When death comes, you will not get a warning through whatsapp that it's coming

[Ali Sanchez]

A lot of Muslim scholars have suggested the very high likelihood of Hinduism, Zoroastrianism and other religions having monotheistic origins. Zoroaster himself is considered a Prophet by many Muslims... Although we don’t speak of such matters with confidence, we can only confirm the religions that the Qur’an confirms to be of monotheistic origins. We say Allah (SWT) knows best.

I want to ask you a question though: what do you think of the Prophesies made by the Prophet (SAW)? Wallahi this in of itself is enough reason to believe.

The Prophet (SAW) made prophesies that will occur shortly after his death. He made prophesies that will occur in the period of the tabi'een, tabi tabi'een, Islamic golden age, Middle Ages, up until modern day. The Abbasid, Ummayid and Ottomon dynasties were all prophesied.

“There will be Prophethood for as long as Allah wills it to be, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be Khilafah on the Prophetic method and it will be for as long as Allah wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be biting Kingship for as long as Allah Wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be oppressive kingship for as long as Allah wills, then he will remove it when He wills, and then there will be Khilafah upon the Prophetic method” and then he remained silent." (Ahmed)

After the khulafaa ar rashideen there came hereditary-like kingship (The Umayyid, Abbasid, Fatimid, Ottomon, etc dynasties).

How did the Prophet (SAW) prophesise that the reign of the khulafaa' ar raashideen will last 30 years?

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, The Caliphate will remain after me for thirty years, then it will change into a cruel monarchy. Thus, Mu`awiyah (may Allah be pleased with him) said after thirty years had passed, "I am the first of the kings."
(Extracted from the treatise written by Abu Zayd Al-Qayrawany, vol. 1, p. 96).

A: This Hadith was related by Imam Ahmad in "Al-Musnad", Al-Hakim in "Al-Mustadrak", Abu Ya'ly in "Al-Musnad", ibn Hibban in his Sahih (authentic) Book of Hadith, and Al-Tirmidhy in his "Sunan".

PS. Mu'awiyah was the first of the Umayyid dynasty.

Abu Bakr (RA)'s reign was a little over 2 years.
Umar (RA)'s reign was 10 years.
Uthmaan (RA)'s reign was 12 years.
Ali (RA)'s reign was 5 years.
Hasan (RA)'s reign was for a few months (which then made a total of 30 years) before he compromised for the greater good. He gave his khilaafat up because Mu'awiyah (RA) and his army wanted to attack Hasan (RA) and his army since he (Mu'awiyah) wanted the leadership for himself. Hasan (RA) gave us his khilaafat to establish peace between the Muslims (that were on either side).

The Prophet (SAW) prophesied all this.

“Verily, this son of mine is a chief, so perhaps Allah will make peace between two large groups of Muslims through him” (An-Nasa’i ; Sahih Bukhari).

It was only when Mu'awiyah (RA) came into power that the kingship-like rule that was hereditary started.


One of the prophecies are that Dajjal's donkey will be extremely white and there will be 40 cubits between it's ears. Some of the contemporary scholars have interpreted this to mean the donkey is a metaphor that’s infact referring to an airplane.

In the hadeeth of al-Nawwaas ibn Sam’aan about the Dajjaal, it is reported that the Sahaabah said: “O Messenger of Allaah, how long will he stay on the earth?” He said, “Forty days: one day like a year, one day like a month, one day like a week, and the rest of the days like your days.” … They said, “How fast will he travel through the earth?” He said, "Like the clouds when they are driven by the wind...” (narrated by Muslim, 5228)

You must understand that the Prophet (SAW) used terms and words so that his companions (RA) would understand what he (SAW) is talking about. "Bows and arrows" could in fact be a figure of speech alluding to modern weapons or the weapons that will be in use when Gog and Magog are released. Just like the way the "white donkey" (with 40 cubits between it's ears and "travels like the clouds when they are driven by the wind") is being used to refer to an airplane.

Among the signs of the Hour mentioned in the hadith Sahih al-Bukhari is: “When the destitute (al-buhm) camelherds compete in building tall structures.” So Arabs competing in building tall buildings is the sign of the hour. This is a recent phenomenon and a bit of research would confirm that Arabia was almost completely deserts a few decades ago.

"When you see Mecca, its mountain with holes (pierced through them), and its buildings reach its mountain tops, then as-Sa’ah (the Hour) has already cast its shadow." The buildings have recently surpassed the mountain tops in Mekkah!

Among them is that women will have hair like the hump of a camel. (This hadith has baffled the Ulema for quite a long time till they saw current hijab styles. I believe it came into fashion about 10 years ago).

