Why do Blacks use Ethiopia to justify them being Christians?

[4head]

Most Ethiopians were polytheist during d'mt, also its was not Ethiopia it was Eritrea. Somali is a clan and nomad society, no much civilization there. The Christian kingdoms after Aksum in Ethiopia were just expansionist killers, they didn't accomplished anything, in terms of building, except Zeagwa.

Don't be that negative, Ethiopia has had a long-lasting dynasty, with rulers who built multiple castles, towns and because of their bureaucracy, we can still read about their history.
In Africa, this ain't common. I agree that Somalis accomplished some things in History, but we shouldn't downgrade their legacy, to uplift ours.

Peace

 

[4head]

We used to raid the romans That’s why they calledus barbarians

the guy said slaves

Yes, I'm sure we've had somali slaves back then.
Selling someone ain't specific tradition folklore from one or two civilizations. Everyone did it; selling by exporting slaves, or importing human commodities.

 

[Eedaaf]

Don't be that negative, Ethiopia has had a long-lasting dynasty, with rulers who built multiple castles, towns and because of their bureaucracy, we can still read about their history.
In Africa, this ain't common. I agree that Somalis accomplished some things in History, but we shouldn't downgrade their legacy, to uplift ours.

Peace

Obviously considering they aren’t the easiest neighbors to kaarbash it would make all of somalis accomplashments during the past nothing

 

[Horn African]

Don't be that negative, Ethiopia has had a long-lasting dynasty, with rulers who built multiple castles, towns and because of their bureaucracy, we can still read about their history.
In Africa, this ain't common. I agree that Somalis accomplished some things in History, but we shouldn't downgrade their legacy, to uplift ours.

Peace

I am Ethio. The only civilization that did good after Aksum was Zeagwa. Somalis were nomad and clan society that aren't much civilization there.

 

[Eedaaf]

Yes, I'm sure we've had somali slaves back then.
Selling someone ain't specific tradition folklore from one or two civilizations. Everyone did it; selling by exporting slaves, or importing human commodities.

Well we were nomads so there really wasent any purpose in selling slaves and we weren’t Muslim so we didn’t have anyone to sell it to

we did sell slaves maybe a few hundred years ago cause we were Muslim and had ties with the rest of the muslim world but we didnt have any purpose other then money

 

[4head]

I am Ethio. The only civilization that did good after Aksum was Zeagwa. Somalis were nomad and clan society that aren't much civilization there.

Hello Ethio,
I'm Hibongo

 

[Juliet]

And this guy had the nerve to say we were slaves

what religion did we have before Islam heard we worshipped idols

why would anyone worship idols

Not idols,dumbass, that was Arabians. We apparently worshipped a set of dieties, with the main one being known as Ebbe/Waaq

 

[Eedaaf]

Not idols,dumbass, that was Arabians. We apparently worshipped a set of dieties, with the main one being known as Ebbe/Waaq

Seems like you hate Arabs

idols multiple gods same shit to be honest both kaffirs

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

I am Ethio. The only civilization that did good after Aksum was Zeagwa. Somalis were nomad and clan society that aren't much civilization there.

We had the adal and ajuran empires, not all of us were nomadic

 

[Horn African]

We had the adal and ajuran empires

They were not Somalis exclusive, maybe Ajuran was, but Adal was multi-ethnic with many Ethio-semitic speaking Muslims, like Hararis, Harla, Argobba, and Gurage.

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

They were not Somalis exclusive, maybe Ajuran was, but Adal was multi-ethnic with many Ethio-semitic speaking Muslims, like Hararis, Harla, Argobba, and Gurage.

Adal was predominately somali

During Adal's initial period, when it was centered in city of Zeila in the present-day northwestern Awdal region, the kingdom was primarily composed of Somalis (Predominantly), Afars, Hararis and Arabs.[9][44][45]

Adal Sultanate - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Shimbiris]

Don't be that negative, Ethiopia has had a long-lasting dynasty, with rulers who built multiple castles, towns and because of their bureaucracy, we can still read about their history.
In Africa, this ain't common. I agree that Somalis accomplished some things in History, but we shouldn't downgrade their legacy, to uplift ours.

Peace

Yeah, Horn African is being harsh on both sides. It is true that "Ethiopia" underwent a sort of "Dark-age" after the collapse of Aksum and the later Zagwes. The Solomonics were not really city and town builders and even the best castles of their reign were designed by Portuguese and are flat-out Portuguese architecture. For much of their history they ironically lived in a large nomadic court of tents that wandered the Horn to keep a close watch on their conquered lands and also conquer new ones.

Urban civilization in the Horn kind of shifted eastward during a good chunk of the Middle-Ages. Inland towns like the predecessors of Harar inhabited by Southern Ethiosemitic Muslims and East Cushites and coastal towns in Somalia like Saylac, Berbera, Xamar, Marka and Barawe all reaching their heights around this time thanks to benefiting from trade with the Muslim world while the Solomonics were more isolated now.

But the Solomonics shouldn't be diminished as they were quite politically powerful during this time and routinely karbaashed Muslim sultanates like the Adals in Saylac whom they extracted tribute from alongside their decent bureaucracy and the preservation of their history you mentioned.

