Are successful Somalis who dont mentor youth uncle toms?

I used to think this, but i kinda understand now. The Somali community is actually too chaotic and would probably waste his time. The best he can do is help sincere indivuduals which they probably do.
 

Aurelian

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Why do they cut contact with the community once they tasted successful?
I won't wonder why such people will cut contact with their community, because they probably tried to mentor, but the community, especially the young men are very very wild, and on top of that, their parents are like docile, passive and extremely arrogant (indho adeeg) about their children behaviour, and when these kids do something bad like selling drugs and get arrested, they will say, "wiilkeygi aa la iga xiray, ha iloo sii daayo", and when they get out from the prison, they let them do whatever they want and ask God to correct them.
 
I know a few, and inshallah I’ll be one too. They’ll help those who put in the effort to help themselves, no one is going to do the heavy lifting for you, or walk you into a job.
I know too many niggas in high positions that tried helping out others by hooking them up with a lower position where they can work their way up. What do the bum niggas do as a thank you, f*ck shit up at work, not be half decent worker, make his problem his brothers problems, or in best case scenario they’ll take 1-2 paychecks and quit only to ask for another hook up :mjlol:
 
Haven't seen many successful ones cut contact, but they usually avoid problematic people and move lowkey.

There aren't really any firm class divides among Somalis in the same way you see in other societies from what i noticed, both rich and poor share the same space. I think the only ones similar to us are Jews or Asians in this sense, that we are deeply connected to eachother and keep close ties of kinship even in distant lands far away.

This is of course different if the Somali in question is gaalonized.
 

AbdiFreedom

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Mentoring Somali students is a huge waste of time. Hooking them up with internships or entry role positions will also make you look really bad when they bring their dysfunctional ways learned from home and in the community into the workplace.
 
i imagine its hard enough being a successful somali in the west with how tough it is (we are latter migrants compared to other groups) that its hard to make time to help others who arent direct family. there's also taking care of hooyo, there's taking care sending money back home to first cousins, hooyo's family and then your own family., its not easy
 

Sa_Male

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i imagine its hard enough being a successful somali in the west with how tough it is (we are latter migrants compared to other groups) that its hard to make time to help others who arent direct family. there's also taking care of hooyo, there's taking care sending money back home to first cousins, hooyo's family and then your own family., its not easy
It's very simple to give back to your community, most successful people are very patient, if you were patient enough to make all you money your patient enough to give back enough to make a difference, especially in such a small community such as our own.

They're greedy haasid people who learned to priorise self gain but never bothered realising that they have duties to their own.
 

Sophisticate

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Let me be frank.

Somali people are not a monolith! How many times must this point be emphasized for it to stick? I also help those I choose—those who take the initiative and are diligent. It isn't rocket science.
 

Sa_Male

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Let me be frank.

Somali people are not a monolith! I also help the Somalis that I choose—those who take the initiative and are diligent. It isn't rocket science.
There's a difference between help and useful mentorship that covers many areas, we as a community desperately fail in the latter.
 

Sophisticate

~Gallantly Gadabuursi~
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There's a difference between help and useful mentorship that covers many areas, we as a community desperately fail in the latter.
Mentorship can be done in a (1) informal or (2) formal capacity. I'd classify some of the assistance I have given as the former. It's not one-off advice but more ongoing.
 

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