What a twist LOL

[Heartbreakkid]

It's even banned on this site. Weird, wallahi. It’s not a derogatory term any more than timo jileec—it literally means the opposite and simply describes a hair texture more common among "pure" SSA people, just as Indians tend to have straight to wavy hair more often than we do, despite sometimes having a similar complexion. But yeah, some Somalis use it negatively due to their racist views toward other Africans, which has distorted its meaning to some non-Somalis in parts like the UK as something akin to the n-word. The real equivalent of that in our culture, though, is Adoon which literally means slave.

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[Heartbreakkid]

@Ashraf @Taintedlove
UK somalis made it a slur. I didn't even know what J***** was until I started interacting with Somali TikTok. Never heard that word irl.

I've even seen these mfs hop on TikTok lives and call random black people J*****.

Explaining to none somalis that J***** isn't a slur is pointless since we have a bunch of mfs using it in a derogatory way.

It’s not just UK Somalis. It’s literally UK Somalis and young fob Somalis who migrated to the west. The fobs who learned English are literally 10x worse than the UK ones. But 90% of the time it’s both of them.

 

[Heartbreakkid]

No, it became popular on the Internet. None in the UK said it in person or to people’s faces.

You’re not tapped in lol. UK Somalis were legit making UK drill rap songs calling people madows “J*reer”.

 

[Shimbiris]

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The word j*reer itself seriously just means afro-textured hair. Comparing it to n*gger is ridiculous. No one uses the n word in day to day normal English conversation to describe things but people will regularly use "timo j*reer" in a normal Somali conversation to describe even a Somali's hair texture. It's been morphed into something derogatory and a stand-in for Adoon for sure because of Somalis' attitude toward j-folks and the fact it's seen as a little too far and racist to use Adoon. They adopted the J word in the first place as a sneakier say of just saying Adoon.

And yes, I've definitely seen lots of people even on this site use Madow in a manner where I can just tell they want to say Adoon or the more sneaky J word. Don't play dumb now.

 

[NidarNidar]

Too many Somali are clout chasing s, I blame the parents, restrict that internet access, and take out the ul.

 

[Heartbreakkid]

The word j*reer itself seriously just means afro-textured hair. Comparing it to n*gger is ridiculous. No one uses the n word in day to day normal English conversation to describe things but people will regularly use "timo j*reer" in a normal Somali conversation to describe even a Somali's hair texture. It's been morphed into something derogatory and a stand-in for Adoon for sure because of Somalis' attitude toward j-folks and the fact it's seen as a little too far and racist to use Adoon. They adopted the J word in the first place as a sneakier say of just saying Adoon.

And yes, I've definitely seen lots of people even on this site use Madow in a manner where I can just tell they want to say Adoon or the more sneaky J word. Don't play dumb now.

stop describing what that word means we know what it originally means lmfao. That word gets used more for derogatory reasons amongst folks in the west than just descriptive reasons. There’s a reason why that word is banned and not madow. Madow isn’t used as a slur anywhere near….And if it ever becomes to that point, then that too becomes derogatory


“Nobody uses that day to day normal English conversation to describe people” not long ago that was case. Paki is commonly used to describe Pakistanis/South Asians in day to day conversation amongst people, but it’s a slur. And you saying “It isn’t a slur it’s just short for Pakistanis” does not change that fact. It’s called being disingenuous.

 

[Shimbiris]

stop describing what that word means we know what it originally means lmfao. That word gets used more for derogatory reasons amongst folks in the west than just descriptive reasons. There’s a reason why that word is banned and not madow. Madow isn’t used as a slur anywhere near….And if it ever becomes to that point, then that too becomes derogatory


“Nobody uses that day to day normal English conversation to describe people” not long ago that was case. Paki is commonly used to describe Pakistanis/South Asians in day to day conversation amongst people, but it’s a slur. And you saying “It isn’t a slur it’s just short for Pakistanis” does not change that fact. It’s called being disingenuous.

Are you denying that j*reer is a normal word used in day to day Somali speech? I've literally heard it used just within the last few days in conversations about hair... what's disingenuous about that, saaxiib? It's not the same as the n-word which was literally created to be a slur and doesn't have the same meaning at all. It's been morphed into something ugly because of Somalis' racism like how calling people "Blacks" has an uncomfortable feeling to it even though "black" is just a word used in day to day speech unlike n*gger. What's disingenuous about that or hard to understand?

You and I don't even misalign in overall views, ninja. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not anti-madow in any shape or form.