A somali family are celebrating Christmas and they also have a dog

"Your country" isaaq girl thinks she's cadaan
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You somali niggas and your inferiority complex with white men will never suprise me๐Ÿ’€ I clearly said "your country" indicating that he as a man has a duty to rebuild his country, because believe it or not Somalia is incredibly misogynistic and won't allow a woman to rule.
 

hinters

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I've seen wild dogs in Hargeisa but I don't think they keep them in their homes like this
Somalis don't believe in pets wallahi. In the eyes of the average somali at least back home animals are only for meat, milk, and transportation/cargo. So there are plenty of wild dogs and cats in Somali cities because of course somalis don't eat cats and dogs.

My mom told me it was a popular kids game in Kismayo to throw rocks at cats and dogs too.

edit: I meant kismayo I had a brain fart idk why I typed hargeisa first
:damn:
 
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People saying "mind your business", this attitude is foreign and contrary to Islam. If they're Muslim you have a duty to give naseehah. If they take it or not is up to them.

Why were there not, among the generations before you, persons possessed of balanced good sense, prohibiting (men) from mischief in the earth - except a few among them whom We saved (from harm)? But the wrong-doers pursued the enjoyment of the good things of life which were given them, and persisted in sin.

[Hud 11:116]
 
However somali men will always be bottom of the barrel and treated as second class citizens no matter where you go, because you weren't man enough to even rebuild your own land and have to constantly rely on cadaan men's sympathy.
BS. Ive travelled to 20+ countries and I know we definetly get love out there. The treatment I get in some of the countries was like a red carpet affair. Solely for being a dark, tall somali man.
 

Baarisiyomoos

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Somalis don't believe in pets wallahi. In the eyes of the average somali at least back home animals are only for meat, milk, and transportation/cargo. So there are plenty of wild dogs and cats in Somali cities because of course somalis don't eat cats and dogs.

My mom told me it was a popular kids game in Kismayo to throw rocks at cats and dogs too.

edit: I meant kismayo I had a brain fart idk why I typed hargeisa first
:damn:
My dad told me this too he grew up in Xamar lol. even when I went back a couple years ago I saw kids throwing rocks at this little kitten and told them to stop.
 

ZBR

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Okay and ? Are they related to you in any way or form if not mind your damn business. Just because someone shares the same ethnicity as you doesn't mean you can tell them what to do with their lives, for fucks sakes somalis are probaly the only retarded people who cannot acknowledge this simple fact.

Like don't yall have your own lives, goals, purposes? Why is everything about gossip with you people. I even see grown ass abtis and habaryars gossiping what a random somali person does with their life, literally pathetic.
Everyone who liked this has took part in normalizing Shirk amongst Muslims, there are hadiths that explicitly commands us against their festivities

A spit in the face of the sahababa and the prophets sunnah for their sacrifices against the degeneracy that is paganism
 

Basra

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Shimbiris

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Dogs are actually, funnily enough, an original part of our culture. They seem to have been lost and forgotten rapidly after the 1800s or early 1900s due to the mentality in the magaalo spreading throughout the country in time:

The settled Somal have a holy horror of dogs, and, Wahhabi-like, treat manโ€™s faithful slave most cruelly. The wild people are more humane; they pay two ewes for a good colley, and demand a two-year-old sheep as โ€œdiyatโ€ or blood-money for the animal, if killed.

But during the 1800s it seems most nomadic Somali and even some reer Tuulo had dogs so much so that you could tell they were nearby through the sound of barking:

As the sun sank towards the west, Long Guled complained bitterly of the raw breeze from the hills. We passed many villages, distinguished by the barking of dogs and the bleating of flocks, on their way to the field: the unhappy Raghe, however, who had now become our protege, would neither venture into a settlement, nor bivouac amongst the lions.

We passed the day under a tree: the camels escorted by my two attendants, and the women, did not arrive till sunset, having occupied about eight hours in marching as many miles. Fearing lions, we pitched inside the kraal, despite crying children, scolding wives, cattle rushing about, barking dogs, flies and ticks, filth and confinement.

