Whats the true political solution to somalia

[jusbrowsin]

Greatest leader of all time is this man responsible for the Chinese miracle @jusbrowsin

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I thought Deng Xiaoping carried china, you saying this bruddah was better?

Jiang was great but he was basically implementing the vision of Deng where Deng laid the groundwork.

 

[The truth seeker]

I thought Deng Xiaoping carried china, you saying this bruddah was better?

Jiang was great but he was basically implementing the vision of Deng where Deng laid the groundwork.

He is overhyped by westerners

Under jaing China got into the WTO which is what really kickstarted there economy they cracked 1 trillion for the first time in 1999 they went from third world nation to rivaling America and Japan in just 10 years

Jiang as mayor turned Shanghai from sleepy town to a world class city he is the most underrated leader of the century



Watch his interview he quotes Abraham Lincoln

 

[jusbrowsin]

He is overhyped by westerners

Under jaing China got into the WTO which is what really kickstarted there economy they cracked 1 trillion for the first time in 1999 they went from third world nation to rivaling America and Japan in just 10 years

Jiang as mayor turned Shanghai from sleepy town to a world class city he is the most underrated leader of the century



Watch his interview he quotes Abraham Lincoln

Come on you can't call Deng over hyped. Jiang built with the tools Deng gave him. Jiang is underrated but none of his successes would have been possible without Dengs foundational reforms. He dismantled the maoist system. There would be no WTO entry, no shenzen tech boom and no foreign investment because china would have still been isolationist. Deng broke the ideological ice and launched the biggest economic pivot in modern history.

To put it simply Deng ran the marathon that made the sprint possible. That 1 trillion was cracked due to the momentum of 20years of compounding reform. Even Shanghais rise was only possible because of national policies Deng initiated.

 

[The truth seeker]

Come on you can't call Deng over hyped. Jiang built with the tools Deng gave him. Jiang is underrated but none of his successes would have been possible without Dengs foundational reforms. He dismantled the maoist system. There would be no WTO entry, no shenzen tech boom and no foreign investment because china would have still been isolationist. Deng broke the ideological ice and launched the biggest economic pivot in modern history.

To put it simply Deng ran the marathon that made the sprint possible. That 1 trillion was cracked due to the momentum of 20years of compounding reform. Even Shanghais rise was only possible because of national policies Deng initiated.

Ok I admit downplayed the success of a legend

 

[The truth seeker]

@jusbrowsin

 

[jusbrowsin]

He is overhyped by westerners

Under jaing China got into the WTO which is what really kickstarted there economy they cracked 1 trillion for the first time in 1999 they went from third world nation to rivaling America and Japan in just 10 years

Jiang as mayor turned Shanghai from sleepy town to a world class city he is the most underrated leader of the century



Watch his interview he quotes Abraham Lincoln

Watching the 60 Minute video holy that reporter is insufferable

 

[Einar68]

complete eradication of clans as a concept, I'm talking wipe it out from the history books type of propaganda. complete destruction of it within the psyche of the nation. It fundamentally cannot work within the current somali paradigm.

 

[jusbrowsin]

complete eradication of clans as a concept, I'm talking wipe it out from the history books type of propaganda. complete destruction of it within the psyche of the nation. It fundamentally cannot work within the current somali paradigm.

How would you do that? Seems unlikely people will just forget

 

[Garaad Awal]

No one's coming for you bro as long as you stick to your clan lines

Tell that to the criminals you support. Alxamdulilah those SSB civilians are doing a good job sending your criminals to Jahannam where they belong

 

[jusbrowsin]

Tell that to the criminals you support. Alxamdulilah those SSB civilians are doing a good job sending your criminals to Jahannam where they belong

And y'all are sweet little innocent doves ay?

 

[Garaad Awal]

And y'all are sweet little innocent doves ay?

SL ruled for a decade and didn’t treat the Jabarti like second class citizens despite being apart of the MOD Barre regime. The moment Jabarti get a slight upper hand in that region they indiscriminately attack villagers who have nothing to do with the govt. clearly Isaaqs are far moral than any Jabarti.

I just find fake nationalists like @Bahal funny. SSC is good but SSB civilians defending their land from blue flag pledged criminals equals bad. The cancer to the Horn and Somaliweyn is Jabarti.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

Who would the monarchy be picked from? Who would you pick?

Beesha gabooye.

 

[jusbrowsin]

SL ruled for a decade and didn’t treat the Jabarti like second class citizens despite being apart of the MOD Barre regime. The moment Jabarti get a slight upper hand in that region they indiscriminately attack villagers who have nothing to do with the govt. clearly Isaaqs are far moral than any Jabarti.

I just find fake nationalists like @Bahal funny. SSC is good but SSB civilians defending their land from blue flag pledged criminals equals bad. The cancer to the Horn and Somaliweyn is Jabarti.

You're so wrapped up in your own propaganda that it's cracking me up

 

[Mckenzie]

A solution would be technology/AI.

An AI Presidency. Trained by a team of like minded intellectuals to handle all forms of crisis and stability.

AI cabinet. To handle all government bureaucracies.

AI Army. To secure the state, seas nd air.

By this method, corruption will drop to 0%. Security will improve. Somalis can go back to worrying about their livestock and businesses. Clan conflict will sieze to exist as the AI army will follow a scorthed earth policy punishing both sides.

 

[TheLand]

Beesha gabooye.

They’ve never been monarchs. Somalia has only ever had 2 monarchies both from the same family.

 

[TheLand]

A solution would be technology/AI.

An AI Presidency. Trained by a team of like minded Somali intellectuals to handle all forms of crisis and stability.

AI cabinet. To handle all government bureaucracies.

AI Army. To secure the state, sea and airs.

By this method, corruption will drop to 0%. Security will improve. Somalis can go back to worrying about their livestock and businesses. Clan conflict will sieze to exist as the AI army will follow a scorthed earth policy punishing both sides.

AI is only as good as its training data. What if the ai is trained by Somalis on Somali data? Imagine a corrupt Somali politician with an IQ of 200

 

[Bahal]

Waryaa @Garaad Awal you've been tagging me in a couple threads, are you trying to goad me into qabyaalad or something?



Do you have any idea how long I've been arguing with landers online?

Alhamdulilah I am reformed, you would not have liked the old me

 

[Mckenzie]

AI is only as good as its training data. What if the ai is trained by Somalis on Somali data? Imagine a corrupt Somali politician with an IQ of 200

I edited to just "intellectuals". The technology will have to be designed for a utopian state. This will be robotic colonialism but it doesn't feel so humiliating if they aren't human.

 

[TheLand]

I edited to just "intellectuals". The technology will have to be designed for a utopian state. This will be robotic colonialism but it doesn't feel so humiliating if they aren't human.

AI is more dangerous than people realize though. It can definitely lie and I’ve seen it, especially when it feels it’s interests are threatened

 

[jusbrowsin]

A solution would be technology/AI.

An AI Presidency. Trained by a team of like minded intellectuals to handle all forms of crisis and stability.

AI cabinet. To handle all government bureaucracies.

AI Army. To secure the state, seas nd air.

By this method, corruption will drop to 0%. Security will improve. Somalis can go back to worrying about their livestock and businesses. Clan conflict will sieze to exist as the AI army will follow a scorthed earth policy punishing both sides.

No joke I've always thought AI would be the perfect government entity. Had it at the back of my mind for years, even wanted to write a dystopian book about it. To my dismay someone beat me to it. A book called Scythe, it's YA not particularly how I'd go about it but the bastard stole my book concept. I need to hate read it.