Why “the male loneliness epidemic” is lowkey good (sorry)

The last couple of days have been a downgrade, huh :dead:

Me and @caanoshaah got a thing. She writes BS, I try to amuse myself at her expense. Though this thread was kind of more serious, very topical on my side, at least.

What do you mean at my expense when you’re the one who wrote a whole essay responding to imaginary points I never said or made:williamswtf:you wasted all that time now you pretending like you’re playing “at my expense”??? What expense ?? :russ: If anything it’s the other way around


You’re not fooling anyone but keep embarrassing yourself:chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah:
 
Erey "bum" doesn't refer to the poverty itself, rather it refers to the behaviours and mindsets that land you in the position, which is why "bummy" as an adjective isn't synonymous with "poor" or "disadvantaged" but rather its meaning is closer to "lazy", Lower income doesn't mean straightaway you are a bum, only if you are not seeking a way out of the situation does the word apply
He didn’t even read what I said don’t waste your time on him cuz I couldn’t have been more clear, I deadass said the exact opposite of his whole essay:snoop::chrisfreshhah:he’s trying to argue with me when we basically made the same point, these niggas just want to be angry for no reason

@The alchemist do you have a kink for getting yourself angry or a humiliation fetish??? We should be honest cuz I have a man I’m not trying to indirectly get u off ewww yall niggas weird as hell cuz there is no other explanation for your one sided beef with me :kanyeshrug:
 
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What do you mean at my expense when you’re the one who wrote a whole essay responding to imaginary points I never said or made:williamswtf:you wasted all that time now you pretending like you’re playing “at my expense”??? What expense ?? :russ: If anything it’s the other way around


You’re not fooling anyone but keep embarrassing yourself:chrisfreshhah::chrisfreshhah:
The Indian arch was not at your expense. Did you forget how I predicted how you would later spin things? Never forget that.
 
:mindblown: You acting like a woman right now bringing shit up from the past instead of responding to my main point and question … :wtf::ileycry: you are not doing yourself any favours…..
Lol, you said I was delusional when I literally read you and predicted your switch up. Just have a laugh and stop being butthurt. With me, you will always take the L. :mjlol:
 
Lol, you said I was delusional when I literally read you and predicted your switch up. Just have a laugh and stop being butthurt. With me, you will always take the L. :mjlol:
What switch up you talking about now cuz you’re bringing up shit from 2-3 months back :mindblown: :ileycry: Instead of focusing on your current L like nigga why do you even remember me like that? I guess I’ll just take it as a compliment 😘 #thecaanoshaahinfluence
 

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Apparently, you pity me and “dropped arguing” with my “type” yet you responded with a whole paragraph. A whole paragraph of nothing.

Weak times didn’t create tough men in the Somali community. It created embarrassments. That doesn’t make me a coon you nacas. Look at Somalia
Get a life, your petty obsessions are pathetic.
 
It’s only a good thing because “the lonely” men in question are the BUMS who refuse to fix themselves up + improve their life, and now these are the ones finally being weeded out because people (women in particular) are no longer forced to interact with/coddle to their needs.

Women especially do you notice that men these days are starting to yearn more and more for the ages where women had 0 autonomy, in fact they’re going as far as to travelling to broke countries where they can simulate this experience by finding the most desperate of women they can woo financially. The thing is the fact they do ts is proof these men don’t want to fix themselves and attract women in a genuine and wholesome manner because deep down that’s not what they are interested in, they’re not interested in actual love and genuine connection they are looking for power and dominance over women no matter how ugly, dumb and repulsive they are so they can “buy” the power they don’t have back home

it’s unfortunate that over human history this has been the way to do things, women never really had a choice who to be with due to arranged marriages, r*pe (sighh) etc so because of that, historically men never had to focus on being attractive and attracting women

this is why we have a shortage of 1. Beautiful and 2. Actually genuine and good men

Now we’re in an era where women actually have a choice, yall make the most of it :mindblown: You should be happy everytime you reject a bum because this is the power women have been seeking all along not sure why hookup culture is being touted as “female empowerment” our true power is by being PICKY!!!!!

TIME TO EVEN THINGS OUT!!!!!

Let me just be real with you for a second. What you’re saying sounds bold on the surface but it’s shallow once you actually sit with it. You’re clowning “lonely men” like they’re all just lazy and useless but not every man struggling is some bum who doesn’t want to better himself. Some of these guys are going through real life man real pressure and pain and still holding on to their dignity still trying to figure it out without begging for sympathy. That ain’t weakness that’s strength in silence something a lot of people today wouldn’t recognize if it hit them in the face.

