why do non white people attribute anything that is honorable to white people?

[The truth seeker]

That's gangsta rap. Not all rap glorifies the gang life

@Shimbiris Gangster rap is American soft power it’s the youth culture around the world in places like Egypt the rich kids all want to look like and sound there favorite rapper literally saw some Arab kids throwing up gang sings in a mall when I was in Cairo the US government 100% had a hand in creating about it I made a thread about this a while ago

The rapid growth of Private prisons and there influence over popular culture

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921160580/hip-hop-shines-a-light-through-the-cracks-in-american-justice https://iforcolor.org/the-secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-music-and-destroyed-a-generation/ https://hiphopandpolitics.com/2013/04/24/jailhouse-roc-the-facts-about-hip-hop-and-prison-for-profit/...

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[The truth seeker]

This is actually kinda wrong. Southerner Caadan culture is actually an offshoot of black enslaved culture. It's the opposite. Country music, cowboys, etc are all from black or Mexican culture. Lots of things attributed to whites commonly were from black enslaved people. Southern cadaan culture is just racism and economic deprivation.

@Shimbiris Thomas sowell has a different explanation

 

[Shimbiris]

@Shimbiris Thomas sowell has a different explanation

Human beings really are just running on the same exact hardware. If this is all true, i's insane how some people of sometimes mostly West-Central African descent are basically manifesting "low-class" British culture where you can find parallels between them and bloody Roman-era Celts. WC Hardware boots poor British White software with no problem.

 

[NidarNidar]

For example, if you see a Black, Arab, Indian, or Mexican person post a video of themselves wearing nice clothing or listening to classical music instead of rap, you'll often find people from their own community calling them "whitewashed." They may not realize it, but this discourages their own people from striving for self-improvement. On the other hand, if they see a white person listening to a degenerate rap song or mimicking gangster behavior, they find it cringe and embarrassing because they perceive that this type of music isn’t meant for them. In most cases, this acts as a deterrent for white kids from indulging in gangster activities, reinforcing the expectation that they should behave "righteously."

Think this is an American thing, I grew up listening to old school rock, Japanese alternative rock, rap etc.. watching anime, reading scifi books, having a diverse interest in cultural material shows, though I did go through a phase where I dressed mainly with LA Lakers gear xD I did a lot of callisthenics.

Intimidating American culture didn't make me into a hoodrat, maybe living in similar condition would reinforce me going down the wrong path if I lived in America, or elsewhere but everyone has a different environment, a lot of the friends I grew up with mostly caddaan did drugs early, I usually cut them off since I was raised that way.

 

[Taintedlove]

Human beings really are just running on the same exact hardware. If this is all true, i's insane how some people of sometimes mostly West-Central African descent are basically manifesting "low-class" British culture where you can find parallels between them and bloody Roman-era Celts. WC Hardware boots poor British White software with no problem.

I highkey would be careful listening to thomas sowell. A lot of what he's said has been debunked as misinformation.

 

[Shimbiris]

I highkey would be careful listening to thomas sowell. A lot of what he's said has been debunked as misinformation.

I'm familiar with the things he's published that have been debunked and take him generally with a bag of salt but when it comes to Aframs and their Southern influences I don't think he's being deceptive.

He's also not really aligning with cadaan racists at all with what he says and points out that everything supposedly "deficient" in AA culture is an influence from lower class cadaans rather than due to nonsense like genetic inferiority. Seems to back every statement he makes up with a citation and everything he says logically tracks but I'll look into his claims more rigorously someday in the future, insha'Allah.

 

[Unicorn]

Im always suprised about how people look at cadaans as miskeens...its very strange.

 

[Duubpon]

Im always suprised about how people look at cadaans as miskeens...its very strange.

No one looks at them as miskeen

 

[TheLand]

Im always suprised about how people look at cadaans as miskeens...its very strange.

