Aabo Ethiopia does it again.

Tukraq

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Read my post again, the situation is bad. Somalia is very close to follow other African nations into the resource trap.

Also I highly disagree with allowing more regional power because in that case: tribal govs will gain more power and marginalise anyone outside of their tribe from the economic benefits and wtf is gonna happen to the regions with no oil and are poorer with no real resources? They'll be completely screwed.
other African countries resource trap serves few politicians, serving tribes and all the regions means more are benefiting from the wealth then a centralized capital city only and politicians benefiting version and if you checked the reports
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pretty much every region is eating with the offshore outside Somaliland which is renegade anyways
 
The ordinary Somali can convince their diaspora counter parts to each send them 50 a month through dahabshiil, tawakal, taaj, iftiin, Amal bank u name it, if they have many family members it adds up lol
lol 40% of money flow in Somalia is through remittance (as u said) and it's the biggest 'income' TO Somalia but how is that a good thing? It puts stress on diaspora and if the banks or whatever 'shut down' it will take a couple months for people to starve. Also, Ethiopian and Eritrean diaspora both give big remittance to their countries too.
 
other African countries resource trap serves few politicians, serving tribes and all the regions means more are benefiting from the wealth then a centralized capital city only and politicians benefiting version and if you checked the reports
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pretty much every region is eating with the offshore outside Somaliland which is renegade anyways
How is every regio eating? There's about to be a drought and people are starving already. Also, vast majority of money from diaspora is going to Northern regions. The South isn't getting shit. I'd like to see the link of the image.
 

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lol 40% of money flow in Somalia is through remittance (as u said) and it's the biggest 'income' TO Somalia but how is that a good thing? It puts stress on diaspora and if the banks or whatever 'shut down' it will take a couple months for people to starve. Also, Ethiopian and Eritrean diaspora both give big remittance to their countries too.
population we have comparable diaspora to Ethiopia but they have 150 million more people to feed which isn't happening lol, on the other hand 1 to 2 million diaspora supporting 12 to 14 mil isn't unreasonable remember most of the world lives on a dollar a day so this could be a major head start
 

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How is every regio eating? There's about to be a drought and people are starving already. Also, vast majority of money from diaspora is going to Northern regions. The South isn't getting shit. I'd like to see the link of the image.
that image is about oil, were obviously not eating yet but the oil distribution shows the south will be eating more from oil sxb, however every region on our coast has it other than some parts of Somaliland
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If. Ethiopia is much more fragile than Somalia. The powder keg could still erupt any moment, and there seems to be no significant down trend in tensions.
People love riding this 'ethiopia could split' train lol. Their centralised gov is very strong and puts down any small flames around the country very quickly. Most Ethios don't share the sentiments of those extremists. If anything we should worry about SL and PL leaving Somalia, and if that happens even if we have full/most control of our oil most of it will be gone with SL and PL.
 

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People love riding this 'ethiopia could split' train lol. Their centralised gov is very strong and puts down any small flames around the country very quickly. Most Ethios don't share the sentiments of those extremists. If anything we should worry about SL and PL leaving Somalia, and if that happens even if we have full/most control of our oil most of it will be gone with SL and PL.
PL would never leave Somalia as they don't want too, and Somaliland holds very little oil with the map I showed u, also them leaving isn't realistic as they can't even do so currently while sovereign, trends with armed opposition against the Somaliland government from within actually shows it trending to coming back actually
 
PL would never leave Somalia as they don't want too, and Somaliland holds very little oil with the map I showed u, also them leaving isn't realistic as they can't even do so currently while sovereign, trends with armed opposition against the Somaliland government from within actually shows it trending to coming back actually
They may not leave physically and place borders but they have their own laws and regulations which make it hard for the gov in muqdisho to operate. They're just dogs in a leash, if any significant political shift happens towards their favour I wouldn't be surprised if they actually leave.
 

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They may not leave physically and place borders but they have their own laws and regulations which make it hard for the gov in muqdisho to operate. They're just dogs in a leash, if any significant political shift happens towards their favour I wouldn't be surprised if they actually leave.
its almost impossible for them to "leave" what more can they do then they have done in the last 30 years? the world docent want to give them recognition and that won't change like I said with the current conflict its trending towards them staying
 
current conflict its trending towards them staying
Al-shabab is advancing north more and more and there will def be more killings of officials this year sbx. SL and PL def have their hands on these events. U act like Somalia will never get another terrorist attack again.
 
