why do they do this?

Pretty sure the majority of immigrants do in fact come from right wing countries/backgrounds. Just take a look at the most common countries of origin.

Just because they left doesnโ€™t mean they disagree with the ideology that forced them to flee their country. Which is kind of hypocritical, because they still have that same mindset when they immigrate somewhere else.

Itโ€™s like certain immigrants are unable to put two and two together and come to the conclusion that theyโ€™re garbage extremist ideology is the reason their home country is a shithole.

It's pure hypocrisy for sure. The same men that calaacal about 'dangers of feminism' would love to repress women in their own homeland. But in the diaspora, they live off a woman, whether it's their mother, or that poor wife of theirs that they split bills with. They all want to be rightwing Cadaan men, they admire these men, which is why Andrew Tate et al, have so many non-Cadaan fanboys.

The best system is Allah's law, but Allah's best servants don't seem to desire power.
 

Somali Saayid

Cilaanle - Bangeele - Caabudwaaq
VIP
To achieve a political goalโ€ฆ Blindly voting for only one party is political immature. Muslims in America need to grow up politically and start learning how the game is played. Start partaking in the legalised bribery game, bribery is allowed when you are preserving your rights.

Apparently Linda McMahon got the secretary of education position for about 10 million dollars. Imagine muslims taking advantage of something like, that not necessarily of that scale, to get some political influence. Who cares if itโ€™s right or left. Play both sides depending on who is good for you on that day
I realizer her husband is Mr mcmahon from WWE.
Vince Mcmahon Wwe GIF
 

Khaem

Frรผher of the Djibouti Ugaasate ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฏ
VIP
These morons don't even appreciate the fact, that their hooyo (who probably raised them mostly), has access to money, jobs, and general freedoms thanks to the feminism they hate so much. If it wasn't for feminism they would be even more disenfranchised. Imagine hooyos coming here, and being sexually harassed, no access to banks and other important paper work, no right to vote, no right to an education etc, etc.

As for liberalism, it's the only reason why we have protections and rights. Or do they think right wing Cadaans are going to tolerate them.

It's always the dhaandhaan, low-achieving males, with mommy issues, who think they are Cadaan right wing men. I suggest a good look in the mirror and a basic education as treatment.
Liberalism isn't the reason women have all these things. Islamically these are all within a woman's right. In Sharia a woman is able to open a bank account with no issues. But you speak as if Somali women should be grateful to liberal ideology for having these rights. When our great grandmother's could do much more than theirs.
 

AbdiFreedom

For an immigrant-free Canada
Staff Member
I pray that I get a strong, independent daughter that will respectfully and politely challenge me when she's convinced I'm wrong. What a failure it would be to have a meek and weak daughter that agrees to whatever her father asks or expects like in many Somalian households. Long live western culture!
 

Sup

Anti Qabilist - Somali Patriot
But Somalis and other immigrants DO believe in that ideology as long as it serves them, right.
As long as the checks clear, the welfare comes through, the social housing, the protections that shield women from sexual harassment, that give women a decent pay and all the other gifts that liberalism bestowed upon the immigrants?

Why can't people give thanks for all the benefits and then admit that they have to move to a Muslim country in the near future? Instead of being ungrateful and hostile to the only ideologies that have shielded them in the Western hemisphere.

Maybe immigrants in the diaspora, need to taste life under rightwing ideologies for a change, right wing + misogynist waliba. The Handmaiden's tale.
I canโ€™t and wonโ€™t speak for others, know regarding your view point I agree with most if not all of them. To be frank, Iโ€™m not sure were this has come from, Iโ€™ve merely made a factual statement and youโ€™ve seem to go on a tangent, whilst simultaneously reasserting western bias on your own people, brilliant ๐Ÿ‘ !

There are tenets of liberalism and feminism that I %100 agree with, there are also tenets that I outright reject.

For example,
The advocation for transgenders & homosexuality, and pushing that ideology onto everyone, especially the most vulnerable.

Forcing young ones to undergo gender reassignment surgery, which is tantamount to child abuse. Whilst nothing is done to protect them by the government and alike, due to the fear of being labelled a โ€œTransphobeโ€.


The father of liberalism John Locke, who might I add was a deeply religious man. His tenants have been wildly influential in the creation of modern liberalism as we know it. โ€œMostโ€ tenants except respect for others faith, the constant abuse and violence by the far left (and right of course) in respect to Islam, Christianity and other religious beliefs etc is extremely hypocritical from the ideology they claim to follow.

