Any proof of shewa sultanate and a horn based banu makhzum dynasty

[Midas]

I've already adressed this.
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If you look at the Rasulid corpus the early ones carrying Al-Zaylai and Al-Jabarti nisba didn't claim Aqili. But then it starts around 1300s and it was formed out of elite group of Somali scholars.

So Somalis were already Muslims before the Aqili lineage descent was incorporated into their clan structure. Like i said to you before in another thread i don't think it reflects Islamization, more than it reflects the founding of newer clans and Somali saint cult.

What's intresting is that this is around the time the shafis began to gain prominence in yemen and somalia. Since the ayyubids favored the shafi madhab and so eygot in the ayyubid and later the mamluk period caused the shafis to spread both to eygot and Syria . Then make it's way down to Yemen and somalia. It's kind of funny how you have people who think somalis picked up the shafi madhab from Yemen later. When it appeared at around the same time in both.

 

[Som]

That's probably what happened they married each-other and passed on that descent through that paternally over generations.



Samaale is not the formal name, it is Muhammad Yow son of Muhammad Abd al-Rahman who is claimed to be son of Aqil , just like Abdirahman Bin Ismail Al_Jabarti alternatively known as Darood who is the son of Ismail and so on.

I am not making a statement on where it is true or not i am just sharing that most Somali clans claim Aqili, it's just a general Somali lineage claim and that Somalis of the past shared that same tradition.




You can read my other posts on this thread zero, proof to what you said. It was just bunch of Somali clans and Awfat/Awdal just expanded from the Somali coast.

Afar was known as Danakil was a seperate entity altogether.

It's all ana 3arab BS. Nobody among the major Somali clans is Arab , we have genetic evidence of this . We don't have any Arab ancestry and our west Eurasian ancestry is pre Arab . There's no way these stories are true including Darood and Isaaq Legends .if it was true it would show in genetic ancestry just like it shows in sudanese Arabs but it doesn't. Habeshas are more likely to have Arab ancestry than us

 

[Idilinaa]

It's all ana 3arab BS. Nobody among the major Somali clans is Arab , we have genetic evidence of this . We don't have any Arab ancestry and our west Eurasian ancestry is pre Arab . There's no way these stories are true including Darood and Isaaq Legends .if it was true it would show in genetic ancestry just like it shows in sudanese Arabs but it doesn't. Habeshas are more likely to have Arab ancestry than us

Throughout the Islamic period Arab was not a lineage, it was a a cultural linguistic identity:

It was clearly defined as such: Just so you all know:

''Arab is not from any of you the mother or father, but it is the language, so whoever speaks Arabic is an Arab''

So consequently it is easy to see how the lineage claims don't relate to Arab identity, but an Islamic identity, to draw a closer attachment to their religious faith. That's really what it boils down to, there is no need to read to deep into it

 

[Idilinaa]

What's intresting is that this is around the time the shafis began to gain prominence in yemen and somalia. Since the ayyubids favored the shafi madhab and so eygot in the ayyubid and later the mamluk period caused the shafis to spread both to eygot and Syria . Then make it's way down to Yemen and somalia. It's kind of funny how you have people who think somalis picked up the shafi madhab from Yemen later. When it appeared at around the same time in both.

It also gives evidence to what i've said about the regional translocalism.

Translocal relations connect and influence different localities and people at the same time. That means conditions or events at one place have an immediate impact on other connected places.

 

[Yabal]

It's all ana 3arab BS. Nobody among the major Somali clans is Arab , we have genetic evidence of this . We don't have any Arab ancestry and our west Eurasian ancestry is pre Arab . There's no way these stories are true including Darood and Isaaq Legends .if it was true it would show in genetic ancestry just like it shows in sudanese Arabs but it doesn't. Habeshas are more likely to have Arab ancestry than us

EV32 which we carry is an Arab haplogroup which originated in Mekkah.

 

[El Nino]

EV32 which we carry is an Arab haplogroup which originated in Mekkah.

E-v32 is an african haplogroup, originating in the Red Sea hills of Egypt and Sudan.

Where did you get your false info?

 

[Yabal]

E-v32 is an african haplogroup, originating in the Red Sea hills of Egypt and Sudan.

Where did you get your false info?

Nope. It originated in Mekkah.

 

[Step a side]

Nope. It originated in Mekkah. View attachment 346398View attachment 346399View attachment 346400

Cush the Akkadian welcome back my friend

 

[Yabal]

Cush the Akkadian welcome back my friend

I’m not Cush where has he gone?

 

[Yabal]

Cush the Akkadian welcome back my friend

He’s my teacher and i am his student

 

[El Nino]

Nope. It originated in Mekkah. View attachment 346398View attachment 346399View attachment 346400

Your text talks about semitic re-migration to the Fertile Crescent, it doesn’t talk about at all if E-v32 migrating to the Horn of Africa from Arabia.

Our E-v32 is different from the ones that arabs have. We do not descend from them and they do not descend from us. There are arabs on our Yfull tree who are possibly somali in origin but they are definitely cushitic paternally.

 

[Yabal]

Your text talks about semitic re-migration to the Fertile Crescent, it doesn’t talk about at all if E-v32 migrating to the Horn of Africa from Arabia.

Our E-v32 is different from the ones that arabs have. We do not descend from them and they do not descend from us. There are arabs on our Yfull tree who are possibly somali in origin but they are definitely cushitic paternally.

There’s nothing different. Literally 100s of pure Arabs have matched with us many real Arab Quraysh tribes included. The original Arabs were Cushitic who were replaced by J1 Persians who invaded the Arabian Peninsula that’s why today 90% of Arabs are originally foreigners.

 

[RedSeaMerchant]

Samaale is just folkore and Hawiye and Dir don’t trace their ancestry to Aqeel, only Darood do. If Hawiye and Dir were Aqeelis how come we don’t have any Arab Manuscripts confirming their genealogy. Also forget about Manuscripts, majority of Hawiye don’t even share the same haplogroup most are a combination of different haplogroups.

Warya beenta jooji , Hawiye are also Predominantly E-V32, they have done dna tests! Embrace Cushinimo sxb