 

[Horn African]

But the Solomonics shouldn't be diminished as they were quite politically powerful during this time and routinely karbaashed Muslim sultanates like the Adals in Saylac whom they extracted tribute from alongside their decent bureaucracy and the preservation of their history you mentioned.

The Muslims were defeated not because the Solomanic were powerful, but because of Oromo expansion that push and weakened the Muslims (both South Habeshas and Sahos/Afars-alike). That is the reason why Hararis are in small pockets of E. Ethiopia but their language is totally South Ethio-semitic, they use to live next to other Ethio-semitic speakers, before being pushed around and shrunk.

 

[Shimbiris]

The Muslims were defeated not because the Solomanic were powerful, but because of Oromo expansion that push and weakened the Muslims both South Habeshas and Sahos/Afars-alike. That is the reason why Hararis are in small pockets of E. Ethiopia but their language is totally South Ethio-semitic, they use to live next to other Ethio-semitic speakers, before bieng pushed around and shrunk.

If I'm not mistaken, the Oromo expansions mostly post-date the Abyssinian victories I'm talking about. Oromos don't begin expanding in earnest until after 1500 whereas we for example have a hymn from the Habesha Emperor Yeshaq I during the 1400s where he talks about defeating the Adal ("Simur" which is apparently an ethnonym for Somalis) and extracting tribute from them. In fact, the Oromos expand most successfully after the "Conquest of Abyssinia" instigated by Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim fails which happened around the mid 1500s. Adal and most of the old and powerful Muslim sultanates are all but gone when the Oromos are doing most of their expanding.

 

[Horn African]

If I'm not mistaken, the Oromo expansions mostly post-date the Abyssinian victories I'm talking about. Oromos don't begin expanding in earnest until after 1500 whereas we for example have a hymn from the Habesha Emperor Yeshaq I during the 1400s where he talks about defeating the Adal ("Simur" which is apparently an ethnonym for Somalis) and extracting tribute from them. In fact, the Oromos expand most successfully after the "Conquest of Abyssinia" instigated by Ahmed Ibn Ibrahim fails which happened around the mid 1500s. Adal and most of the old and powerful Muslim sultanates are all but gone when the Oromos are doing most of their expanding.

The Oromos expansion happened simultaneously when Adal-Abyssinia attacked each other. 1500s is when they reach Abyssinia, before that they were already in Central/SE Ethiopia.

 

[Shimbiris]

The Oromos expansion happened simultaneously when Adal-Abyssinia attacked each other. 1500s is when they reach Abyssinia, before that they were already in Central/SE Ethiopia.

I know. I'm just saying that they don't really start expanding until the 1500s and they become more of a big deal like a century or so later but the Abyssinians were karbaashing groups like Somalis, Afars and Southern Habeshas before that based on that hymn from Yeshaq I during the 1400s. So I don't think it's fair to say the only reason they were sometimes beating the Muslims is because the Oromos weakened them.

 

[Hassan11]

Islam and Christianity are foreign religion to Africa
We need to go back to our native religions
Both Islam and Christianity brought slavery to Africa made our people slaves

Lmao Somalis were never slaves to anyone nor is Islam a foreign religion because it doesn’t belong to any ethnic group. Being a Muslim just means being a submitter to god. That concept has existed since the beginning of time with Adam Alaysalam.

 

[Factz]

I am Ethio. The only civilization that did good after Aksum was Zeagwa. Somalis were nomad and clan society that aren't much civilization there.

Are you actually serious? At that time two of Somali major populations which were concentrated in the northwest and south were under two states (Ajuran & Adal) and these two kingdoms were more urbanized and wealthier than Abyssinia. There is no medieval document mentioning a single great city from there while Zeila, Berbera, Mogadishu, Merca, Barawa and etc were mentioned by countless medieval historians as major centers. Abyssinia was an isolated region that did not have contact with the outside world and most of its populations were living in huts. I don't mean to claim all Somalis lived in cities but Mogadishu and Zeila were considered the two largest metropolis cities in East Africa. That alone speaks volumes in terms of the civilizational disparity between us in that period.

A lot of Ethiopians make ignorant claims without studying Somali history and you'll be surprised Somalis were a lot more advanced. I'm not trying to talk down on Ethiopia but at the same time go pick a book before you spew nonsense.

 

[DalsanJubiland]

Lmao Somalis were never slaves to anyone nor is Islam a foreign religion because it doesn’t belong to any ethnic group. Being a Muslim just means being a submitter to god. That concept has existed since the beginning of time with Adam Alaysalam.

Not
Somalis are African Kushtic
Bilaal could have been Somali, Ormo and Habashi and was slaved by Arab
Islam is not native religion in Somalia or Horn of Africa

 

[Hassan11]

Not
Somalis are African Kushtic
Bilaal could have been Somali, Ormo and Habashi and was slaved by Arab
Islam is not native religion in Somalia or Horn of Africa

Lol do you think Islam belongs to Arabs or something how can a religion be “foreign”
and furthermore slaves of Muslims aren’t beaten or tortured like how black slaves were in America during the 1800s and I’m pretty sure islamically it’s considered a good deed to free slaves, Prophet Muhammad SAW freed slaves.