What has SSpot taught you/ how have you changed?

[Tawheed]

They defected, created Somali National Movement (SNM), left the country they served in for the past 20 years and so. in a mess. Those who defected at least returned and did something. But it looks like your "leaders" saw something else


Okay, Gamel Abdul Nasser,Anwar Sadat are they a gaal
Does the word gaal only apply to Siad Barre AUN


"During the first five years, Barre's government set up several cooperative farms and factories of mass production such as mills, sugar cane processing facilities in Jowhar and Afgooye, and a meat processing house in Kismayo. "
"Another public project initiated by the government was the Shalanbood Sanddune Stoppage: from 1971 onwards, a massive tree-planting campaign on a nationwide scale was introduced by Barre's administration to halt the advance of thousands of acres of wind-driven sand dunes that threatened to engulf towns, roads, and farm land.[32] By 1988, 265 hectares of a projected 336 hectares had been treated, with 39 range reserve sites and 36 forestry plantation sites established "

During the first four or five years of its existence, Siad Barre’s government made some significant achievements in terms of the socio-economic development of the country. His military and very oppressive regime had made some major contributions in this regard, foremost among them being the introduction of a written Somali language for the first time in our history – something that led to the improvement of Somalia’s education system and the reduction of illiteracy rates among its people. Another big contribution that was made during his reign was the enhancement of the country’s basic infrastructure, which resulted in the construction of an elaborate network of paved roads that connected the southern regions of the country with cities and towns thousands of kilometers away in places like Borama and Bossaso cities in the far northern regions. The regime also initiated some important agricultural projects, such as Libsoma and a huge irrigation project in the Bay/Bakol area. Besides, some efforts were exerted, albeit without much success, for creating several industrial establishments in the country.

Are those not fruits?


Siad Barre... You know what I ain't going to defend that.
But, other leaders do that to this day, are they not gaals. Or just because Siad Barre?

"In 1975 about 10 sheikhs/clerics (mostly young men) were executed simply because they said the new Family Law (Xeerka Qoyska), which decreed the equality of boys and girls in sharing their inheritances from their parents, and which the socialist regime had earlier promulgated, was not in conformity with the real teachings of the noble Islamic religion."

come on I never said he was gaal just that he's actions was that of a gaal and the only country with islamic laws I know of are saudi arabia

 

[FiftyPence]

You called a fellow muslim, a "Gaal", not only that, this person is dead.
So, even though you may have some feelings against him, can you not let a man be judged by Allah

So stop with the slander.

All your "presidents" enjoyed the fruits of the Siad Barre Administration, and then ran away and created some new fantasy when the say it was crumbling. Who is the real cowards now?


After what, 30 years, is it still Siad Barre fault

nope, but praising him is not it either.

 

[Calaf]

come on I never said he was gaal just that he's actions was that of a gaal and the only country with islamic laws I know of are saudi arabia

I am refering to @Al-Burcaawi yesterday post, where he refered to him as a gaal (christian)
Yes, he may have some bads, but why only look at that, how about the more positive aspects of his actions.

Almost all this development were in the south, the north was shat on completely. SNM was formed and said leaders defected due to oppression and since the quality of life vastly decreased after 1977. His regime decided to spread the new written language but they didn't make it.

Also don't deflect from the subject, last time I checked killing clerics for opposing an un-Islamic law is grounds for a rebellion Islamically.

Any proof or sources to show that
a) North was neglected, cause clearly there was some fruits from, Siad Barre
b) Any ayas, hadithes which states that it is grounds of rebellion islamically

YES, he killed clerics, but it that the only reason your hating on Siad Barre. No

I think it stems down deeper

 

[Helios]

I am refering to @Al-Burcaawi yesterday post, where he refered to him as a gaal (christian)
Yes, he may have some bads, but why only look at that, how about the more positive aspects of his actions.


Any proof or sources to show that
a) North was neglected, cause clearly there was some fruits from, Siad Barre
b) Any ayas, hadithes which states that it is grounds of rebellion islamically

YES, he killed clerics, but it that the only reason your hating on Siad Barre. No

I think it stems down deeper

He was an athiest dictator. Calaf there are sources of him telling the Europeans and Americans that if he could pray to Jesus and they'd give him military aid he would do it.

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[Tawheed]

I am refering to @Al-Burcaawi yesterday post, where he refered to him as a gaal (christian)
Yes, he may have some bads, but why only look at that, how about the more positive aspects of his actions.

come on would u tell the jews to look at how much hitler helped germany

 

[Calaf]

He was an athiest dictator. Calaf there are sources of him telling the Europeans and Americans that if he could pray to Jesus and they'd give him military aid he would do it.

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This was that extremist christian group, honestly, i will take that with a pinch of salt
He was Muslim as we know, he is dead now, AUN, that is it.

come on would u tell the jews to look at how much hitler helped germany

Hitler created the Autobahn and Volkswagen
Those everyday products you use! which benefited from Hitler

 

[Helios]

This was that extremist christian group, honestly, i will take that with a pinch of salt
He was Muslim as we know, he is dead now, AUN, that is it.