At 10 P.M. we halted at Hagaioo Geera Dohiba: this was formerly the dwelling-place of Hagaioo, chief of the Woemah (Dankali), but the Eesa Somali having made a successful attack upon him, and swept off all his cattle, he deserted it. During the night the barking of dogs betrayed the vicinity of a Bedoo encampment, and caused us to keep a good look-out. Water being too scarce to make bread, I contented myself with coffee and parched grain.

At 1 A.M. on the 5th February, the wind having decreased we started. Passing through the pass of the
Rer Essa, the barking of dogs caused us some little uneasiness, as it betrayed the vicinity of the Bedoo,
whether friend or foe we knew not.

We halted a day at Gudingaras, wishing to see the migration of a tribe. Before dawn, on the 30th
November, the Somali Stentor proclaimed from the ridge-top, โ€œFetch your camels!โ€”Load your goods!โ€” We march!โ€ About 8 A.M. we started in the rear. The spectacle was novel to me. Some 150 spearmen, assisted by their families, were driving before them divisions which, in total, might amount to 200 cows, 7000 camels, and 11,000 or 12,000 sheep and goats. Only three wore the Bal or feather, which denotes the brave; several, however, had the other decorationโ€”an ivory armlet.24 Assisted by the boys, whose heads were shaved in a cristated fashion truly ridiculous, and large pariah dogs with bushy tails, they drove the beasts and carried the colts, belaboured runaway calves, and held up the hind legs of struggling sheep. The sick, of whom there were many,โ€”dysentery being at the time prevalent,โ€”were carried upon camels with their legs protruding in front from under the hide-cover. Many of the dromedaries showed the Habr Awal brand 25: laden with hutting materials and domestic furniture, they were led by the maidens: the matrons, followed, bearing their progeny upon their backs, bundled in the shoulder-lappets of cloth or hide. The smaller girls, who, in addition to the boysโ€™ crest, wore a circlet of curly hair round the head, carried the weakling lambs and kids, or aided their mammas in transporting the baby. Apparently in great fear of the โ€œAllโ€ or Commando, the Bedouins anxiously inquired if I had my โ€œfireโ€ with me26, and begged us to take the post of honourโ€”the van. As our little party pricked forward, the camels started in alarm, and we were surprised to find that this tribe did not know the difference between horses and mules. Whenever the boys lost time in sport or quarrel, they were threatened by their fathers with the jaws of that ogre, the white stranger; and the women exclaimed, as they saw us approach, โ€œHere comes the old man who knows knowledge!โ€27

Source: First Footsteps in East Africa by Richard Burton. He travelled across much of the north all the way to Harar and many times was a guest to different local leaders, meeting everything from various different Daroods, Isaaqs, Dirs and even Hawiyes so it's interesting how he describes the presence of dogs like this as a normal part of Somali culture and not isolated to one tribe.

There is also the fact that dogs were part of the original Cushitic cultural package when our ancestors began migrating from Sudan as early as 3000 BCE. They brought cattle, goats, sheep, donkeys and dogs with them and display as much in several of their cave paintings:

The rock paintings, which include renderings of dogs and sheep as well as human figures, were discovered at Dhambalin, in a unique sandstone shelter close to the Red Sea in Somaliland, a breakaway state from war-torn Somalia.


Arabians were similarly laden with dogs historically. They even have a specific and currently well-known breed the Bedouin used to be quite affectionate toward to the point of letting them into their tents:



But with them as well the Reer Magaal (Xadhar) mentality toward them, that I think grew more extreme since movements like that of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, spread and became more uniform. Nowhere is it stated they are xaraan, saaxiib. It's just their saliva and getting it on you requiring you redo your ablution before praying. The only mention of dogs in the Qur'an itself, from what I remember, is like one story that was actually positive.



They are good, loyal and useful beasts especially for one on a farm/ranch. Somalis need to let this absurd fear and hatred of them go, I reckon.
 

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But with them as well the Reer Magaal (Xadhar) mentality toward them, that I think grew more extreme since movements like that of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, spread and became more uniform. Nowhere is it stated they are xaraan, saaxiib. It's just their saliva and getting it on you requiring you redo your ablution before praying. The only mention of dogs in the Qur'an itself, from what I remember, is like one story that was actually positive.