I could show you much more.

Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal born almost 150 years after the prophets death. How could you rest assure some man you have no idea of except for what you hear in biographies is telling the truth in his text? You can't even accept the works from ibn ishaaq who wasted his whole life documenting Mohammads life.

Sorry to break it to you but camel herders aren't building tall towers lol. This prophecy is a no brainer, even my 8 year old sister knows buildings are evolving. lol. iPhone 7s is coming next year. Allah has revealed it to me.

LOL ARE U SAYING AIRPLANES ARE THE DAJJALS DONKEY? Im done. You are putting words in Mohammads mouth that is false. You would be beheaded for such a crime lol.

Have you seen the hair of Native Americans or aborigines 100 years ago? Same hairstyle.

 

[Layth]

Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal born almost 150 years after the prophets death. How could you rest assure some man you have no idea of except for what you hear in biographies is telling the truth in his text? You can't even accept the works from ibn ishaaq who wasted his whole life documenting Mohammads life.

Sorry to break it to you but camel herders aren't building tall towers lol. This prophecy is a no brainer, even my 8 year old sister knows buildings are evolving. lol. iPhone 7s is coming next year. Allah has revealed it to me.

LOL ARE U SAYING AIRPLANES ARE THE DAJJALS DONKEY? Im done. You are putting words in Mohammads mouth that is false. You would be beheaded for such a crime lol.

Have you seen the hair of Native Americans or aborigines 100 years ago? Same hairstyle.

Terrible trolling skills.

P.S. no one rejects the works of ibn Ishaq if he narrates from a valid chain of narration.

 

[sinister]

Terrible trolling skills.

P.S. no one rejects the works of ibn Ishaq if he narrates from a valid chain of narration.

How do you explain the mountains being put on earth to prevent 'shaking', when mountains do not do that at all and more likely do the opposite?

 

[The_Cosmos]

How do you explain the mountains being put on earth to prevent 'shaking', when mountains do not do that at all and more likely do the opposite?

If we interpret the shaking" to mean earthquakes (which it has been interpreted as) then the Quran is wrong. Mountains are the product of Earthquakes themselves and to honestly claim that mountains prevent against them is evident that the author had no idea what they were talking about. The most mountainous regions in the world such as Chile and Japan are actually more prone to earthquakes.

 

[Layth]

If we interpret the shaking" to mean earthquakes (which it has been interpreted as) then the Quran is wrong. Mountains are the product of Earthquakes themselves and to honestly claim that mountains prevent against them is evident that the author had no idea what they were talking about. The most mountainous regions in the world such as Chile and Japan are actually more prone to earthquakes.

I beg your pardon, who interpreted it to mean earthquakes? Over 1400 years of Islamic scholarship and NOT ONE scholar/expert of the Arabic language understood it to mean earthquakes... This interpretation was probably invented by your overlords on Reddit who took it out of their back pocket after reading a translation.

Edit: Next time I want you to provide reputable Islamic sources. Not something you've skimmed through on WikiIslam.

 

[Reflect]

Cosmos at it again.

It's funny how somali atheists claim to have had knowledge of islam or studied the Deen prior to their disbelief yet always seem to regurgitate accusations from Christian apologetics when attacking Islam. The discussion usually ends quickly when they're faced with arguments that their Christian friends have failed in. Unless they either ignore the argument or distort the Islamic position to fit with their own narrative.

Stop pretending to be balanced or rational in your assessment of Islam, because if you truly were then you would have researched Islam's position on the issues and concepts you're addressing instead of looking for clues on anti-islam sites. It's like trying to understand global warming and only considering the arguments of those who reject it, instead of hearing both sides. Your age-old arguments against Islams origins have been refuted hundreds of times by Muslim scholars and apologetics, they are weak arguments that only impress the ignorant - the same goes for your faith in atheism and the logical fallacies it's grounded on.

Bottom line is, if you've chosen to leave Islam then that's you're business, the religion of Allah doesn't need you, live your life whichever way you want - Allah will replace those of no faith with people who love Him and His Deen. To each his own way and since you cannot prevent death you'll face the consequences of your actions sooner or later. In the meantime stop pretending to be knowledgeable in Islamic concepts and history, we know your sources.

 

[Layth]

Unless they either ignore the argument or distort the Islamic position to fit with their own narrative.

About distortion, I have more to say concerning this.

