Why Trump is selling out Ukraine (and the EU) for peace with Russia

Aurelian

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The West had Russia cornered, but Trump chose to concede to Putin's pressure, giving him leverage on Ukraine. This led to Trump humiliating and pressuring Zelensky into accepting humiliating terms for a ceasefire. Ukraine eventually accepted, and Trump was then to contact Russia to make Putin accept the deal as well. However, Putin made Trump agree a limited ceasefire where the Russia will not attack Ukraine infrastructure, and in return protects Russia's energy infrastructure, not a complete ceasefire. The phone call between Trump and Putin was a complete win for Putin, who successfully manipulated Trump into accepting a deal that serves Russia's interests.

 

The truth seeker

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Ukraine was a cannon folder that against all odds repelled an invasion and destroyed the Russian military which won’t recover for at least a generation they served there propose on the bright side they still have a country

Trump is transactional he wants Ukrainian and Congolese minerals to fuel the AI boom China his only rival has currently the crucial minerals market cornered

Trump has not left NATO so status quo will continue
 

cunug3aad

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Ukraine was a cannon folder that against all odds repelled an invasion and destroyed the Russian military which won’t recover for at least a generation they served there propose on the bright side they still have a country

Trump is transactional he wants Ukrainian and Congolese minerals to fuel the AI boom China his only rival has currently the crucial minerals market cornered

Trump has not left NATO so status quo will continue
Russia is also a rival, more so now that ukraine has been weakened and there is no clear allyship between russia and usa, meaning that usa will have less access to the ukrainian minerals since russia also is looking to grab it as well. Ukraine was only resisting thanks to the usa was keeping up pressure by providing weapons and refusing to negotiate on putins terms.

Funny how nato was made specifically to combat the russian threat and now because of usa involvement it is failing to do its sole purpose:gaasdrink:
 

The truth seeker

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Russia is also a rival, more so now that ukraine has been weakened and there is no clear allyship between russia and usa, meaning that usa will have less access to the ukrainian minerals since russia also is looking to grab it as well. Ukraine was only resisting thanks to the usa was keeping up pressure by providing weapons and refusing to negotiate on putins terms.

Funny how nato was made specifically to combat the russian threat and now because of usa involvement it is failing to do its sole purpose:gaasdrink:
Russia is a joke it’s economy is smaller than Texas and Spain’s and it’s millitary has been absolutely destroyed they pose zero threat to NATO

Ukraine is flat farmland nothing easier to invade Putin has failed and bit of way more than he could chew if you talking about minerals Russia already has way more than it needs it’s the country with the most natural resource wealth isn’t the world Putin gains nothing from this war
 
Russia is a joke it’s economy is smaller than Texas and Spain’s and it’s millitary has been absolutely destroyed they pose zero threat to NATO

Ukraine is flat farmland nothing easier to invade Putin has failed and bit of way more than he could chew if you talking about minerals Russia already has way more than it needs it’s the country with the most natural resource wealth isn’t the world Putin gains nothing from this war
GDP doesn't determine geopolitical influence. Just look at Israel. Countries like Russia and Iran also have plenty of room for growth if sanctions were removed. USA seems to be willing to cede ground to regional powers.
 

The truth seeker

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GDP doesn't determine geopolitical influence. Just look at Israel. Countries like Russia and Iran also have plenty of room for growth if sanctions were removed. USA seems to be willing to cede ground to regional powers.
Economic power is the backbone of geopolitical power regional powers like Russia who are to proud to realize there role in the world hasacrificed everything for the sake of military superiority and look how far that got them in Ukraine they have been exposed a paper tiger

Russia has been sucked dry by corrupt oligarchs since the 90s and Iran is a regressive theocracy that has never reached pre 1979 levels of economic prosperity

Israel has no choice but to be armed to the teeth it’s enemies want them wiped of the map
 
Economic power is the backbone of geopolitical power regional powers like Russia who are to proud to realize there role in the world hasacrificed everything for the sake of military superiority and look how far that got them in Ukraine they have been exposed a paper tiger

Russia has been sucked dry by corrupt oligarchs since the 90s and Iran is a regressive theocracy that has never reached pre 1979 levels of economic prosperity

Israel has no choice but to be armed to the teeth it’s enemies want them wiped of the map
Russia's aim is not to go toe to toe with the US. They want to create their own sphere of influence. If they weren't a threat, why are the Europeans and the Americans worried? The most powerful country in the world is running up and down trying to get a deal? Why are they making concessions? They may not be able to challenge the US but that is not the same for countries that surround them. At least the Russians have the excuse that Ukraine has hundreds of billions in advance weaponry and intelligence support. What excuse does America have for Afghanistan?
 

The truth seeker

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Russia's aim is not to go toe to toe with the US. They want to create their own sphere of influence. If they weren't a threat, why are the Europeans and the Americans worried? The most powerful country in the world is running up and down trying to get a deal? Why are they making concessions? They may not be able to challenge the US but that is not the same for countries that surround them. At least the Russians have the excuse that Ukraine has hundreds of billions in advance weaponry and intelligence support. What excuse does America have for Afghanistan?
Afghanistan is a lost cause they got bin Laden and got rid of AQ influence Iraq was the real prize all along that bush wanted

Whatever ”Concessions ”Putin gets The fact is that he is in no position to invade other Eastern European countries as his millitary has been destroyed and his economy is comparable to that of Italy 21st century Russia is nothing more than a paper tiger
 

The truth seeker

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So a pivot to Russia with exactly what in exchange?? Trump is burning bridges with important allies by cozying up to Russia.
A warmer relationship with Putin does not necessarily destroy NATO alliances he wants to focus on China

NATO countries need to spend more on defense this should be a wake up call they spent decades slashing defense spending and gutting personal f*ck around find out
 

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