People love riding this 'ethiopia could split' train lol. Their centralised gov is very strong and puts down any small flames around the country very quickly. Most Ethios don't share the sentiments of those extremists. If anything we should worry about SL and PL leaving Somalia, and if that happens even if we have full/most control of our oil most of it will be gone with SL and PL.

You're making it sound as if it isn't a very realistic possibility. As if ethnic tensions aren't at the heart of Ehtiopia's problems. If I remember correctly, it was just last month there was a regional coup attempt stirred by fervent nationalism leading to the death of a regional leader and the chief of their army. They shut down the internet across the whole nation to prevent sparking a rise up. That doesn't sound very stable.

Perhaps most Ethiopians don't share the 'extremist' sentiment, but certainly enough do. Just like people here assume the average Somali is a rabid clannist foaming at mouth to exterminate the cadow.

PL will not secede, but that is besides the point.
 
You're making it sound as if it isn't a very realistic possibility. As if ethnic tensions aren't at the heart of Ehtiopia's problems. If I remember correctly, it was just last month there was a regional coup attempt stirred by fervent nationalism leading to the death of a regional leader and the chief of their army. They shut down the internet across the whole nation to prevent sparking a rise up. That doesn't sound very stable.

Perhaps most Ethiopians don't share the 'extremist' sentiment, but certainly enough do. Just like people here assume the average Somali is a rabid clannist foaming at mouth to exterminate the cadow.

PL will not secede, but that is besides the point.
Never said these problems don't exist but I do admit that the gov has responded well to these sparks. Also, they'll have a long period of unstopped prosperity after this bs. The extremists KNOW that they can't make any significant impact or displace the president and if anything the president has IMPROVED ethnic tensions.

Clan tensions in Somalia are another bread though. The gov is fragile af. journalists like Nadayeh, politicians (Abfi Osman) are killed every year and we have no political ally apart from Turkey. How can we talk about Ethiopian regional leaders getting killed RARELY when ours die so often along with civilians it's nearly predictable.
 
Never said these problems don't exist but I do admit that the gov has responded well to these sparks. Also, they'll have a long period of unstopped prosperity after this bs. The extremists KNOW that they can't make any significant impact or displace the president and if anything the president has IMPROVED ethnic tensions.

Clan tensions in Somalia are another bread though. The gov is fragile af. journalists like Nadayeh, politicians (Abfi Osman) are killed every year and we have no political ally apart from Turkey. How can we talk about Ethiopian regional leaders getting killed RARELY when ours die so often along with civilians it's nearly predictable.

Clan tensions in Somalia are far less significant and threatening to the state than the ethnic tensions in Ethiopia. There is comparatively little violence between clans. 'Clan' violence is almost entirely secluded to skirmishes between bordering pastoralist sub-sub-sub clans.

Those killings are a result of terrorism, not clannism. Let's also not forget the attempted assassination of Abiy last year.

I'm not sure what you mean by prosperity. Ethiopia's economy has been one of the fastest growing in the past decade. Nonetheless, there is division among ethnic lines.

Somalia's federal government isn't 'fragile', it's practically non-existent in most parts of the country. The government imploded, the successors impotent, and Somalia is still here. Very doubtful that would be the case for Ethiopia.
 

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Outside of the Ethiopian governmeny announcing the planting of 350 million seedlings and some staged igu sawir pictures, there is no evidence to show that this actually happened.

Check #GreenLegacyEthiopia on twitter, it's nothing impressive

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They have the best propaganda unit in Africa meanwhile 8 million were famished just last year...
 

Tukraq

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Clan tensions in Somalia are far less significant and threatening to the state than the ethnic tensions in Ethiopia. There is comparatively little violence between clans. 'Clan' violence is almost entirely secluded to skirmishes between bordering pastoralist sub-sub-sub clans.

Those killings are a result of terrorism, not clannism. Let's also not forget the attempted assassination of Abiy last year.

I'm not sure what you mean by prosperity. Ethiopia's economy has been one of the fastest growing in the past decade. Nonetheless, there is division among ethnic lines.