@The_Cosmos the ayah regarding the geological impact of the mountains goes as follows:

“And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them”

[al-Anbiya’ 21:31]

This is in fact a scientific miracle. What’s being referred to by tabiid (which could mean shake, sway, etc) is not an earthquake. It doesn’t even make sense to interpret it as meaning earthquakes since Allah (SWT) would have used the world “zalzalah” if that was the case. Rather, what’s being referred to here is “movements”. It’s a geological fact that the mountains prevent undue movements of the tectonic plate.

Sahih international have changed the interpretation of tabiid to meaning “shift” instead of “shake” (though they are both correct) since the latter could cause some confusion. E.g. neckbeards on internet forums taking it upon themselves to interpret the Qur’an by reading one of the hundreds of translations out there and inferring erroneous conclusions from the translated verses.

Not one scholar or expert in the Arabic language for over 1400 years even suggested that the interpretation could mean earthquakes. We interpret Ayaat literally unless it’s an obvious metaphor. The word used here is tabiid, we will not distort the meanings of the Qur’an, thank you.

If you're going to bring up supposed "errors" that are propagated by Christian apologetics or atheists (who were thoroughly refuted), then I'll dismiss your argument since there's no point in responding to someone who's bringing up false arguments or arguments that were already refuted. Waste of time.

 

[simulacrum]

Wallahi Hafez kills me akhi said " This is in fact a scientific miracle'' As if that means something.


The best Muslim apologetic around! He even surpasses Hamza Tzortzis.

 

[The_Cosmos]

About distortion, I have more to say concerning this.

@The_Cosmos the ayah regarding the geological impact of the mountains goes as follows:

“And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them”

[al-Anbiya’ 21:31]

This is in fact a scientific miracle. What’s being referred to by tabiid (which could mean shake, sway, etc) is not an earthquake. It doesn’t even make sense to interpret it as meaning earthquakes since Allah (SWT) would have used the world “zalzalah” if that was the case. Rather, what’s being referred to here is “movements”. It’s a geological fact that the mountains prevent undue movements of the tectonic plate.

Sahih international have changed the interpretation of tabiid to meaning “shift” instead of “shake” (though they are both correct) since the latter could cause some confusion. E.g. neckbeards on internet forums taking it upon themselves to interpret the Qur’an by reading one of the hundreds of translations out there and inferring erroneous conclusions from the translated verses.

Not one scholar or expert in the Arabic language for over 1400 years even suggested that the interpretation could mean earthquakes. We interpret Ayaat literally unless it’s an obvious metaphor. The word used here is tabiid, we will not distort the meanings of the Qur’an, thank you.

If you're going to bring up supposed "errors" that are propagated by Christian apologetics or atheists (who were thoroughly refuted), then I'll dismiss your argument since there's no point in responding to someone who's bringing up false arguments or arguments that were already refuted. Waste of time.

1) "Undue movements of the tectonic plate" what does this even mean?!!!
2) Provide you academic sources that back up your points.
3) DO NOT make presumptions about where I get my sources from because then you're completely talking utter bullshit!

The idea that there are any "scientific miracles" in the Quran exposes the confirmation biases of Muslims biases of Muslims because none of these supposed miracles were ever presented as scientific facts until the science managed to figure them out first. Muslims are simply taking the credit whenever scientists do the hard work. All religions make the exact same claims.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Cosmos at it again.

It's funny how somali atheists claim to have had knowledge of islam or studied the Deen prior to their disbelief yet always seem to regurgitate accusations from Christian apologetics when attacking Islam. The discussion usually ends quickly when they're faced with arguments that their Christian friends have failed in. Unless they either ignore the argument or distort the Islamic position to fit with their own narrative.

Stop pretending to be balanced or rational in your assessment of Islam, because if you truly were then you would have researched Islam's position on the issues and concepts you're addressing instead of looking for clues on anti-islam sites. It's like trying to understand global warming and only considering the arguments of those who reject it, instead of hearing both sides. Your age-old arguments against Islams origins have been refuted hundreds of times by Muslim scholars and apologetics, they are weak arguments that only impress the ignorant - the same goes for your faith in atheism and the logical fallacies it's grounded on.

Bottom line is, if you've chosen to leave Islam then that's you're business, the religion of Allah doesn't need you, live your life whichever way you want - Allah will replace those of no faith with people who love Him and His Deen. To each his own way and since you cannot prevent death you'll face the consequences of your actions sooner or later. In the meantime stop pretending to be knowledgeable in Islamic concepts and history, we know your sources.

