Where did some landers get all this Anti Somalinimo

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Exactly, MSB used national resources for clan interests to free his reer abti (Ogaden) which destroyed the union. He could've armed the rebels and supported them without direct war. He armed Djibouti rebels, Eritrean rebels, South Africans and so on. At the end of the day, The union won against Ethiopians but the war weakened and created mistrust against the union.

If he trained the rebels, armed and sent them highly trained SNA to join the rebels then the rebels would've won because Ethiopians were also fighting against each other But the war he declared on Ethiopia made the Ethiopians one enemy which was Somalis. The "Invasion" on Ethiopia made Somalia look rogue state which is why the Soviets and the west started supplying the Ethiopians.

When the rebels won they would've declared west Somalia as an independent state like Eritrea then Somalia would've trained them the army and supported them. then do the same with NFD after that Somalia, West Somalia, NFD would create a defense council where the three states protect each other. The Somalis would've been super powers of Africa But no thanks to idiots who thought a war was the best option.

Somaliweyne was a popular sentiment among the Somalis long before Barre went to war. Optics aside I'm not going to fault him for using a popular rallying cry to whip up support for the war. The central government at the time was already engaged in a low level insurgency in Ogaden and who knows how long it would take WSLF to reach the same success the Somali army did in months.

You're correct saying Barre failed us diplomatically and we couldnt overcome that. We lost because Castro wanted to punish Barre for his demeanor at the negotiation table and that he did.


I'm perfectly content knowing the government at the time tried to free their own people back then instead of living with the shame of not trying when the opportunity was there. The somali people in the contested region were truly free in those months when the fallen heroic soldiers fought for their emancipation.

Inshallah we will have another opportunity again and may Allah swt make it easier for the person in charge of it by not having them deal with a salty dude like Castro at the table
 

Agent 47

21st Divsion of Somali National Army
I just want Ogaden and NFD free. The Somali lands are being over run and. Being ethnically cleansed :(
Ogaden has the chance to be free once for all as an independent state. Ethiopia has been burning since November 2015 politically, economically and is getting unstable every single day after November 2015. Oromos, Amhara and other ethnic groups in Ethiopia are protesting and picking up arms against TPLF regime.

The Oromo liyuu police who are Tigray stooges don't even shoot at their fellow oromos and fight against the Ethiopian army If they shoot at oromos while they're there same goes for Amhara.

Ethiopia is facing Diplomatic crisis
Somaliweyne was a popular sentiment among the Somalis long before Barre went to war. Optics aside I'm not going to fault him for using a popular rallying cry to whip up support for the war. The central government at the time was already engaged in a low level insurgency in Ogaden and who knows how long it would take WSLF to reach the same success the Somali army did in months.

You're correct saying Barre failed us diplomatically and we couldnt overcome that. We lost because Castro wanted to punish Barre for his demeanor at the negotiation table and that he did.


I'm perfectly content knowing the government at the time tried to free their own people back then instead of living with the shame of not trying when the opportunity was there. The somali people in the contested region were truly free in those months when the fallen heroic soldiers fought for their emancipation.

Inshallah we will have another opportunity again and may Allah swt make it easier for the person in charge of it by not having them deal with a salty dude like Castro at the table
What the hell is "Somaliweyne":faysalwtf::damn::damn:

Inshallah the Ethiopians will lose:fittytousand: AGAIN
 

JamalNFD

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They have acidic tongues but at least the landers are an honorable foe. They are not like a certain group who booty dance for "nationalism" while at the same time having a history that includes stealing houses and raping little girls in mosques. Can you point to an example of landers ever doing anything like that? Even Darood had no problem sitting back and watching planes wipe the landers out. If I was born a lander, I'd support separation too.
 

Karim

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They have acidic tongues but at least the landers are an honorable foe. They are not like a certain group who booty dance for "nationalism" while at the same time having a history that includes stealing houses and raping little girls in mosques. Can you point to an example of landers ever doing anything like that? Even Darood had no problem sitting back and watching planes wipe the landers out. If I was born a lander, I'd support separation too.
If Siad Barre actually wanted to literally wipe out the Isaaqs he would've done it, his only obstacle was the Hawiye and he'd have promised them more benefits and high government positions in order for them to stay quite. Barre was just defending his seat no matter what, people need to understand that.
 
If Siad Barre actually wanted to literally wipe out the Isaaqs he would've done it, his only obstacle was the Hawiye and he'd have promised them more benefits and high government positions in order for them to stay quite. Barre was just defending his seat no matter what, people need to understand that.

That's true. Said Barre really was motivated by the desire to keep power in the hands of himself and his narrow circle of associates. I am sure he would have leveled Cabuudwaq if it meant remaining in power. It's just that Cabuudwaq never rose up, but Hargeisa did and it paid the consequences of resisting a megalomaniacal old dictator and a cohort of other power-obsessed individuals. Never understood how Landers have zero problem blaming all South Somalis for his actions when Somalia was then a completely undemocratic security State where nobody had the power to reject state authority.

Our situation with the Mogadishu animals is different as they all took part communally, from the old selling fruits on the street corner to the drugged up mooryian bastards from galgaduud, in killing and terrorizing innocent Darood people. There was no similar level of communal violence in the North, as the violence there was carried out by the institutions of the Somali state, which were made up of all clans, and this violence was directed by one man and his associates. It was not a popular action.
 
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