You are talking about the normal folks in PL but poppet like gaas is working against the government(his endless visits to Ethiopia, not paying troops on time, failed in security against ISIS)
What is the way forward for Puntland?
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You are talking about the normal folks in PL but poppet like gaas is working against the government(his endless visits to Ethiopia, not paying troops on time, failed in security against ISIS)
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And shacabka are mad about that, he will also probably not deliver on his promise of one man one vote.
Has anyone of you read the Puntland constitution?
The first provisional draft came out in 2008 when Mahmoud Muse Hirsi Boqor was President the Puntland Constitutional Review Committee was in work from 2007/2008. Initially the first draft was intended to be superceded by a second draft where the public could contribute before it was discussed by the cabinet who would in return put it before parliament for endorsement. We all know that it did not happen because time was short and by 08/01/09 a new government was elected.
What did the provisional first draft constitution of Puntland actually say?
Article 3
SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
1. Puntland State is part of Somalia; it is her duty to contribute to the establishment and
protect a Somali Government based on the Federal System.
2. The powers that Puntland State shall cede to the Federal Government of Somalia and the
rights that will be preserved shall be determined through negotiation.
3. Pending the completion of the Federal Constitution approved by a popular referendum,
Puntland State shall have the status of an independent State.
Puntland is hinting that only a popular referendum where all the Somali people take part are binding for it and therefore shall have the status of independent State.
Article 4
THE PEOPLE
1. All persons holding Puntland nationality constitute the people of Puntland.
Talk of a Puntland nationality here.
What did it say about Natural resources?
rticle 48
NATURAL RESOURCES
1. Puntland natural resources belong to Puntland people and can be exploited in conformity
with the Law.
This is saying that de facto Puntland is independent in status reaffirming Article 3 paragraph 3
2. The Puntland State is responsible for the protection and exploitations of the natural
resources.
3. The Puntland State may make agreements with national or foreign companies and give
them the exploitation of natural resources
4. The concession shall be approved by the House of Representatives and can not last for
more that twenty-five (25) years.
In 2012 Puntland by then a new hardline and competent government in charge succeeded to approve the redrafted provisional constution by a 472 strong delegation from all regions where it held a referendum thus approving the Puntland Constitution on the 18 April 2012 before a similar approval of a Somali wide constitution fir the FRS on 1 August 2012. This approved and retified constitution was the final draft and could be approved by a popular referendum or limited in scope through representation of delegation.
What did the referendum retified Puntland constitution actually say?
Well all the things the First draft said of the previous government established Constitutional Review Committee presented to President Mahmoud Muse Hirsi but with a annex or lifaaq termed “Marxaladda Kala Guurka". It has 141 articles and one annex named 'Phase of Transition' to a multi party state and popular elections.
It expanded on System of Goverment
4. Dawladda Puntland waxaa u bannaanaanaysa in ay dib u eegto arrimaha ku xusan
faqradaha 1aad, 2aad iyo 3aad ee isla qodobkan, haddii:
b. Soomaalidu ku heshiin weydo qaab-dhismeed dawladeed oo aan ka hooseyn
nidaamka Federaaliga ah.
t. Ay daba dheeraadaan daganaansho la’aanta iyo dagaallada ka aloosan qaybaha
kale ee Soomaaliya.
5. Mowqifka cusub ee Xukuumadda Puntland ka qaadato arrimahaas waxaa cod
saddex meelood laba (2/3) ku ansixinaya Golaha Wakiillada, ka dibna waxaa loo
qaadayaa afti, sida ku cad qodobka 140-aad faqradiisa 1aad ee Dastuurkan.
Puntland can reevaluate or revoke its position in regards to paragraph 1,2 and 3 if Somalis cannot agree of a system of governance which is not less than federal in structure or the problems, war and turmoil in Somalia prolongs on it needs 2/3 vote in parliament and a referendum.
“Marxaladda Kala Guurka“
The first provisional draft came out in 2008 when Mahmoud Muse Hirsi Boqor was President the Puntland Constitutional Review Committee was in work from 2007/2008. Initially the first draft was intended to be superceded by a second draft where the public could contribute before it was discussed by the cabinet who would in return put it before parliament for endorsement. We all know that it did not happen because time was short and by 08/01/09 a new government was elected.
What did the provisional first draft constitution of Puntland actually say?
Article 3
SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
1. Puntland State is part of Somalia; it is her duty to contribute to the establishment and
protect a Somali Government based on the Federal System.
2. The powers that Puntland State shall cede to the Federal Government of Somalia and the
rights that will be preserved shall be determined through negotiation.
3. Pending the completion of the Federal Constitution approved by a popular referendum,
Puntland State shall have the status of an independent State.
Puntland is hinting that only a popular referendum where all the Somali people take part are binding for it and therefore shall have the status of independent State.
Article 4
THE PEOPLE
1. All persons holding Puntland nationality constitute the people of Puntland.
Talk of a Puntland nationality here.
What did it say about Natural resources?
rticle 48
NATURAL RESOURCES
1. Puntland natural resources belong to Puntland people and can be exploited in conformity
with the Law.
This is saying that de facto Puntland is independent in status reaffirming Article 3 paragraph 3
2. The Puntland State is responsible for the protection and exploitations of the natural
resources.
3. The Puntland State may make agreements with national or foreign companies and give
them the exploitation of natural resources
4. The concession shall be approved by the House of Representatives and can not last for
more that twenty-five (25) years.