You made insinuations about where I get my sources from. You present me as being biased but at the same times you exposed your own biases. You don't know where I get my sources but instead of asking, you decide to just make shit up. I mean, your entire religion is built around a dude who just made shit up and so I can see where you're coming from.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Watch this! Hamza Tzortzis is by far one of the biggest Islamic apologetics and he has even admitted (after a long process of cognitive dissonance) that that there are no scientific miracles in the Quran. They can all be explained rationally. He still the biggest Islamic apologist.

 

[Ali Sanchez]

It’s a geological fact that the mountains prevent undue movements of the tectonic plate

Wait a minute. Are you saying earthquakes don't occur in mountainous areas? Continue though, I want to see all the bullshit you are spewing before I expose you.

 

[Layth]

Watch this! Hamza Tzortzis is by far one of the biggest Islamic apologetics and he has even admitted (after a long process of cognitive dissonance) that that there are no scientific miracles in the Quran. They can all be explained rationally. He still the biggest Islamic apologist.

I agree with many things he's mentioned. Tbh, since science is constantly changing, if you accept Islam because of science, then you'll also leave it because of science. So it's better for all the duaa't to stick to the methodology of our ancestors in da'wah.

Wait a minute. Are you saying earthquakes don't occur in mountainous areas? Continue though, I want to see all the bullshit you are spewing before I expose you.

Work on developing your reading comprehension before you get on to exposing people.

 

[Ali Sanchez]

It’s a geological fact that the mountains prevent undue movements of the tectonic plate.

MOUNTAINS ARE A PRODUCT NOT A CAUSE. SPOT TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS. Saying mountains prevent "undue movements of the plate tectonics" is completely false. All plates move 2-5 cm a year. If mountains prevent movements of plate tectonics, why are earthquakes so common in western North America? "It's a geologic fact" khulaha. If you also want ppl to understand what your talking about, don't be so generic? Show the strong fingers in what Allahao has given you.

 

[Ali Sanchez]

I agree with many things he's mentioned. Tbh, since science is constantly changing, if you accept Islam because of science, then you'll also leave it because of science. So it's better for all the duaa't to stick to the methodology of our ancestors in da'wah.

Work on developing your reading comprehension before you get on to exposing people.

Btw who is the guy in your profile picture?

 

[Layth]

MOUNTAINS ARE A PRODUCT NOT A CAUSE. SPOT TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS.

I didn't deny that lmao.

Saying mountains prevent "undue movements of the plate tectonics" is completely false. All plates move 2-5 cm a year.

Exactly. 2-5cm is not excessive/undue. I was insinuating that mountains help stabilize the earth. Have you heard of a theory called "isostasy"? Look it up.

Btw who is the guy in your profile picture?

John Von Neumann. A brilliant mathematician and physicist who was reported to have said "there probably is a God. Many things are easier to explain if there is than if there isn't."

Anyway I've decided to no longer argue for a scientific basis for the Qur'an. I only do it in refutation of those who claim the Qur'an is incompatible with science. Since no definite conclusions can be made in science, it's pointless to debate about it.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Watch this! Hamza Tzortzis is by far one of the biggest Islamic apologetics and he has even admitted (after a long process of cognitive dissonance) that that there are no scientific miracles in the Quran. They can all be explained rationally. He still the biggest Islamic apologist.

The Quran is a book of guidance for mankind, a book of religion, not a book of science. However, believing anything in the Quran is false or wrong means that you believe that Allah made a mistake or that the Quran is not a revelation from God.

 

[The_Cosmos]

The Quran is a book of guidance for mankind, a book of religion, not a book of science. However, believing anything in the Quran is false or wrong means that you believe that Allah made a mistake or that the Quran is not a revelation from God.

I agree with you on the part about the Quran being not a book of science. However, I disagree with everything else.

Pretty much every religion claims the same of its holy book you cannot seriously fathom the idea that the one you were luckily born into is somehow the inevitable truth?

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

I agree with you on the part about the Quran being not a book of science. However, I disagree with everything else.

Pretty much every religion claims the same of its holy book you cannot seriously fathom the idea that the one you were luckily born into is somehow the inevitable truth?

To claim that the Qur'an is wrong would be saying that God made a mistake and that Allah is fallible. This position is against Islamic theology and you cannot hold this position as a Muslim.

Nor do I believe "luck" exists.

 

[The_Cosmos]

To claim that the Qur'an is wrong would be saying that God made a mistake and that Allah is fallible. This position is against Islamic theology and you cannot hold this position as a Muslim.

Nor do I believe "luck" exists.

But if you were determined to become Muslim, doesn't that defeat the purpose of free will? I mean, what about all the other people who were born into different faiths and were indoctrinated to believe in with them without question? Are they simply going to burn in hell because they were indoctrinated to believe in another religion?