Are you a Somali before you are a Muslim or are you Muslim before you are a Somali?
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You're not one ethnic group lmfao. You don't even share the same culture either. Djiboutians are the most Westernised, while Somalilanders are more Westernised than Southies. You don't even have the same type of dance moves: some are known for dhaanto, while Southies are known for sharax, others for niiko, etc. Nor do you wear the same clothes; you would find women without hijaab up North while you would not find the same in South Somalia.
I'm just surprised as to why a Darod, Arab, Hashemite man like yourself would deny his own heritage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdirahman_bin_Isma'il_al-Jabarti
I'm not going to argue with you all day. Say wallahi you have the same forefathers as Hawiye and Dir?
Different races kulaha
Somalis are different races kulaha.That's why you have to ask someone they're qabil instead of just knowing when you see them. I don't have to ask if an indhoyar is Asian, I can tell just by looking at him.
You all sound like AAs who claim everyone and everything under the sun in America that does not look 100% European. I'd even say there is more phenotypical variation among "Somalis" than there are in many countries in South America. You have so-called ethnic Somalis as light as Arabs, as dark as Africans, and of varying heights and hair types. Yet people want to claim that these people are more homogeneous than AAs? That's some straight comedy right there.
What happened to that supposedly superior progressive and liberal ideology of yours?
A Dashishe talking about langaab? Just as I have only ever met Darods talking about "we wuz spear chuckers!" online, I have never seen a ashishe in the real world and I have seen many, many things in my time sxb.
Mudug-Madman
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What you're describing is literally variations of the same culture. The culture in northern Germany has many differences compared to a region like bavaria. Differences in dress, food, dialect, ect. Are you gonna tell me now that Germans aren't the same ethnic group either? That's retarded.
I told you a million times that lineage is a myth. There's no historic or genetic evidence to back it up.
If you go back far enough, yes. Somalis existed before the forefathers of the prominent clans.
You all sound like AAs who claim everyone and everything under the sun in America that does not look 100% European. I'd even say there is more phenotypical variation among "Somalis" than there are in many countries in South America. You have so-called ethnic Somalis as light as Arabs, as dark as Africans, and of varying heights and hair types. Yet people want to claim that these people are more homogeneous than AAs? That's some straight comedy right there.
That diversity also is exhibited within families as well. I'm medium complexion and softer hair. My brother is lighter than me, but has timo Madow. Are we from different races now?
The same non humans civilizing you and keeping your fragile paper government together from collapsing back into the anarchy and chaos your people are used to? :siilaanyolaugh:
Kanye
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Arabs have done a number on some of you guys. How hard is it to understand that someone who shares a significant portion of your life views relates more to you than someone who doesn't? Unless you're a racist or a nationalist and we all no Somali nationalism is non-existent of course. I relate more to an Ethiopian Muslim than I do to an Arab Muslim, happy? It's always about the Arabs, never the African or South/South-East Asian Muslims. You guys with your inferiority complexes towards Arabs have turned this into an anti-Arab bandwagon. Wallahi, you man need to stop letting your hate for Arabs cloud your vision and dictate your actions. I bet you guys also stand with Israel on the Israel-Gaza conflict because f*ck Arabs am I right?.
You guys love pointing out how the one Ummah is not reciprocated, and then imply Somalinimo is? looool. Get the f*ck out of here. If Somalinimo was any more real than the Ummah, Somalia wouldn't look the way it does. Every patch of desert has its own king and hates the other side more than anything. Even though I disagree, claiming qabil over religion makes more sense than claiming Somali over your religion. At least your qabil is reciprocated and acknowledged.
You guys love pointing out how the one Ummah is not reciprocated, and then imply Somalinimo is? looool. Get the f*ck out of here. If Somalinimo was any more real than the Ummah, Somalia wouldn't look the way it does. Every patch of desert has its own king and hates the other side more than anything. Even though I disagree, claiming qabil over religion makes more sense than claiming Somali over your religion. At least your qabil is reciprocated and acknowledged.
Mudug-Madman
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Forget somalia and go back to tanzania you zanj
That diversity also is exhibited within families as well. I'm medium complexion and softer hair. My brother is lighter than me, but has timo Madow. Are we from different races now?
