Are non practicing/atheists Somalis more nationalistic?

[BebsiBolice]

look at this @Bielsa is atheist I'm moderate non practicing Muslim and both of us are against interracial marriage. I personally believe in sticking with your own. It seems like religious Somalis are so clouded with the umma and are so determined to hold on to their unrealistic illogical religious beliefs they are okay with intermixing. Isn't that the cause? Let's discuss this.

 

[BebsiBolice]

My conclusion is Somalis need less Islam, less Middle East and more Somalinimo. A strong identity tied to physical appearance, ancestral lineage, cuisine, and most of all language. All these Somalia on insta writing in Arabic gives me headache

 

[Bielsa]

Ummah is a noble idea that existed and worked once upon a time but it's dead now. Ummah is more dead than Somaliweyn. People take offense to me saying this but it's the truth. Salafi bandits use this ummah card to get their way. They should be exposed for the utter frauds that they are.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Ummah is a noble idea that existed and worked once upon a time but it's dead now. Ummah is more dead than Somaliweyn. People take offense to me saying this but it's the truth. Salafi bandits use this ummah card to get their way. They should be exposed for the utter frauds that they are.

I just can't comprehend how Somalis rather uphold the ummah than Somalinimo. Surely by now they must have realized there's nothing called an ummah but that somalinationalism can and will work and will benifit them, their children and the country they ruined. Somalinimo is something you can actually rely on. It's just strange to me.

 

[Morphius]

Somali Atheists are cool with me. I used to be one back in 2014-2015

I like them more than Salafists that's for sure

 

[rico]

Somali Atheists are cool with me. I used to be one back in 2014-2015

So....what are you now?

 

[Khathead]

The biggest of these racemixers seems to be salafist. I have seen it with my own eyes. .Salafists also have low expectations. I know this Iraqi dude who was a total loser. Dude went from junkie criminal to pious, and after 6 months he found a beatiful wife who had an okay-ish job. Also they don't see race. I know this Bangladeshi who said he knew about an Iranian with a Somali girl, a Turk with a Pakistani girl etc. I asked him wouldn't there be problems since their parents and family back home can barely talk to each other and there are cultural differences, then he said culture is haraam etc only islam is important blablabla. and you shouldn't let issues like language stop you. Only Islam is important. Many atheists are bad too. They constantly shit on their own people

 

[Morphius]

So....what are you now?

Trying to be a Muslim but mostly confused about many things

 

[BebsiBolice]

The biggest of these racemixers seems to be salafist. I have seen it with my own eyes. .Salafists also have low expectations. I know this Iraqi dude who was a total loser. Dude went from junkie criminal to pious, and after 6 months he found a beatiful wife who had an okay-ish job. Also they don't see race. I know this Bangladeshi who said he knew about an Iranian with a Somali girl, a Turk with a Pakistani girl etc. I asked him wouldn't there be problems since their parents and family back home can barely talk to each other and there are cultural differences, then he said culture is haraam etc only islam is important blablabla. and you shouldn't let issues like language stop you. Only Islam is important. Many atheists are bad too. They constantly shit on their own people

How on earth is culture haram? How? What verse?

 

[rico]

Trying to be a Muslim but mostly confused about many things

That's basically where I'm at sxb. May Allah guide us onto the path of the righteous inshallah.

 

[Bielsa]

only islam is important blablabla. and you shouldn't let issues like language stop you. Only Islam is important. Many atheists are bad too. They constantly shit on their own people

The new Atheists definitely do. Whether they are Somali, Arab, Paki or anything else many of them love to shit on their own people. White approval means the world to them. I've seen so many Arab Atheists on Twitter shit on their own culture and people day in day out just so they can get RTs by Dave Rubin and his ilk, who in turn are in bed with some of the most vile obnoxious repulsive racist people.

Salafists are still my enemies and a huge threat to Sonalinimo.

 

[Abdalla]

I am Salafi and nationalist/qabilist. Your argument doesnt make sense.

 

[Khathead]

How on earth is culture haram? How? What verse?

Culture associated with the specific ethnic group. Controrary to popular belief not all Muslims are the same

 

[BebsiBolice]

Do you guys think people in Somali would be down with salafism or are they comfortable with being sufis?

 

[BebsiBolice]

Culture associated with the specific ethnic group. Controrary to popular belief not all Muslims are the same

So Somali culture. Like the deb holiday( we have a ton of holiday all dead now tho ofcs) guntinos, macawis, borambor and so fort are all haram according to salafis?

 

[Khathead]

Do you guys think people in Somali would be down with salafism or are they comfortable with being sufis?

When I was there Sufism seems to still be a thing. They have their own TV channel where they sing while reciting some verses. No one thought it was haraam or anything

 

[BebsiBolice]

So some Muslims want the so called ummah to be a monolith? We're everyone dresse the same, eats the same and clearly speak the same language ?

 

[BebsiBolice]

When I was there Sufism seems to still be a thing. They have their own TV channel where they sing while reciting some verses.

I like Sufis. My family is Sunni but Sufis are straight up cool. Like hipsters of Islam just without being polorizing.

 

[BebsiBolice]

I am Salafi and nationalist/qabilist. Your argument doesnt make sense.

U.K. Is a salafi recruit strong hold and there seem to be the most interracial marriage going on there due to Somalis being deluded with the ummah fantasys.

 

[yas/London]

U.K. Is a salafi recruit strong hold and there seem to be the most interracial marriage going on there due to Somalis being deluded with the ummah fantasys.

Wrong Barni bear, come to London I'll show you everything.