You talk about men needing to “fix themselves” but what does that even mean to you? Is it building character and faith or is it just looking good and stacking cash to impress a bunch of people who don’t care about you past the first glance? Because in our deen and in our Somali culture fixing yourself means taking accountability fearing Allah treating people with respect and being someone your future kids would be proud of. It ain’t about six packs or six figures it’s about substance.

And that part about men flying out to “broke countries” to find women they can control? That’s wild. What you’re calling broke is home for a lot of us. Somalia isn’t some backup option it’s where real love still exists where family still means something and where women haven’t been taught to see men as enemies. Those women back home they’re not desperate they’re grounded. They’ve got haya they’ve got patience and they’ve got a deeper understanding of life than a lot of folks out here who are chasing freedom but living empty.

You keep saying men never had to be attractive in the past like our grandmothers didn’t have standards. Come on now. Somali women always had taste always knew what kind of man they wanted. But they looked for akhlaaq for calmness for a man who prayed who respected his mother who didn’t raise his voice unless it was to call the adhaan. Attraction has always mattered but the lens was different it wasn’t filtered through Instagram expectations it was rooted in the deen.

Now you’re screaming about women finally having choice and wallahi no one’s arguing with that. Islam gave women choice before the West even saw them as fully human. But choice without wisdom is just chaos. You’re being told to be picky but what are you actually picking for? Are you choosing someone with sabr with iman with a heart that turns to Allah or are you filtering through trauma and TikTok standards hoping to build a life off vibes?

You’re calling this era female empowerment but most of it just looks like spiritual confusion dressed in confidence. Power isn’t how many men you reject it’s how many decisions you make that bring you closer to Allah. It’s turning away from the haram even when it feels easier to go with it. It’s choosing peace over pride and barakah over control.

And let’s be real this mindset right here it’s just one more sign of a dying society. One where masculinity is mocked femininity is repackaged as rebellion and families are falling apart while everyone claps for the mess. The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him already told us this would happen. He warned us about a time where women would lose their modesty where immorality would be normalized where people would choose their desires over truth. We’re living in that time now.

So nah not every lonely man is a bum and not every loud woman is empowered. Some of the realest people are quiet right now trying to survive in a world that’s making a joke out of everything sacred. If you really want to be powerful stop performing and start reflecting. Submit to Allah build your home on faith not ego and stop laughing at the ruins when you’re standing right in the middle of them.
 
Let me just be real with you for a second. What you’re saying sounds bold on the surface but it’s shallow once you actually sit with it. You’re clowning “lonely men” like they’re all just lazy and useless but not every man struggling is some bum who doesn’t want to better himself. Some of these guys are going through real life man real pressure and pain and still holding on to their dignity still trying to figure it out without begging for sympathy. That ain’t weakness that’s strength in silence something a lot of people today wouldn’t recognize if it hit them in the face.

You talk about men needing to “fix themselves” but what does that even mean to you? Is it building character and faith or is it just looking good and stacking cash to impress a bunch of people who don’t care about you past the first glance? Because in our deen and in our Somali culture fixing yourself means taking accountability fearing Allah treating people with respect and being someone your future kids would be proud of. It ain’t about six packs or six figures it’s about substance.

And that part about men flying out to “broke countries” to find women they can control? That’s wild. What you’re calling broke is home for a lot of us. Somalia isn’t some backup option it’s where real love still exists where family still means something and where women haven’t been taught to see men as enemies. Those women back home they’re not desperate they’re grounded. They’ve got haya they’ve got patience and they’ve got a deeper understanding of life than a lot of folks out here who are chasing freedom but living empty.

You keep saying men never had to be attractive in the past like our grandmothers didn’t have standards. Come on now. Somali women always had taste always knew what kind of man they wanted. But they looked for akhlaaq for calmness for a man who prayed who respected his mother who didn’t raise his voice unless it was to call the adhaan. Attraction has always mattered but the lens was different it wasn’t filtered through Instagram expectations it was rooted in the deen.

Now you’re screaming about women finally having choice and wallahi no one’s arguing with that. Islam gave women choice before the West even saw them as fully human. But choice without wisdom is just chaos. You’re being told to be picky but what are you actually picking for? Are you choosing someone with sabr with iman with a heart that turns to Allah or are you filtering through trauma and TikTok standards hoping to build a life off vibes?