Know in regard to โ€œmodern feminismโ€ which might I add is not the feminism of old, which I support to the fullest. A society that values and promotes equality between the sexes etc. This new wave of feminists have created a dogma of hate, and has created a massive divide between the sexes. A movement that advocates for women to not marry and to break up families, a movement that glorifies only fans and the sex industry, openly calling for the extermination of men and labelling men as the enemy. In all aspect this sounds a bit silly, but unfortunately this is a fact, feel free to watch some of their protest on YouTube, itโ€™s absolutely delightful all that hate and animosity, Iโ€™m sure youโ€™d feel right at home ๐Ÿ˜Š

I could list more but Iโ€™m sure you get my drift and this is what I was referring to in my previous comment. I await your โ€œintuitiveโ€ response.
 
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Gacmeey

Madaxweynaha Qurbo Joogta ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ด
I canโ€™t and wonโ€™t speak for others, know regarding your view point I agree with most if not all of them. To be frank, Iโ€™m not sure were this has come from, Iโ€™ve merely made a factual statement and youโ€™ve seem to go on a tangent, whilst simultaneously reasserting western bias on your own people, brilliant ๐Ÿ‘ !

There are tenets of liberalism and feminism that I %100 agree with, there are also tenets that I outright reject.

For example,
The advocation for transgenders & homosexuality, and pushing that ideology onto everyone, especially the most vulnerable.

Forcing young ones to undergo gender reassignment surgery, which is tantamount to child abuse. Whilst nothing is done to protect them by the government and alike, due to the fear of being labelled a โ€œTransphobeโ€.


The father of liberalism John Locke, who might I add was a deeply religious man. His tenants have been wildly influential in the creation of modern liberalism as we know it. โ€œMostโ€ tenants except respect for others faith, the constant abuse and violence by the far left (and right of course) in respect to Islam, Christianity and other religious beliefs etc is extremely hypocritical from the ideology they claim to follow.

Know in regard to โ€œmodern feminismโ€ which might I add is not the feminism of old, which I support to the fullest. A society that values and promotes equality between the sexes etc. This new wave of feminists have created a dogma of hate, and has created a massive divide between the sexes. A movement that advocates for women to not marry and to break up families, a movement that glorifies only fans and the sex industry, openly calling for the extermination of men and labelling men as the enemy. In all aspect this sounds a bit silly, but unfortunately this is a fact, feel free to watch some of their protest on YouTube, itโ€™s absolutely delightful all that hate and animosity, Iโ€™m sure youโ€™d feel right at home ๐Ÿ˜Š

I could list more but Iโ€™m sure you get my drift and this is what I was referring to in my previous comment. I await your โ€œintuitiveโ€ response.
Even the tenant of respecting others beliefs is one they do not follow not that they followed it when lock theorised liberalism. Just look at what the Maryland supreme court said when religious parents tried to opt out their kids from LGBTQ education.

Most people have blind faith about the self-mythology these ideologies have but what actually happens on the ground and the practicalities are extremely different.
 

Sup

Anti Qabilist - Somali Patriot
Even the tenant of respecting others beliefs is one they do not follow not that they followed it when lock theorised liberalism. Just look at what the Maryland supreme court said when religious parents tried to opt out their kids from LGBTQ education.

Most people have blind faith about the self-mythology these ideologies have but what actually happens on the ground and the practicalities are extremely different.
Itโ€™s mental isnโ€™t it,

In theory their new found ideology is basically, your either with us or against us, there is no in between, no room for criticism or reflection, no room for opposition. And if you fall out that fold, then your a โ€œbackwards, literate cavemanโ€, itโ€™s become a bloody cult !!
 
Living as a low income refugee in a country whose values you view as inferior is pathetic, and no amount of cope is going to change that.
 

Gacmeey

Madaxweynaha Qurbo Joogta ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ด
Living as a low income refugee in a country whose values you view as inferior is pathetic, and no amount of cope is going to change that.
Pathetic or not, is our critique of philosophical liberalism and its sub-branches wrong? Does the socio-economic status of the person making an argument change the merit of the argument?
 
Pathetic or not, is our critique of philosophical liberalism and its sub-branches wrong? Does the socio-economic status of the person making an argument change the merit of the argument?
No, but it's hypocritical in both a secular and Islamic sense. It's haram to live in a kuffar country without the intention of migrating.

Zakariya al-Ansaari al-Shaafaโ€™i said in his book Asna al-Mataalib (4/207):

It is obligatory to migrate from the kaafir lands to the Muslim lands for those who are able to do that, if they are unable to practise their religion openly.


 
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