Hitler created the Autobahn and Volkswagen
Those everyday products you use! which benefited from Hitler

Was he the spawn of Satan? No, was he a typical African dictator? Yes

 

[Tawheed]

This was that extremist christian group, honestly, i will take that with a pinch of salt
He was Muslim as we know, he is dead now, AUN, that is it.


Hitler created the Autobahn and Volkswagen
Those everyday products you use! which benefited from Hitler

was he worse than al shabaab yes or no?

 

[Al-Burcaawi]

I am refering to @Al-Burcaawi yesterday post, where he refered to him as a gaal (christian)
Yes, he may have some bads, but why only look at that, how about the more positive aspects of his actions.


Any proof or sources to show that
a) North was neglected, cause clearly there was some fruits from, Siad Barre
b) Any ayas, hadithes which states that it is grounds of rebellion islamically

YES, he killed clerics, but it that the only reason your hating on Siad Barre. No

I think it stems down deeper

I am refering to @Al-Burcaawi yesterday post, where he refered to him as a gaal (christian)
Yes, he may have some bads, but why only look at that, how about the more positive aspects of his actions.


Any proof or sources to show that
a) North was neglected, cause clearly there was some fruits from, Siad Barre
b) Any ayas, hadithes which states that it is grounds of rebellion islamically

YES, he killed clerics, but it that the only reason your hating on Siad Barre. No

I think it stems down deeper

a) Somaliland as a whole received just under 7% of nationally disbursed development assistance under his regime. Let that sink in. 7%. That was in the late 1970s, before the north had any thoughts of rebellion.

Somaliland was also underdeveloped under that time, with a lot less schools and infrastructure than it has now. This is proven by the fact that only one of your mentioned "fruits" was in Somaliland. Somaliland was almost completely neglected while the south was flourishing, not to mention vote fraud before his rule that saw the village of Wanlaweyn officially have 100,000 more votes than the whole north.

The political marginalisation that majority of northerners felt was further exacerbated by economic deprivation, the north received just under 7 percent of nationally disbursed development assistance by the late 1970s,[44] as more than 95% of all development projects and scholarships were distributed in the south.[40]One example is cited by Hassan Megag Samater, the former director in charge of the Ministry of Education in Somaliland, he states that he had handed his post in 1966 with the northern region having "several hundred schools at all levels, from elementary schools to college. By the last year of the Barre regime, there was not a single school functioning at full strength

b)

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[Calaf]

was he worse than al shabaab yes or no?

no, at least he did not kill people in the name of islam. no he is not worse then AS

Was he the spawn of Satan? No, was he a typical African dictator? Yes

Dictator is a big word. I would rather use the word typical authoritarian ruler who wanted the benefit of the people.

 

[Tawheed]

no, at least he did not kill people in the name of islam. no he is not worse then AS

Dictator is a big word. I would rather use the word typical authoritarian ruler who wanted the benefit of the people.

so killing 50k is better than killing 10k?

 

[FiftyPence]

@The Bloody-Nine @Radical Canjeerorism I have Django and I would like to say that the film had a lot of plot twists. At the beginning I thought that the whole movie was about them finding the brittle brothers but then they killed them within 10 minutes in the movie. I would like to give this movie a 6/10.

 

[Radical]

@The Bloody-Nine @Radical Canjeerorism I have Django and I would like to say that the film had a lot of plot twists. At the beginning I thought that the whole movie was about them finding the brittle brothers but then they killed them within 10 minutes in the movie. I would like to give this movie a 6/10.

It's such a great way to subvert expectation while avoiding conventional writing tropes

So you gave it an 'okay' rating? Never knew you for the finicky type

 

[FiftyPence]

It's such a great way to subvert expectation while avoiding conventional writing tropes

So you gave it an 'okay' rating? Never knew you for the finicky type

As I get older, my attention span is fucking with me. I watch too many slavery films as well. If I watched this film at 15 maybe I would give it a higher rating.

 

[Odkac WRLD]

nobody wants to set foot in xamar sxb and he was a traitor

Kkk don’t speak ill of the dead, sxb.
By your logic, every president after him (including the current one) are also “traitors”.

 

[Radical]

As I get older, my attention span is fucking with me. I watch too many slavery films as well. If I watched this film at 15 maybe I would give it a higher rating.

I'd say it's great that you're more mature in your taste and not as easily impressed as your teenaged self

How old are you now?

 

[FiftyPence]

I'd say it's great that you're more mature in your taste and not as easily impressed as your teenaged self

How old are you now?

Just turned 22 during isolation. What about you?

 

[Tawheed]

Kkk don’t speak ill of the dead, sxb.
By your logic, every president after him (including the current one) are also “traitors”.

all of them are traitors

 

[Odkac WRLD]

all of them are traitors

Alright then.

 

[Radical]

Just turned 22 during isolation. What about you?

Same age lol, I hope you had a fun social distance birthday party