What about puntland?
2023 FGS Budget Review
- Thread starter Hilmaam
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Hilmaam
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Majority of somaliland money comes from customs taxes. Here are locations and revenues. For some reason was expecting alot more money from Wajaale
The rest of domestic revenue comes from inland taxes
| Customs_Station | Budget_Forecast | Actual_Collection | Difference | Percentage |
| Hargeysa | $ 184,423.61 | $ 492,162.87 | $ 307,739.26 | 167% |
| Hargeysa Airport | $ 7,797,807.53 | $ 10,263,419.51 | $ 2,465,611.97 | 32% |
| Berbera | $ 148,482,948.27 | $ 119,900,048.91 | $ (28,582,899.37) | -19% |
| Burco | $ 370,994.82 | $ 1,267,939.60 | $ 896,944.78 | 242% |
| Borama | $ 3,385,447.65 | $ 8,717,459.34 | $ 5,332,011.69 | 157% |
| C/Gaabo | $ 240,499.58 | $ 616,592.91 | $ 376,093.33 | 156% |
| Kalabaydh | $ 36,239,374.57 | $ 26,809,756.93 | $ (9,429,617.64) | -26% |
| Seylac | $ 13,461,323.39 | $ 10,824,709.66 | $ (2,636,613.73) | -20% |
| Caynabo | $ 282,322.67 | $ 573,905.39 | $ 291,582.72 | 103% |
| Las-Canod | $ 1,062,888.81 | $ 70,613.71 | $ (992,275.10) | -93% |
| C/Cado | $ 516,916.05 | $ 247,035.10 | $ (269,880.95) | -52% |
| Abaarso | $ 59,092.75 | $ 81,146.60 | $ 22,053.86 | 37% |
| Dilla | $ 8,561.72 | $ 9,377.81 | $ 816.09 | 10% |
| A/Baday | $ 304,346.79 | $ 587,442.78 | $ 283,095.99 | 93% |
| L/Haya | $ 3,167.16 | $ 5,757.63 | $ 2,590.47 | 82% |
| F/Weyne | $ 400,113.13 | $ 410,711.92 | $ 10,598.79 | 3% |
| Beer | $ 34,001.48 | $ 39,448.79 | $ 5,447.31 | 16% |
| Xariirad | $ 439,028.72 | $ 1,753,568.12 | $ 1,314,539.40 | 299% |
| B/Gubadle | $ 3,970,680.94 | $ 2,788,377.52 | $ (1,182,303.42) | -30% |
| Wajaale | $ 3,046,168.12 | $ 2,541,039.26 | $ (505,128.86) | -17% |
| Total | $ 220,290,107.76 | $ 188,000,514.37 | $ (32,289,593.39) | -15% |
The rest of domestic revenue comes from inland taxes
| Town | Budget Forecast | Actual Revenue Collection | Difference | Percentage |
| Hargeysa | 45,631,910 | 45,692,292 | 60,382 | 0% |
| Berbera | 10,114,546 | 7,975,891 | -2,138,655 | -21% |
| Burco | 2,445,446 | 2,205,982 | -239,464 | -10% |
| Borama | 2,568,654 | 2,291,519 | -277,135 | -11% |
| C/Gaabo | 667,853 | 590,863 | -76,990 | -12% |
| Gabiley | 1,453,608 | 1,065,279 | -388,329 | -27% |
| Seylac | 159,805 | 147,310 | -12,494 | -8% |
| Caynabo | 145,747 | 132,760 | -12,987 | -9% |
| Las-Canod | 535,076 | 7,903 | -527,173 | -99% |
| Oodwayne | 75,439 | 68,967 | -6,472 | -9% |
| Total | 63,798,083 | 60,178,766 | -3,619,317 | -6% |
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The FGS doesn't exist on its own merits and strength. It was kickstarted and still lives on support by the international community and these arrangements between Somaliland and FGS were supported by those partners. They would not allow Somalia to politicize aid and try to force a settlement out of Somaliland using their money, which is well within their rights.
The stalemate is just a lack of acceptance by Somalia. It can't exert its sovereignty and it won't give up. Politics precedes everything else. FGS refers to Somaliland as an FMS because it's trying to delegitimize Somaliland's independence, nothing more.
One example:
If my reading is correct it costs around $750m a year to keep the FGS from collapsing:
UNSOS budget is 500 million (UN assessed contributions)
ATMIS budget is around 250 million (90% EU, some AU etc)
You could probably add world bank and other donor funded budget support to get up to around $1 billion.
Hilmaam
VIP
I cant find any recent reports
Hilmaam
VIP
Not much details on where this money nor do I quite follow what its trying to convey definlty not an accountent. is it coming from is it Gele energy, UAE and ports, or people in west. But impressive its being tracked. Overall somaliland report is most thorough report I have seen come out of somalia
Hilmaam
VIP
Overall budgets like this will not make a dent in major infrastructure needed in somalia the country is huge and population is too spread out. The roads are majority earthen, the electrcity infrastructure is bad and very expensive, the airports need expansion invesment for big cites and smaller towns need airports that aren't dirt strips, you need waste management, and water plants. The west needs to up the money maybe will happen in future with debt relief or maybe they want stronger institutions. The other option is our governments finding own revenue sources whether its taping into diaspora or we get lucky with natural resource find. Whether its FMS or FGS its very tough environment with these very small budgets even subsaharan poor country like Kenya has 28 billion dollar budget yes they have more people but still it doesnt explain huge difference
Hilmaam
VIP
Here is puntland expected budget. The way I read it 145 million is budget for year. 113M fixed costs. 32M is projects. The 230M off budget is NGOs, UN, and budget support for local cities its marked as off budget so guessing it doesn't go through ministry of finance. Which makes sense as somalia gets huge money from UN and NGOs which isnt tracked anywhere else for other FMS and FGS
0117
Reborn
Somaliland never inheritley takes transfers from FGS (this transfer is funded from IC not FGS tax).
