Where do Somalis originate from?

[Xoxoxo]

I thought Somalis originated from Sudan? Well northern Sudan and just went south?

 

[attash]

I thought Somalis originated from Sudan? Well northern Sudan and just went south?

Our proto-cushitic ancestors came from Sudan, but they weren't Somalis yet. They became Somalis upon their arrival to the horn of Africa.

 

[NidarNidar]

Our proto-cushitic ancestors came from Sudan, but they weren't Somalis yet. They became Somalis upon their arrival to the horn of Africa.

Our migration down to the horn probably started 8,000 - 10,000 years ago.

We probably started splitting off other cushites around 2,000 - 3,000 years ago but still kept close ties, we have close ties with Nilotes through the maternal line, and the Maasai are comprised of up to 50% Cushitic ancestry.

Since there have been many excavations in the Rift Valley showing signs of early Cushitic settlers called the Savanna Pastoral Neolithic or Stone Bowl Culture formerly, they are related to the Elmenteitan (named after a lake) culture around the same time, dating back to 3,500 BC till 1,200 BC, which is roughly when Bantu reached Kenya.

Another reason why I say the Somali and primarily Borana/oromos are related and may of split off roughly the same time, I came across Somali corner video, he explains it and is a good video to watch.

We're roughly 40% Natufian and 60% Proto Nilots, basically we're Paternally Natufian and maternally Proto Nilotic, if you want to really dumb it down, it's a lot more complicated then this, and we still need more ancient samples.

 

[Burqad]

Our migration down to the horn probably started 8,000 - 10,000 years ago.

We probably started splitting off other cushites around 2,000 - 3,000 years ago but still kept close ties, we have close ties with Nilotes through the maternal line, and the Maasai are comprised of up to 50% Cushitic ancestry.

Since there have been many excavations in the Rift Valley showing signs of early Cushitic settlers called the Savanna Pastoral Neolithic or Stone Bowl Culture formerly, they are related to the Elmenteitan (named after a lake) culture around the same time, dating back to 3,500 BC till 1,200 BC, which is roughly when Bantu reached Kenya.

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Another reason why I say the Somali and primarily Borana/oromos are related and may of split off roughly the same time, I came across Somali corner video, he explains it and is a good video to watch.

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We're roughly 40% Natufian and 60% Proto Nilots, basically we're Paternally Natufian and maternally Proto Nilotic, if you want to really dumb it down, it's a lot more complicated then this, and we still need more ancient samples.

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The Darood tribe originates from Saylac originated, Ismaciil Al Jaberti was met by a famous Islamic historian and his son Cabdiraxman Ibn Ismaciil Al Jaberti and thus why he married a Dir princess, Hawiye came from the north I believe since many patriachs of Hiraab are burried in Somaliland and Hiraab is 950 years old and no other Hawiyes match them

 

[killerxsmoke]

d&m don't descend from the south, they entered the south in the 16th century after reer samaale and they are also lamagoodle

Wrong, tunni have history in the south that is 1000 years old

 

[mohamedismail]

Wrong, tunni have history in the south that is 1000 years old

Tunni and Jiido. First tribes to settle in south especially jubooyinka and shabeeloyinka.

 

[soomal__.nur1]

We ain't mixed

 

[Garaad Awal]

Our migration down to the horn probably started 8,000 - 10,000 years ago.

We probably started splitting off other cushites around 2,000 - 3,000 years ago but still kept close ties, we have close ties with Nilotes through the maternal line, and the Maasai are comprised of up to 50% Cushitic ancestry.

Since there have been many excavations in the Rift Valley showing signs of early Cushitic settlers called the Savanna Pastoral Neolithic or Stone Bowl Culture formerly, they are related to the Elmenteitan (named after a lake) culture around the same time, dating back to 3,500 BC till 1,200 BC, which is roughly when Bantu reached Kenya.

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Another reason why I say the Somali and primarily Borana/oromos are related and may of split off roughly the same time, I came across Somali corner video, he explains it and is a good video to watch.

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We're roughly 40% Natufian and 60% Proto Nilots, basically we're Paternally Natufian and maternally Proto Nilotic, if you want to really dumb it down, it's a lot more complicated then this, and we still need more ancient samples.