You’re calling this era female empowerment but most of it just looks like spiritual confusion dressed in confidence. Power isn’t how many men you reject it’s how many decisions you make that bring you closer to Allah. It’s turning away from the haram even when it feels easier to go with it. It’s choosing peace over pride and barakah over control.

And let’s be real this mindset right here it’s just one more sign of a dying society. One where masculinity is mocked femininity is repackaged as rebellion and families are falling apart while everyone claps for the mess. The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him already told us this would happen. He warned us about a time where women would lose their modesty where immorality would be normalized where people would choose their desires over truth. We’re living in that time now.

So nah not every lonely man is a bum and not every loud woman is empowered. Some of the realest people are quiet right now trying to survive in a world that’s making a joke out of everything sacred. If you really want to be powerful stop performing and start reflecting. Submit to Allah build your home on faith not ego and stop laughing at the ruins when you’re standing right in the middle of them.
Omfg … you wrote alll that for what because my whole post was specifically about these men needing to attract women in a genuine manner (and that does include by being more faithful humble religious etc) I specifically criticized men who try to buy affection/company too and now you trying to paint me as a gold digger or something?:ileycry: :draketf:

Again I basically said the same thing as you and if you READ what I WROTE… you wouldn’t have had to waste all that time typing all that nonsense

Like this is insane atp you are arguing with your imagination because NONE of what you wrote has anything to do with what I said at all…. I actually feel bad that you wasted all that time typing out that shit for no reason
 

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Apparently, you pity me and “dropped arguing” with my “type” yet you responded with a whole paragraph. A whole paragraph of nothing.

Weak times didn’t create tough men in the Somali community. It created embarrassments. That doesn’t make me a coon you nacas. Look at Somalia
You are the real embarrassment you don’t have an ounce of self respect or dignity what have Somali women done for Somalia by the way?

If you hate Somalis so much why the hell are you on this forum
 

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Omfg … you wrote alll that for what because my whole post was specifically about these men needing to attract women in a genuine manner (and that does include by being more faithful humble religious etc) I specifically criticized men who try to buy affection/company too and now you trying to paint me as a gold digger or something?:ileycry: :draketf:

Again I basically said the same thing as you and if you READ what I WROTE… you wouldn’t have had to waste all that time typing all that nonsense

Like this is insane atp you are arguing with your imagination because NONE of what you wrote has anything to do with what I said at all…. I actually feel bad that you wasted all that time typing out that shit for no reason

See that’s the thing, you’re only just now realizing the weight of your words after they got called out. You’re saying “that’s not what I meant” but go back and actually read what you wrote. You clowned men for being lonely, you said they’re getting “weeded out,” you called them “bums,” and then you threw in this whole idea about them flying to “broke countries” to find desperate women to dominate. Be real, that wasn’t some soft critique of character. That was mockery dressed up as a hot take.

You say now that faithful, humble, religious men are what women should seek, but that wasn’t the tone of your post at all. You didn’t uplift those qualities, you glossed over them and chose to focus on shaming a type of man you assume exists in some dusty corner of the internet, but that’s not who I was defending. I was pointing out that the way you framed your whole argument lacked depth and compassion, and yeah, painted a whole demographic of struggling men as pathetic.

Also nobody called you a gold digger so relax on the dramatics. I said the mindset you're feeding into is the problem, the one that sees men as disposable if they’re not instantly impressive or financially dominant. That mindset isn’t unique to you, it’s part of a wider sickness that’s eating at relationships in our generation. You happened to echo it loud enough for me to respond to.

And look, you’re saying I’m arguing with my imagination, but half of your post was written like a standup monologue dragging men for sport. Don’t be surprised that someone took the mic and responded. That’s how dialogue works. If you meant something deeper, then maybe say it with more clarity and less mockery next time.

But anyway no hard feelings. I didn’t waste my time, I said what needed to be said. Because even if you didn’t mean to take it there, a lot of people are being shaped by those exact talking points. And if I can respond with a bit more nuance and faith than what’s usually floating around online, then that’s time well spent.

But hey, if we’re actually saying the same thing, cool. Just next time lead with that instead of trying to cook men for clout.
 

