ethiopia and is completely absent from South Cushites.

South Cushites are a good time-capsule as they carry all the paternal lineages present in Somalia before the modern-era (E-M35 and T-M70). They don't have L, but they do have T.

Your L lineage is from modern-era migrations.

 

[Pastoralite]

Hold your horses this ain’t settled yet I refuse to acknowledge I have any benadiri cadcad DNA

I bet you can cook up a mean xalwo

 

[Samaalic Era]

Gaaljecel?

Arent Gaaljecel, Gardheere Samaale?

 

[MI]

It isn't Neolithic man.

Male lineage L does not exist in Ethiopia and is completely absent from South Cushites.

South Cushites are a good time-capsule as they carry all the paternal lineages present in Somalia before the modern-era (E-M35 and T-M70). They don't have L, but they do have T.

Your L lineage is from modern-era migrations.

I’m quite literally holding this L. f*ck this DNA bullshit

 

[Apollo]

Arent Gaaljecel, Gardheere Samaale?

He isn't Cushitic paternally. His paternal line comes from a man who crossed the Indian Ocean by boat within the past few hundred years.

 

[Samaalic Era]

He isn't Cushitic paternally. His paternal line comes from a man who crossed the Indian Ocean by boat within the past few hundred years.

That raises a lot of questions. How did this L lineage make it to the Galbeed?

 

[Apollo]

That raises a lot of questions. How did this L lineage make it to the Galbeed?

The Sheekhaal clan has absorbed South-Central Asian men, and even some Berber men. They carry R1a (completely foreign) and E-M81 (while African, completely foreign and from the Maghreb).

Many of them in South Somalia claim Hawiye.

 

[MI]

That raises a lot of questions. How did this L lineage make it to the Galbeed?

It’s even weirder too since they don’t live anywhere close to the coastal towns and are desert nomads. There must be some kind of genetical Chinese whispers game behind this all the way there

 

[Apollo]

It’s even weirder too since they don’t live anywhere close to the coastal towns and are desert nomads. There must be some kind of genetical Chinese whispers game behind this all the way there

Sheekhaals live inland and have many non-Somali paternal lineages. Most likely this is how you got it. There are R1as from K5.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Sheekhaals live inland and have many non-Somali paternal lineages. Most likely this is how you got it. There are R1as from K5.

Are there Dir who also have this L lineage and other galbeed Galbeed clans? the Karanle Hawiye also live in the outskirts of Somali Galbeed aswell

 

[Apollo]

Are there Dir who also have this L lineage and other galbeed Galbeed clans? the Karanle Hawiye also live in the outskirts of Somali Galbeed aswell

The Dir and Hawiye are not paternally related. The Dir are largely T-M70 (which is old school in Northeast Africa and not connected to Benadiris) while the Hawiye are mostly E-Y (native Horner lineage).

 

[Samaalic Era]

The Dir and Hawiye are not paternally related. The Dir are largely T-M70 (which is old school in Northeast Africa and not connected to Benadiris) while the Hawiye are mostly E-Y (native Horner lineage).

What about Hawiye,Darod and Isaaq?

 

[Apollo]

What about Hawiye,Darod and Isaaq?

Same lineages as the one mentioned above, more or less.

 

[Samaalic Era]

It’s even weirder too since they don’t live anywhere close to the coastal towns and are desert nomads. There must be some kind of genetical Chinese whispers game behind this all the way there

Are you Baadicade?

 

[MI]

Sheekhaals live inland and have many non-Somali paternal lineages. Most likely this is how you got it. There are R1as from K5.

Do you know of any studies done on Benadiri Y-DNA?

Are you Baadicade?

Jiidle.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Do you know of any studies done on Benadiri Y-DNA?



Jiidle.

Your the first Jiidle i've come across, which gobol do Jiidle live in?

 

[MI]

Your the first Jiidle i've come across, which gobol do Jiidle live in?

There’s some in Hiiran and to the south of that but most live in Ethiopia and NFD in Kenya. I have relatives from the clan in Djibouti and Banaadir though.

 

[Marquis]

Your the first Jiidle i've come across, which gobol do Jiidle live in?

Have you heard of Murule that live in Mandera County in Kenya? They are Jiidle.

Gugundhabe are very scattered which makes them look smaller than they are. They can be found in practically every region in South Somalia, they are one of the major Somali tribes in NFD and in Ethiopia they live in the Somali region and are found deep inside Oromia.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Have you heard of Murule that live in Mandera County in Kenya? They are Jiidle.

Gugundhabe are very scattered which makes them look smaller than they are. They can be found in practically every region in South Somalia, they are one of the major Somali tribes in NFD and in Ethiopia they live in the Somali region and are found deep inside Oromia.

How many branches are Gugundhabe? Like Gorgaate is HG,Abgaal,Dububle,Silcis etr
Also i never knew Gugundhabe were big in NFD

 

[MI]

How many branches are Gugundhabe? Like Gorgaate is HG,Abgaal,Dububle,Silcis etr
Also i never knew Gugundhabe were big in NFD

We’re pushing borders no matter where we go, lol. Hell, even where my Dad comes from, Mieso Woreda in Ethiopia, was 100% Oromo in the 50s/60s when we migrated with our cattle for new grasslands. Today they’ve displaced and killed half the Oromo inhabitants of that place and it’s a frontier. Oromos still sporadically try to reclaim it but it always ends in huge casualties for them.