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Cushitic nomads only entered the Horn between 4500 to 4000 years ago.Cushites reached Northern Kenya 3000 years ago.I have no idea where you got the idea that Cushites entered the Horn 8-10k years ago...The Proto-Cushitic breakup didn't even happen yet at that time period lol

 

[NordicSomali]

 

[Khaem]

I thought Somalis originated from Sudan? Well northern Sudan and just went south?

That's ancient Cushitic tribes. Who originated in Sudan after natufian tribes left pre historic Egypt down the nile and mixed with Proto nilotes.

Those cushites moved southwards into the horn and east Africa killing off the hunter gatherer tribes. Most likely khoi sans.

Modern somali ethnicity comes from the lowland east Cushites who split into several groups including Proto Somalis who probably came from the north, although this isn't confirmed, and conquered and expanded over the whole somali peninsula becoming the modern somali ethnic group.

 

[Hamzza]

Lowland Cushites as a whole originate from Southern Ethiopia but Somalis as a group definitely originated from the area around Lake Turkana. This has been confirmed by linguists and archeologists.

 

[NidarNidar]

Cushitic nomads only entered the Horn between 4500 to 4000 years ago.Cushites reached Northern Kenya 3000 years ago.I have no idea where you got the idea that Cushites entered the Horn 8-10k years ago...The Proto-Cushitic breakup didn't even happen yet at that time period lol

We started to move down and eventually reached Kenya around 3,000 bc, not that we reached it 8,000 years ago.

 

[Garaad Awal]

We started to move down and eventually reached Kenya around 3,000 bc, not that we reached it 8,000 years ago.

There’s no archeological or Linguistic evidence that backs your claim. Cushitic catte herders entered the Horn between 2000 BCE & 2500 BCE, Arabian Semites entered the Horn between 1000 BCE & 500 BCE.

Cushites arrive in Kenya ~1000 BCE as shown by the Cole Burial sample

 

[Papaya]

There’s no archeological or Linguistic evidence that backs your claim. Cushitic catte herders entered the Horn between 2000 BCE & 2500 BCE, Arabian Semites entered the Horn between 1000 BCE & 500 BCE.

Cushites arrive in Kenya ~1000 BCE as shown by the Cole Burial sample

Those numbers are not accurate at all. You are wrong clearly.

He is right Cushites reached Kenya by 3000 BC.

 

[Papaya]

There’s no archeological or Linguistic evidence that backs your claim. Cushitic catte herders entered the Horn between 2000 BCE & 2500 BCE, Arabian Semites entered the Horn between 1000 BCE & 500 BCE.

Cushites arrive in Kenya ~1000 BCE as shown by the Cole Burial sample

You need to educate yourself more on this topic like he is.

 

[Internet Nomad]

Hell.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Those numbers are not accurate at all. You are wrong clearly.

He is right Cushites reached Kenya by 3000 BC.

You have no idea what you are speaking about. 3000 BCE South Cushitic wasn’t even a proto-language yet and the oldest domesticated cattle found in the Horn is only from 2000 BCE.

Froma archeology, linguistics and uniparentals all point to a 2500 BCE entrance into the Horn

 

[Garaad Awal]

You need to educate yourself more on this topic like he is.

Talk to me when you have evidence of cattle herders in Kenya around 3000 BCE

Delusional ass niggas

 

[NidarNidar]

Talk to me when you have evidence of cattle herders in Kenya around 3000 BCE

Delusional ass niggas

seems like you need to, post your evidence.

https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/28041/chapter-abstract/211948753?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaw6275

 

[Garaad Awal]

seems like you need to, post your evidence.

https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/28041/chapter-abstract/211948753?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaw6275

Nothing you quoted refuted my statement.Linguisitcs has proven the Agaw-East-South Cushitic branch of Cushites were cattle herders.There were no cattle in Lake Turkana 5000 years ago....The Early Pastoralists that were Sheep/goat herders and E2b as a paternal haplogroup were an early wave of pastoralists that had nothing to do with the later Cushitic nomads that arrived to Kenya by 1000 BCE (3000 ybp) as stated by your own source.Maybe you shuld start reading your own sources walaal

"Atleast two distinct movements of herders through eastern Africa, consistent with archeoligical evidence of complex spreads...showing that one group was eventually muvh more demographically succesful than the others"

All the Cushitic Paternal lineages whether E-Z813,E-Y193388,E-M293,E-V6, T-Y15711 all go back to ~2500 BCE