Will the self-declared state show East Africa how it’s done?

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Can you bring anything other than "muhqabiil"? It's neither funny nor original.

Somaliland today is doing better than under any administration southern or otherwise. It is about to have another free and fair election and a peaceful transfer of power. It is undergoing economic and infrastructure development with no AID or loans. It will soon increase it's export and import capacity with the development of Berbera port, something the southern administration has tried to stop unsuccessfully many times. It's population has a democratic and representative government that takes it's concerns seriously. It's elders are respected and the clan elders have a positive input in the peace within the country. Unlike the south where the elders are used for target practice or turned into barbecue meat by alshabab. Why would we give up all that? For what, for braindead Southerners and Buuqlanders who can't even stop killing eachother? Pull the other one.

The only reason why SL may be doing better is because SL escaped the civil war relatively unharmed compared to the rest of the country. That does not give it the right to secede, in fact SL should be doing the most to achieve unity, because of how stable it has become, if you people got rid of "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome then SL could've led the whole nation to unity and prosperity. Instead you kept everything all to yourself, not even help your brethren to the south who were suffering.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Somalia could learn from Somaliland

Yes, but they don't want to help their southern brethren because they suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

 

[Prince Abubu]

The only reason why SL may be doing better is because SL escaped the civil war relatively unharmed compared to the rest of the country. That does not give it the right to secede, in fact SL should be doing the most to achieve unity, because of how stable it has become, if you people got rid of "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome then SL could've led the whole nation to unity and prosperity. Instead you kept everything all to yourself, not even help your brethren to the south who were suffering.

This is why no one takes you seriously. Somaliland has escaped the civil war? Wtf are you talking about. Somaliland and SNM initiated the civil war when Afweyne and the censored decided to persecute the Isaaq population. Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera were leveled with aerial bombardment and mortars. 50,000 died in Hargeisa and it's surrounding areas alone. No Somali city has seen the destruction Hargeisa had. Are you high or something? Nobody can be this dense.

 

[Frazier]

What humiliation?

I always have practiced what I preach. I preach anti qabyaalad and I practice anti qabyaalad. You on the other hand suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

Obviously you not because you support Somalia, a country that runs on 4.5 power sharing system. Muuh Qabiil on steroids.

Well the simple answer, which you fail to understand is that again Somalia is not at the point where you can say that it is strong. When it is strong and stable and still has these problems, then you can say "oh unity is not feasible". The problem is, unity has not been achieved yet due to foreign powers meddling in federal states. You cannot put the cart before the horse.

Well you said it yourself, Somalia is a failed and weak country that can not administer itself. A modern colony basically. You can't simply say "wait for us to fix our and shit and than try unity again" This is exactly what I meant with Somalia's crab effect, instead of working on your mess or setting SL off you rather to keep SL and rest of federal states hostage to your incompetency for eternity.

In that case We are better off separated on from Somalia, no?

Have you not seen how many times AMISOM camps and bases have been raided by Al Shabaab?

Have you seen the amount of times they fucked up in their operations?

Why on earth do you think I'm saying we should unite with Somaliland first? I have never said that. First the unity comes with the federal states, then we unite with Somaliland. You need to understand that before anything else.

More and more excuses. Somaliland is not obligated to defeat Al Shabaab, our hands are full.

If you can't run your own city without foreign muscles what makes you think you are eligible to run a whole country, and before you say we will do this and do that WTF should I care? Your promises mean nothing and not a good reason to unite with you. Actions peak louder that words. Get your shit together than we can talk about unity. It like you said, putting kart before horse.


That's like crackhead promising you to quite after getting a fix. Worthless words

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

This is why no one takes you seriously. Somaliland has escaped the civil war? Wtf are you talking about. Somaliland and SNM initiated the civil war when Afweyne and the faqash decided to persecute the Isaaq population. Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera were leveled with aerial bombardment and mortars. 50,000 died in Hargeisa and it's surrounding areas alone. No Somali city has seen the destruction Hargeisa had. Are you high or something? Nobody can be this dense.

That wasn't even a civil war, that was just a rebellion being crushed. The civil started in 1991. You cannot deny that.

I wasn't talking about that. Since 1991 SL has escaped the civil war relatively unharmed.

My point still stands.

 

[Frazier]

Again, evidence that I have "raised the white flag?"