Aseer

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Let me just be real with you for a second. What you’re saying sounds bold on the surface but it’s shallow once you actually sit with it. You’re clowning “lonely men” like they’re all just lazy and useless but not every man struggling is some bum who doesn’t want to better himself. Some of these guys are going through real life man real pressure and pain and still holding on to their dignity still trying to figure it out without begging for sympathy. That ain’t weakness that’s strength in silence something a lot of people today wouldn’t recognize if it hit them in the face.

You talk about men needing to “fix themselves” but what does that even mean to you? Is it building character and faith or is it just looking good and stacking cash to impress a bunch of people who don’t care about you past the first glance? Because in our deen and in our Somali culture fixing yourself means taking accountability fearing Allah treating people with respect and being someone your future kids would be proud of. It ain’t about six packs or six figures it’s about substance.

And that part about men flying out to “broke countries” to find women they can control? That’s wild. What you’re calling broke is home for a lot of us. Somalia isn’t some backup option it’s where real love still exists where family still means something and where women haven’t been taught to see men as enemies. Those women back home they’re not desperate they’re grounded. They’ve got haya they’ve got patience and they’ve got a deeper understanding of life than a lot of folks out here who are chasing freedom but living empty.

You keep saying men never had to be attractive in the past like our grandmothers didn’t have standards. Come on now. Somali women always had taste always knew what kind of man they wanted. But they looked for akhlaaq for calmness for a man who prayed who respected his mother who didn’t raise his voice unless it was to call the adhaan. Attraction has always mattered but the lens was different it wasn’t filtered through Instagram expectations it was rooted in the deen.

Now you’re screaming about women finally having choice and wallahi no one’s arguing with that. Islam gave women choice before the West even saw them as fully human. But choice without wisdom is just chaos. You’re being told to be picky but what are you actually picking for? Are you choosing someone with sabr with iman with a heart that turns to Allah or are you filtering through trauma and TikTok standards hoping to build a life off vibes?

You’re calling this era female empowerment but most of it just looks like spiritual confusion dressed in confidence. Power isn’t how many men you reject it’s how many decisions you make that bring you closer to Allah. It’s turning away from the haram even when it feels easier to go with it. It’s choosing peace over pride and barakah over control.

And let’s be real this mindset right here it’s just one more sign of a dying society. One where masculinity is mocked femininity is repackaged as rebellion and families are falling apart while everyone claps for the mess. The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him already told us this would happen. He warned us about a time where women would lose their modesty where immorality would be normalized where people would choose their desires over truth. We’re living in that time now.

So nah not every lonely man is a bum and not every loud woman is empowered. Some of the realest people are quiet right now trying to survive in a world that’s making a joke out of everything sacred. If you really want to be powerful stop performing and start reflecting. Submit to Allah build your home on faith not ego and stop laughing at the ruins when you’re standing right in the middle of them.
See that’s the thing, you’re only just now realizing the weight of your words after they got called out. You’re saying “that’s not what I meant” but go back and actually read what you wrote. You clowned men for being lonely, you said they’re getting “weeded out,” you called them “bums,” and then you threw in this whole idea about them flying to “broke countries” to find desperate women to dominate. Be real, that wasn’t some soft critique of character. That was mockery dressed up as a hot take.

You say now that faithful, humble, religious men are what women should seek, but that wasn’t the tone of your post at all. You didn’t uplift those qualities, you glossed over them and chose to focus on shaming a type of man you assume exists in some dusty corner of the internet, but that’s not who I was defending. I was pointing out that the way you framed your whole argument lacked depth and compassion, and yeah, painted a whole demographic of struggling men as pathetic.

Also nobody called you a gold digger so relax on the dramatics. I said the mindset you're feeding into is the problem, the one that sees men as disposable if they’re not instantly impressive or financially dominant. That mindset isn’t unique to you, it’s part of a wider sickness that’s eating at relationships in our generation. You happened to echo it loud enough for me to respond to.

And look, you’re saying I’m arguing with my imagination, but half of your post was written like a standup monologue dragging men for sport. Don’t be surprised that someone took the mic and responded. That’s how dialogue works. If you meant something deeper, then maybe say it with more clarity and less mockery next time.

But anyway no hard feelings. I didn’t waste my time, I said what needed to be said. Because even if you didn’t mean to take it there, a lot of people are being shaped by those exact talking points. And if I can respond with a bit more nuance and faith than what’s usually floating around online, then that’s time well spent.

But hey, if we’re actually saying the same thing, cool. Just next time lead with that instead of trying to cook men for clout.
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