The reason why it took it in 2022 was due economic circumstances Musa Bihi took to the Waaheen Fire in April 2022 which was a significant loss to the population and the $13M received was distributed to the traders and part of the rebuilding of the market.
0117
Reborn
You're wrong to attribute $329 million to Benadir alone.
There are sources of government revenue that are country wide like passport and overflight fees.
Garaad Awal
War is coming.
Not a single cent from Somalia goes to SL. Aid organizations deal directly with SL. Those orgs that don’t comply were told to rightly f*ck off. SL will continue to rely more on increasing our revenue from making economic deals to increasing our tax-collecting capacity.
Garaad Awal
War is coming.
Border tax is collected at Kalabaydh. Which is why the village of Kalabaydh in Gabiley district collects more than the urban center of Wajaale also in Gabiley district.
You're right, it is about 305 million. Petroleum and air navigation fees were the only clear sources of revenue collected nation-wide. I'm almost certain that all port fees are from Xamar Harbour and Aden Cadde Airport.
Hilmaam
VIP
Not precise but shows some of defintions in english when i threw table into chatgpt
ChatGPT
Certainly! Here's the table:
ChatGPT
Certainly! Here's the table:
| Director | Deputy Director | Head of School | Deputy Headmaster | Secretary | Treasurer | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Presidency | 224 | 31 | 1 | 12 | 35 | 16 |
| House of Representatives | 85 | 16 | 1 | 10 | 24 | - |
| Ministry of Finance | 796 | 13 | 2 | 9 | 154 | 494 |
| Ministry of Internal Affairs | 147 | 1 | 1 | 12 | 52 | 31 |
| Ministry of Information, Culture and Diaspora Affairs | 64 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 20 | 23 |
| Agency for Reconstruction and Development | 10 | - | 1 | 1 | 5 | - |
| General Administration | 54 | - | 1 | 33 | 15 | 1 |
| Election Commission | 9 | - | 1 | 2 | 2 | - |
| State TV | 40 | - | 1 | 2 | 2 | 10 |
| Bureau of Census | 11 | - | 1 | 5 | 2 | 1 |
| Ministry of Security and DDR | 60 | - | 1 | 6 | 40 | 5 |
| Ministry of Justice | 42 | 1 | 1 | 9 | 13 | 3 |
| General Oversight | 12 | - | 1 | - | 6 | 4 |
| Human Rights Agency | 26 | - | 1 | 3 | 15 | 1 |
| General Audit Office | 161 | - | 10 | 16 | 90 | - |
| Office of the Attorney General | 37 | - | 2 | 17 | 15 | - |
| Ground Forces | 14 | - | 3 | 1 | 2 | 5 |
| Ministry of Livestock | 103 | 3 | 1 | 6 | 45 | 27 |
| Ministry of Labour | 84 | - | 1 | 4 | 28 | 27 |
| Immigration Office | 76 | - | - | 7 | 17 | 12 |
| Ministry of Districts | 57 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 17 | 28 |
| Ministry of Planning, Finance and International Cooperation | 48 | - | 1 | 4 | 25 | 10 |
| Ministry of Trade and Industry | 32 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 19 | 1 |
| Trade Mission | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Ministry of Health | 41 | - | 1 | 5 | 20 | 10 |
| Central Biyaha Development Agency | 97 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 40 | 30 |
| Office of Biyaha Information Management | 20 | - | 1 | 3 | 2 | 10 |
| Maritime Development Agency | 33 | - | 1 | 4 | 12 | 9 |
| Ministry of Rural Development and Camel Milk | 41 | 1 | 5 | 12 | 16 | 5 |
| Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries | 46 | - | 1 | 5 | 10 | 19 |
| Ministry of Air and Seaport Affairs | 124 | - | 1 | 14 | 32 | 45 |
| Ministry of Marine Resources and Fisheries | 84 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 19 | 54 |
| Diaspora Relations Office | 1 | - | 1 | - | - | - |
| Ministry of Health | 654 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 60 | 83 |
| Central Government Affairs Office of Puntland | 18 | - | 1 | 12 | 2 | 1 |
| Ministry of Education | 161 | - | 1 | 9 | 26 | 83 |
| Ministry of Youth, Sports and Culture | 85 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 35 | 38 |
| Ministry of Women and Family Affairs | 50 | - | 2 | 8 | 21 | 12 |
| Ministry of Rehabilitation | 41 | 1 | 4 | 23 | 3 | 7 |
| HIV/AIDS Combat Office (PAC) | 22 | - | 1 | 5 | 8 | - |
| Community Development Agency | 12 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
| Staffing Agency for Government | 7 | - | 1 | 2 | - | - |
| Total | 3,729 | 77 | 56 | 268 | 968 | 1,114 |
Hilmaam
VIP
here is breakdown of the domestic revenue for fgs 224.63 million from taxes which is table above
Hilmaam
VIP
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