You gave up on Somali-Somali state cooperation, what else do you meant?


so why do you think SL and Somalia will be allies once SL gets recognition? The answer to that question is that they will not be allies, they will be rivals trying to dominate the Horn. Whenever there will be a dispute between, Somalia and Somaliland, Ethiopia shall side with Somaliland, because they want to further break apart the unity of the Somali people.

Wait a sec, you really do think Somali unity is compromised? Well let me tell you that it is not compromised, because if it was the country called Somalia, would not exist today, in any shape or form?

Somali unity has been destabilised, with a strong government and no foreign meddling in our internal affairs, Somali unity can be fixed

Lets see. PL, GM, SW, JL all operate independently from the central government with strong relations with Ethiopia and Kenya.

Somalia exists out of convenience, best believe if any other Federal state had the choice they'd separate from Somalia.

 

[Prince Abubu]

That wasn't even a civil war, that was just a rebellion being crushed. The civil started in 1991. You cannot deny that.

I wasn't talking about that. Since 1991 SL has escaped the civil war relatively unharmed.

My point still stands.

Spoken like a true censored. f*ck off.

Also, the civil war started in 1988.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Obviously you not because you support Somalia, a country that runs on 4.5 power sharing system. Muuh Qabiil on steroids.

Of course the brain dead doqon who suffers from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome is in denial so he deflects the illness to someone else, who is immune to that terrible disease.

Well you said it yourself, Somalia is a failed and weak country that can not administer itself. A modern colony basically. You can't simply say "wait for us to fix our and shit and than try unity again" This is exactly what I meant with Somalia's crab effect, instead of working on your mess or setting SL off you rather to keep SL and rest of federal states hostage to your incompetency for eternity.

In that case We are better off separated on from Somalia, no?

We are not keeping you hostage. SL as a illegal secessionist state can do whatever they want until the time comes, when unity has been completed in the south and so we can finally conduct clan reconciliation and therefore unity in the whole of Somalia can be restored. But for now, do whatever you want.

More and more excuses. Somaliland is not obligated to defeat Al Shabaab, our hands are full.

If you can't run your own city without foreign muscles what makes you think you are eligible to run a whole country, and before you say we will do this and do that WTF should I care? Your promises mean nothing and not a good reason to unite with you. Actions peak louder that words. Get your shit together than we can talk about unity. It like you said, putting kart before horse.

Why are making up shit? I've never said SL should fix Al Shabaab problems, we'll do that ourselves. But once that is complete and unity and stability has returned, then we should fully discuss on ways of integrating SL back to Somalia.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

Spoken like a true faqash. f*ck off.

Also, the civil war started in 1988.

Sxb its facts, deal with it. Cities got bombed, people were massacred.

I don't support what MSB did whatsoever, he was a savage, a heartless dictator.

 

[Frazier]

Of course the brain dead doqon who suffers from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome is in denial so he deflects the illness to someone else, who is immune to that terrible disease.

I know the truth hurts isn't it. Somalia 4.5 system signifies everything wrong with "muh qabiil" sleep and wake to it

We are not keeping you hostage. SL as a illegal secessionist state can do whatever they want until the time comes, when unity has been completed in the south and so we can finally conduct clan reconciliation and therefore unity in the whole of Somalia can be restored. But for now, do whatever you want.

So basically, you have no response to my earlier posts, that you are incompetent and dysfunctional city state that can't extent its control beyond Mogadishu and hold the reast of the country as hostage. Understood.

Why are making up shit? I've never said SL should fix Al Shabaab problems, we'll do that ourselves. But once that is complete and unity and stability has returned, then we should fully discuss on ways of integrating SL back to Somalia.

What else do you mean with "unity" explain this concept for us. Does unity with Somaliland imply sending weapons, ammunition, soldiers, supplies???? If so than you are asking help from SL and we couldn't be more happy to decline.

Good luck on your 100 year war to liberate Mogadishu of Al-shabaab and ilma AMISOM

 

[mrcool]

Yes, but they don't want to help their southern brethren because they suffer from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome.

Instead of leading the country they want to seperate, they know they're Somali, its a real shame indeed.

 

[Gambar]

Can you bring anything other than "muhqabiil"? It's neither funny nor original.