In 2012 Puntland by then a new hardline and competent government in charge succeeded to approve the redrafted provisional constution by a 472 strong delegation from all regions where it held a referendum thus approving the Puntland Constitution on the 18 April 2012 before a similar approval of a Somali wide constitution fir the FRS on 1 August 2012. This approved and retified constitution was the final draft and could be approved by a popular referendum or limited in scope through representation of delegation.
What did the referendum retified Puntland constitution actually say?
Well all the things the First draft said of the previous government established Constitutional Review Committee presented to President Mahmoud Muse Hirsi but with a annex or lifaaq termed “Marxaladda Kala Guurka". It has 141 articles and one annex named 'Phase of Transition' to a multi party state and popular elections.
It expanded on System of Goverment
4. Dawladda Puntland waxaa u bannaanaanaysa in ay dib u eegto arrimaha ku xusan
faqradaha 1aad, 2aad iyo 3aad ee isla qodobkan, haddii:
b. Soomaalidu ku heshiin weydo qaab-dhismeed dawladeed oo aan ka hooseyn
nidaamka Federaaliga ah.
t. Ay daba dheeraadaan daganaansho la’aanta iyo dagaallada ka aloosan qaybaha
kale ee Soomaaliya.
5. Mowqifka cusub ee Xukuumadda Puntland ka qaadato arrimahaas waxaa cod
saddex meelood laba (2/3) ku ansixinaya Golaha Wakiillada, ka dibna waxaa loo
qaadayaa afti, sida ku cad qodobka 140-aad faqradiisa 1aad ee Dastuurkan.
Puntland can reevaluate or revoke its position in regards to paragraph 1,2 and 3 if Somalis cannot agree of a system of governance which is not less than federal in structure or the problems, war and turmoil in Somalia prolongs on it needs 2/3 vote in parliament and a referendum.
“Marxaladda Kala Guurka“
Wtf are you saying? Stop beating around the bush, are u calling for secession or not?Has anyone of you read the Puntland constitution?
The first provisional draft came out in 2008 when Mahmoud Muse Hirsi Boqor was President the Puntland Constitutional Review Committee was in work from 2007/2008. Initially the first draft was intended to be superceded by a second draft where the public could contribute before it was discussed by the cabinet who would in return put it before parliament for endorsement. We all know that it did not happen because time was short and by 08/01/09 a new government was elected.
What did the provisional first draft constitution of Puntland actually say?
Article 3
SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
1. Puntland State is part of Somalia; it is her duty to contribute to the establishment and
protect a Somali Government based on the Federal System.
2. The powers that Puntland State shall cede to the Federal Government of Somalia and the
rights that will be preserved shall be determined through negotiation.
3. Pending the completion of the Federal Constitution approved by a popular referendum,
Puntland State shall have the status of an independent State.
Puntland is hinting that only a popular referendum where all the Somali people take part are binding for it and therefore shall have the status of independent State.
Article 4
THE PEOPLE
1. All persons holding Puntland nationality constitute the people of Puntland.
Talk of a Puntland nationality here.
What did it say about Natural resources?
rticle 48
NATURAL RESOURCES
1. Puntland natural resources belong to Puntland people and can be exploited in conformity
with the Law.
This is saying that de facto Puntland is independent in status reaffirming Article 3 paragraph 3
2. The Puntland State is responsible for the protection and exploitations of the natural
resources.
3. The Puntland State may make agreements with national or foreign companies and give
them the exploitation of natural resources
4. The concession shall be approved by the House of Representatives and can not last for
more that twenty-five (25) years.
In 2012 Puntland by then a new hardline and competent government in charge succeeded to approve the redrafted provisional constution by a 472 strong delegation from all regions where it held a referendum thus approving the Puntland Constitution on the 18 April 2012 before a similar approval of a Somali wide constitution fir the FRS on 1 August 2012. This approved and retified constitution was the final draft and could be approved by a popular referendum or limited in scope through representation of delegation.
What did the referendum retified Puntland constitution actually say?
Well all the things the First draft said of the previous government established Constitutional Review Committee presented to President Mahmoud Muse Hirsi but with a annex or lifaaq termed “Marxaladda Kala Guurka". It has 141 articles and one annex named 'Phase of Transition' to a multi party state and popular elections.
It expanded on System of Goverment
4. Dawladda Puntland waxaa u bannaanaanaysa in ay dib u eegto arrimaha ku xusan
faqradaha 1aad, 2aad iyo 3aad ee isla qodobkan, haddii:
b. Soomaalidu ku heshiin weydo qaab-dhismeed dawladeed oo aan ka hooseyn
nidaamka Federaaliga ah.
t. Ay daba dheeraadaan daganaansho la’aanta iyo dagaallada ka aloosan qaybaha
kale ee Soomaaliya.
5. Mowqifka cusub ee Xukuumadda Puntland ka qaadato arrimahaas waxaa cod
saddex meelood laba (2/3) ku ansixinaya Golaha Wakiillada, ka dibna waxaa loo
qaadayaa afti, sida ku cad qodobka 140-aad faqradiisa 1aad ee Dastuurkan.
Puntland can reevaluate or revoke its position in regards to paragraph 1,2 and 3 if Somalis cannot agree of a system of governance which is not less than federal in structure or the problems, war and turmoil in Somalia prolongs on it needs 2/3 vote in parliament and a referendum.
“Marxaladda Kala Guurka“
That was a response to the uninitiated who'd thought that Puntland somewhat was vague.
They seemed to miss the point of the thread.
They seemed to miss the point of the thread.
Did mudane Gaas his excellency had a one night stand with you? Did he bust a nut on your face and left? Is that why you act like a jealous chick forever mentioning his name and swinging from his ball sack.
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