Somalia's federal government isn't 'fragile', it's practically non-existent in most parts of the country. The government imploded, the successors impotent, and Somalia is still here. Very doubtful that would be the case for Ethiopia.
exactly Ethiopia is a fake country, Amhara secessionists literally tried a coup a month ago, oromos have been calling for secession for decades and the Tigray since Abiys election have wanted to split and dont get me started on the somali region one spark and its over
 
Clan tensions in Somalia are far less significant and threatening to the state than the ethnic tensions in Ethiopia. There is comparatively little violence between clans. 'Clan' violence is almost entirely secluded to skirmishes between bordering pastoralist sub-sub-sub clans.

Those killings are a result of terrorism, not clannism. Let's also not forget the attempted assassination of Abiy last year.

I'm not sure what you mean by prosperity. Ethiopia's economy has been one of the fastest growing in the past decade. Nonetheless, there is division among ethnic lines.

Somalia's federal government isn't 'fragile', it's practically non-existent in most parts of the country. The government imploded, the successors impotent, and Somalia is still here. Very doubtful that would be the case for Ethiopia.
U know what i mean by 'clan' conflict lol. Wether it's political, geo0political, terrorism etc...that's what I meant.

"Let's also not forget the attempted assassination of Abiy last year." loool and he's uninjured. How many assasinations happened to our Formaajo and other politicians (which are acc successful) smh.
Also, where the Somali gov IS existent it's not effective. You're right, Somalia is still here but it's just a dying carcasse, little development and no driving force forward. We think that just because there isn't an actual border war between regions that we're still a country. Couldn't be more wrong.
Ethiopia might have some ethnic division but business and development occurs BETWEEN the regions, same can't be said for Somalia.
 

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Loooool :mjlol: I highly doubt this niga is anything but an Ethiopian agent. Someone verify this clowns abtirsi:snoop: “aabo Ethiopia” kulaha :what:
You don't know the treachery of Dir in Somali Galbeed. Many of them are Oromo depending on which day of the week it is. The Finance Minister of Ethiopia is exhibit A.
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This is @CaliTedesse's uncle. You can see the evil in his eyes.
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exactly Ethiopia is a fake country, Amhara secessionists literally tried a coup a month ago, oromos have been calling for secession for decades and the Tigray since Abiys election have wanted to split and dont get me started on the somali region one spark and its over
Rumours. Tigray know they can't survive alone as a state. Also, these extremist tensions are just occurences during major change in a country, history has shown that whenever a nation 'changes' and shifts forward dormant factions wake up and try to shake the country with one last struggle. Trust me, this is but the passing of these ethnic tensions in Ethiopia. Once they're done with it, they'll be over 100 years ahead of us.

Also, those sparks u talk about in the Ogaden region have been happening for ever lol. Ogaden is 100% never gonna split now cus Abiy has made deals with the opposition group and they stopped their futile resistance.
 

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Rumours. Tigray know they can't survive alone as a state. Also, these extremist tensions are just occurences during major change in a country, history has shown that whenever a nation 'changes' and shifts forward dormant factions wake up and try to shake the country with one last struggle. Trust me, this is but the passing of these ethnic tensions in Ethiopia. Once they're done with it, they'll be over 100 years ahead of us.

Also, those sparks u talk about in the Ogaden region have been happening for ever lol. Ogaden is 100% never gonna split now cus Abiy has made deals with the opposition group and they stopped their futile resistance.
according to twitter Tigray separatist would rather join Eritrea and can't stand Oromo Abiy, Amhara literally just staged a separatist coup that killed high ranking officials and its not like oromos haven't been calling for their own country for decades, if these three split slash war the Ogaden region will defiantly also split lol
 
according to twitter Tigray separatist would rather join Eritrea and can't stand Oromo Abiy, Amhara literally just staged a separatist coup that killed high ranking officials and its not like oromos haven't been calling for their own country for decades, if these three split slash war the Ogaden region will defiantly also split lol
Eritrea hates Tigray and would never join them in a million years who cares what "twitter Tigray" nutjobs say, i've lived with eritreans. Also, look at the Oromo map, it's impossible to create ethnic borders even if they did split lol. Amhara and Oromo live with each other. These separatist groups are just very small covert militias, assasinations is about the best they can do and no more than that. Anyway I said my piece, my opinion doesn't change.
 
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