Somaliland today is doing better than under any administration southern or otherwise. It is about to have another free and fair election and a peaceful transfer of power. It is undergoing economic and infrastructure development with no AID or loans. It will soon increase it's export and import capacity with the development of Berbera port, something the southern administration has tried to stop unsuccessfully many times. It's population has a democratic and representative government that takes it's concerns seriously. It's elders are respected and the clan elders have a positive input in the peace within the country. Unlike the south where the elders are used for target practice or turned into barbecue meat by alshabab. Why would we give up all that? For what, for braindead Southerners and Buuqlanders who can't even stop killing eachother? Pull the other one.

I feel secondhand embarrassment for him.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

You gave up on Somali-Somali state cooperation, what else do you meant?

Somali-Somali state cooperation doesn't need to exist when both Somalia and Somaliland are the same country.

Lets see. PL, GM, SW, JL all operate independently from the central government with strong relations with Ethiopia and Kenya.

Somalia exists out of convenience, best believe if any other Federal state had the choice they'd separate from Somalia

With the power they have, they would've done that years ago.

know the truth hurts isn't it. Somalia 4.5 system signifies everything wrong with "muh qabiil" sleep and wake to it

Why do you keep on mentioning 4.5 system. Enough of your strawman arguments

I don't support 4.5 system, whereas you support SL so I believe my diagnosis tells me that it is you who is suffering from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome. I hope you get better.

What else do you mean with "unity" explain this concept for us. Does unity with Somaliland imply sending weapons, ammunition, soldiers, supplies???? If so than you are asking help from SL and we couldn't be more happy to decline.

Good luck on your 100 year war to liberate Mogadishu of Al-shabaab and ilma AMISOM

No it does not. Unity means working together for the common good of the country in terms of economy, infrastructure, society etc, something that "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome sufferers cannot comprehend since their logic has been eaten away by the qabyaalad parasite.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

I feel secondhand embarrassment for him.

But why though, I do not understand you at all.

If you don't like what I'm saying you can try to refute me or shut the f*ck up. Simple.

 

[Gambar]

But why though, I do not understand you at all.

If you don't like what I'm saying you can try to refute me or shut the f*ck up. Simple.

How about you shut the f*ck up about Somaliland and your corny muh qabiil schtick?

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

How about you shut the f*ck up about Somaliland and your corny muh qabiil schtick?

I'm just adding my two cents onto things along with engaging in discussion.

I don't see you doing the same, other than moan and whinge at my posts.

 

[Gambar]

I'm just adding my two cents onto things along with engaging in discussion.

I don't see you doing the same, other than moan and whinge at my posts.

You don’t add anything besides your corny muh qabiil schtick.

 

[Merchant of Mogadishu]

You don’t add anything besides your corny muh qabiil schtick.

Of course that's what someone who doesn't read any of my posts thoroughly says.

 

[Frazier]

Somali-Somali state cooperation doesn't need to exist when both Somalia and Somaliland are the same country.

You said if Somaliland become a country, it will not cooperate with Somalia meaning you gave up on Somali-Somali cooperation on the state level. Your opinion of what should Somaliland and Somalia become have nothing to do with the hypothetical question u raised.

With the power they have, they would've done that years ago.

Bottom line, Somali unity does not exist, the bilateral relations between federal states and Neighboring countries are more stronger than with the central government. If any other region wants to secede it up to them.

Why do you keep on mentioning 4.5 system. Enough of your strawman arguments

I don't support 4.5 system, whereas you support SL so I believe my diagnosis tells me that it is you who is suffering from "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome. I hope you get better.

Because you can't say I support Somalia as country, and than back peddle and say I don't support the system and politicians. If you don't than why should SL unite with you??

That's like me saying I support SL but not the government. Do u see how pathetic and self contradicting that sound, calling for the unity with a government you don't acknowledge, you can't make this shit up.

I'm not going to be shady and ambiguous as you are to my believes, I stand by Somaliland 1 man 1 vote system. Man up and own the 4.5 muh qabiil cult your advocating for.

No it does not. Unity means working together for the common good of the country in terms of economy, infrastructure, society etc, something that "Muh Qabiil" Syndrome sufferers does not comprehend since their logic has been eaten away by the qabyaalad parasite.

That is impossible to reach under a federal system. Every state wants more aid, development, funds and representation. Lets not kid ourselves, utopia you're describing will never materialize after 1000 years, because any state that fails to get what it wants from SFG, will simply turn into ajnabis compromising your failed unity even further. A zero sum game. That is, if your even lucky to reach this stage, and secure Mogadishu by the end of the century.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

When all three candidates are censoreds then u finally realize Maamulka Sland is not serious and does not want to become Jamhuuriyad