They are good, loyal and useful beasts especially for one on a farm/ranch. Somalis need to let this absurd fear and hatred of them go, I reckon.
I think keeping dogs in the house as a pet is not a good thing, there's Hadith saying "anyone who keeps dogs in his house without purpose(hunting, guarding crops..) will loose large part of his Ajar everyday".

What's Wahabess stance on the dogs?
 

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Dogs are actually, funnily enough, an original part of our culture. They seem to have been lost and forgotten rapidly after the 1800s or early 1900s due to the mentality in the magaalo spreading throughout the country in time:



But during the 1800s it seems most nomadic Somali and even some reer Tuulo had dogs so much so that you could tell they were nearby through the sound of barking:











Source: First Footsteps in East Africa by Richard Burton. He travelled across much of the north all the way to Harar and many times was a guest to different local leaders, meeting everything from various different Daroods, Isaaqs, Dirs and even Hawiyes so it's interesting how he describes the presence of dogs like this as a normal part of Somali culture and not isolated to one tribe.

There is also the fact that dogs were part of the original Cushitic cultural package when our ancestors began migrating from Sudan as early as 3000 BCE. They brought cattle, goats, sheep, donkeys and dogs with them and display as much in several of their cave paintings:




Arabians were similarly laden with dogs historically. They even have a specific and currently well-known breed the Bedouin used to be quite affectionate toward to the point of letting them into their tents:



But with them as well the Reer Magaal (Xadhar) mentality toward them, that I think grew more extreme since movements like that of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, spread and became more uniform. Nowhere is it stated they are xaraan, saaxiib. It's just their saliva and getting it on you requiring you redo your ablution before praying. The only mention of dogs in the Qur'an itself, from what I remember, is like one story that was actually positive.



They are good, loyal and useful beasts especially for one on a farm/ranch. Somalis need to let this absurd fear and hatred of them go, I reckon.


@Shimbiris u r NOT going to convince me Dogs are in History of Somalis. IMPOSSIBLE. Maybe before they became Muslims and were pagan Waaqs








 

Shimbiris

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I think keeping dogs in the house as a pet is not a good thing, there's Hadith saying "anyone who keeps dogs in his house without purpose(hunting, guarding crops..) will loose large part of his Ajar everyday".

What's Wahabess stance on the dogs?

To be fair, the idea of pets, even among gaalo, is a rather recent phenomenon. Dogs were mostly always, as they were to Somali and Arab nomads, work animals. Yes, people got affectionate with them and played them but their main purpose was to guard flocks, help move them along, herd them, protect weaker animals and so on. They had a purpose on a farm, ranch or in a nomadic setting. They were not "pets" kept simply for the indulgence of their owner.

As for "Wahhabis" I honestly can't recall seeing direct proscriptions on it. I don't even recall Sheikh Abdul-Aziz ibn Abdullah Aal Al-Sheikh talking about it but someone can enlighten me. I think what people claim is due to "Wahhabis" is more just ignorant reer magaals taking the stuff on their saliva a step too far and probably more disliking them because of how out of place dogs can be in magaalo compared to the miyi. In towns they're just wandering strays who sometimes cause more trouble than any good.
 

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( ู…ูŽู†ู’ ุฃูŽู…ู’ุณูŽูƒูŽ ูƒูŽู„ู’ุจู‹ุง ููŽุฅูู†ู‘ูŽู‡ู ูŠูŽู†ู’ู‚ูุตู ูƒูู„ู‘ูŽ ูŠูŽูˆู’ู…ู ู…ูู†ู’ ุนูŽู…ูŽู„ูู‡ู ู‚ููŠุฑูŽุงุทูŒ ุฅูู„ุง ูƒูŽู„ู’ุจูŽ ุญูŽุฑู’ุซู ุฃูŽูˆู’ ู…ูŽุงุดููŠูŽุฉู ) .

He who gets a dog has his good deeds diminished by a qirat or carat exept for pastoralism and
and agriculture.



 

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