They are good folks

 

[Unicorn]

They are good folks

I almost thought u were abdifreedom like he would say something like this. But u loving those trump gifs was a sign

 

[TheLand]

I almost thought u were abdifreedom like he would say something like this. But u loving those trump gifs was a sign

No I honestly believe that. Just personal experience.

 

[Unicorn]

No one looks at them as miskeen

Ohh u would be suprised. The amount of non yts tht think yt people are nice/law abiding citizens is crazy.

 

[Duubpon]

Ohh u would be suprised. The amount of non yts tht think yt people are nice/law abiding citizens is crazy.

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[DubatDiaries]

Maybe its a Canada thing, but people largely dress the same (brands,styles) in the cities so I haven't seen the term whitewashed used for clothing.

Classical music and 'nice clothing' aren't exactly what comes to mind when I think 'honourable'. White people are associated with elder abandonment which is seen as a big dishonour in most parts of the world - so there's that

 

[PotentialGaraad]

Madow American culture is really just a subculture of working class southern Cadaan culture. Even their dialect is a dialectal off-shoot from the south if all the "Y'all" talk didn't give it away. A lot of southern working class culture and music enshrines a lot of the same things.

Niggas were the easy scapegoat for the rich cadaans to distract the poor ones. "Yes, you're a poor and filthy pleb, but you're better than that n*gger!" as the toothless redneck screams "Yeahhhhh!"

Gotta hand it to rich white folks. What a heist, man.

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”

― Lyndon B. Johnson


A certain arrogant subsection of whites are happy to undergo trials and tribulations if it means that it ultimately hurt non-whites.

 

[Shimbiris]

@Shimbiris Thomas sowell has a different explanation

I gave the first one a watch, and from a cultural anthropological perspective—if what he’s saying holds up under deeper scrutiny—it’s certainly fascinating and commendable work. His observations on the origins of Afram vernacular and culture, particularly its roots in antebellum Southern redneck culture with ties to the British Isles, are really interesting and compelling.

That said, from an economic standpoint, his thesis seems pretty questionable. He appears to imply that Aframs could’ve simply LLC’d their way to liberation, while completely glossing over key structural and historical factors: Reconstruction-era cadaan terrorism, redlining, Jim Crow laws, and even the U.S. government’s role in flooding Afram neighborhoods with hard drugs at various points. He doesn’t even give a brief mention to any of this. Which is insane to think about. Instead, the narrative is basically: "They inherited a self-defeating redneck culture, and then the welfare state showed up in the mid-20th century—and that’s why African Americans are struggling." It feels oddly simplistic and even deliberately evasive.

What makes this more befuddling is that in Sowell’s own writings, he’s clearly aware of the violent cadaan resistance to Afram advancement. He acknowledges how New England missionaries who came south to educate freedmen were routinely terrorized, and he touches on how Afram communities were confined to certain neighborhoods and economically sabotaged. But then he just moves on—as if these factors were things Aframs could attitude their way out of.

In my opinion, this reflects a broader issue with a lot of right-wing economic analysis: it tends to be shallow and conveniently ignores or downplays a lot. What Sowell does is like looking at today’s underdeveloped Somali regions, fixating on things like qabiilism, salafism, and mooryaanimo—and then claiming Somalia’s issues are purely cultural. All while completely ignoring how the West deliberately wrecked the Somali economy through the IMF, funded rebel militias during the Barre collapse with zero post-Barre planning, and even worked to dismantle the ICU when it had finally stabilized the south in the 00s.

Then glossing over how Somaliland and Puntland are beholden to a non-functional central government the west herds around like its boy for any serious developmental funding. Then, finally and most egregiously of all, glossing over the Somali Civil War itself, the most important factor of all. Would anyone take someone seriously if they claimed to analyze Somalia’s current economic predicament while skipping all that? But this is more or less what he appears to do when analyzing Aframs' predicament.

This is the perfect example of how shallow right-wing economic analysis often is. No real material or systemic analysis and pretending success is all about “mindset,” while worshipping the almighty God that is the "invisible hand of the market". Waa anti-intellectualism, wallahi.

@Taintedlove