Why did abdullahi Yusuf bring the crusaders to Somalia

I have been reading up on that war and how they killed Somalis praying in masjids and how way more devastating than the 90s Civil War it was. Why would he do that?
 
IMO no war was more devastating the 90s civil war at least 250k died by man made famine not including the other atrocities which are a long list keep that in mind
 
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If not him there would be another puppet to fill those shoes. The US discarded the old Somali government and wished to create a sovereign-less puppet state after supporting these denthead warlords for decades and the best way to go about that was to use our neighbours against us under the guise of “war on terror”.
 
If not him there would be another puppet to fill those shoes. The US discarded the old Somali government and wished to create a sovereign-less puppet state after supporting these denthead warlords for decades and the best way to go about that was to use our neighbours against us under the guise of “war on terror”.
So he really didn't have choice in the matter? Usa already decided on invading anyways?
 

Sup

Anti Qabilist - Somali Patriot
I have been reading up on that war and how they killed Somalis praying in masjids and how way more devastating than the 90s Civil War it was. Why would he do that?
He didn’t have a choice, he was a mere figure head for the TFG that was created by the United States and the EU, in Nairobi Kenya. It’s a possibility he thought by letting himself be used, that he was doing Somalia a “favour”, to bring back the Somali state. Or he was doing it for his own financial and political gain, it’s hard to really know what was going through his head at the time. But his “decision” resulted in the death of 10s of thousands of innocent people, and the destruction of millions of dollars worth of property and assets of the government and civilian alike. It set back the country decades it terms of governance and economic development, not to mention the Ethiopian government at the time (under Meles Zenawi - may he rot in hell) was the defacto ruler of the country. Fun fact he was the one who imposed federalism on Somalia, due to the United States at that time allowing it to come to fruition, as they didn’t really care about the political system in the country. I won’t speak ill of AY (AUN) but I will say this, his actions were reckless and I wished he had grown a backbone.
 

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I have been reading up on that war and how they killed Somalis praying in masjids and how way more devastating than the 90s Civil War it was. Why would he do that?

There were no crusaders. He was fighting khawarij who refused to acknowledge him as the only legitimate president of Somalia. The UIC refused to listen to his orders.

A/Y aun revived the Somali state from the brink of dissolution.
 

Karim

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But his “decision” resulted in the death of 10s of thousands of innocent people, and the destruction of millions of dollars worth of property and assets of the government and civilian alike. It set back the country decades it terms of governance and economic development,
What government was there in Villa Somalia before his arrival?! What economic development was there before he opened the Airport and the port?!
 
Yeah this event plunged somalia further into conflict and extended the conflict many times over. To this day its effects are seen with the 4.5 system, I do not even have to explain to anyone what type of problems its causing.

Even Yusuf he regretted his actions towards the end of his life. From being apart of the rising somali republic, to turning against leadership with foreign funds. Rebelling against the government on behalf of the cadows of somalia, he thought he would be boosting his clan to the top.

No sadly that didnt happen, and along with all the other foreign funded rebels they were played.

I don't understand why he did what he did in 2006, that is probably the saddest part of the civil war in my eyes. There is no justifying invaded your own country alongside the Ethiopians, that did horrific crimes against somalis. He knew what he was doing was wrong, now we are still to this very day, hour we are speaking we are still affected by the 4.5 and federalism.

Just look thru the CIA documents archive, you will have your eyes opened. This all started after the Ogaden war, maybe even before.
 
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Why just MJ? Abgaal were part and parcel of that government :bell:
 

DR OSMAN

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I have been reading up on that war and how they killed Somalis praying in masjids and how way more devastating than the 90s Civil War it was. Why would he do that?

Nah nothing like 90s losing few hundred khat eaters is a blessing in Somali elites eyes, less burden on diya 😆

The 4 month war decimated the human talent in hawiye which was building up since colonial era, all fallen to 2 cent per bullet as a box of 200 bullets is 2 dollars.

By the time yey come their wasn't anything worthy to kill and why hawiye especially abgaal n hg cold war continues and will do so for hundreds of years and why hamar isn't suitable capital and better merged into hirshabelle.

Plus yey hated Ethiopia they arrested him in 85 till 91 when tplf freed him, it was more geedi pm who has family relations with meles zenawi as he was a student in hamar under siyad strategical development of him and Isaiah of eritrea.
 

DR OSMAN

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You guys don't understand Somali war strategy they don't care to kill your deadweight it's more the one u love and rely on as a clan, that's the ones they go after.

4 month war was to me the greatest tragedy to befall Somalis we wouldn't be here if those guys were around while darod elite mainly fled into diaspora as intended by America and Russia and menguistu at the time. They cud of used both their talents developed to bring back Somalia but it's impossible now as the ones in exile are old and dying and the 4 month war died out without knowledge transfer.
 

Sup

Anti Qabilist - Somali Patriot
What government was there in Villa Somalia before his arrival?! What economic development was there before he opened the Airport and the port?!
That’s a good question sxb, it’s a massive topic but I’ll try to answer bits and pieces for you. Let me first clarify that the TFG was created in Djibouti in 2004, but was later based in Nairobi until their relocation to Xamar in late 2005. Know in regards to governmental authority, there was no recognised government in Somalia until the formation of the FGS. There was however the ICU, which was established in the early 90s (which predates the creation of the TFG) which later on took control of the south of the country and brought peace for the first time since the beginning of the civil war. They became the sole authority in the south, once rule was established. The port of Mogadishu and the airport was opened, the economy and the standard of living rose (due to no conflict). Fun fact, even during the war, Somalia global purchasing power was approximately 4+ billions dollars, which is quite impressive for a war torn country during that era. Once the Ethiopian invasion occurred, the country went from bad to catastrophic. It was from that invasion that saw the creation of the vermin AS. Know in regards to the ideological beliefs of the ICU, I’d suggest you ask others as I’m not familiar with their beliefs, but from what I’ve heard on here they were moderates. Everything I have referenced are factual information I have found on the web. I do not support ICU nor the invasion by the past Ethiopian regime, I’ve tried to answer OP and your question from a logical factual viewpoint. Hope that was helpful, cheers.
 
I have been reading up on that war and how they killed Somalis praying in masjids and how way more devastating than the 90s Civil War it was. Why would he do that?
What a load of rubbish, these nigges always beat the drum of religion, where was their deen when they were slaughtering children and civilians who’d taken shelter in masajids during 91 attack on xamar
 

DR OSMAN

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What a load of rubbish, these nigges always beat the drum of religion, where was their deen when they were slaughtering children and civilians who’d taken shelter in masajids during 91 attack on xamar

Even the masjid is built with loot money their not sheikhs bro just moryans grow beards due to the global al Qaeda era as they saw it as a way to continue conflict. I suggest if ur in hamar just pray at home cause the Mosque is nijas. It's really Satan acting Muslim.
 
90% of the battles took place in Murusade neighbourhoods. All the heavy lifting was done by us. 1 by 1 all the other clans joined the battle starting with Duduble followed by Ceyr & Salebaan. Even other clans like Ogaden and Marexaan came to join the jihad after.

 

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