I think this is extremely rare and not even worth discussing. Let's be honest. if you were out and about in public what would the ajnaabis assume about both of you?
Let's just keep it honest sxb. You and the few other MJs on here who insist you are from Kunta Kinte are practically non-existent in the real world. Try going to DH and telling the people Darod was a fairytale, that they have no relation to carabs, etc. and why don't we see their reaction?
LOOK AT THIS SHEEGATO!What you're describing is literally variations of the same culture. The culture in northern Germany has many differences compared to a region like bavaria. Differences in dress, food, dialect, ect. Are you gonna tell me now that Germans aren't the same ethnic group either? That's retarded.
I told you a million times that lineage is a myth. There's no historic or genetic evidence to back it up.
If you go back far enough, yes. Somalis existed before the forefathers of the prominent clans.
That diversity also is exhibited within families as well. I'm medium complexion and softer hair. My brother is lighter than me, but has timo Madow. Are we from different races now?
You have the same forefathers as Dir (~82% haplogroup T), Warsangeli (~50% haplogroup J), so on and so forth? 14 different haplogroups have been observed in Somalis.
You can pretend that all is rosy but there are significant ethnic and cultural variations among the Somalis.
Two irrefutable premises:
1. In the Somali culture, race and lineage are inherited paternally.
2. Somalis vary in the origins of their lineages (further supported by DNA testing).
Thus, from those premises, I can draw the conclusion that Somalis are not one ethnicity.
Westernisation, niiko, etc. are variations of the Somali culture? Typical hotep ass nigga. Hijacking the cultures of unsuspecting humans that belong to different races.
I know this whole thread was pure cringe wallahi
Mudug-Madman
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The Somali phenotype is very diverse, we're not like you Bantus who all look the same.I think this is extremely rare and not even worth discussing. Let's be honest. if you were out and about in public what would the ajnaabis assume about both of you?
Let's just keep it honest sxb. You and the few other MJs on here who insist you are from Kunta Kinte are practically non-existent in the real world. Try going to DH and telling the people Darod was a fairytale, that they have no relation to carabs, etc. and why don't we see their reaction?
And my ancestor isn't Kunta Kinte, that would be you. My ancestors are the proud Cushitic nomads who roamed Somalia for millenia. Your people were brought to Somalia on boats a mere two centuries ago, and you could leave the same way if not for the good grace of our people. Remember that. 
If Warsangeli have the same forefather, why do only 50% of them have the same haplogroup? Answer that.
Somalis are the same ethnicity, it's YOU who's different.
Big talk from a guy whose people don't even control any lands. You're living under the thumb of MJs like @TheLibertarianQuiche who accept Somalia as a multicultural country of immigrants and fight your nationalist fantasies from becoming reality.
Its good to see your true and barbaric agenda coming to light. That whole progress and championing minority rights was nothing more than a front.
The Somali phenotype is very diverse, we're not like you Bantus who all look the same.
You cannot be phenotypically diverse while being genotypically homogeneous. That is some good fiction. But, why don't you tell your MJ brothers and sisters at DH and free them from the shackles of "Arabophilia" as many of you on here claim? Don't you want to bring this great knowledge to our own closest kinsmen? We both know why you won't ever even think about doing that.
Some of them must have been granted sheegadd status which is not unusual.The Somali phenotype is very diverse, we're not like you Bantus who all look the same.
If Warsangeli have the same forefather, why do only 50% of them have the same haplogroup? Answer that.
Somalis are the same ethnicity, it's YOU who's different.
Seriously, if you didn't know that EVERY tribe have sheegatos then this pretty much puts a huge question mark on your Somalinimo (you are Arab after all).
You've also just admitted that Somalis are of various paternal stock. Lmfao.... This guy. Nothing that you said disproves either of the two premises that I've proposed, thus my point still stands.
P.S. Lol @ him also admitting that the Somali phenotype is much more diverse than that of other races.
Mudug-Madman
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No he's living alongside MJs like me who are staunch nationalists. If he's living under our thumb, then so are your brothers and sisters who have a large community in Garowe.Big talk from a guy whose people don't even control any lands. You're living under the thumb of MJs like @TheLibertarianQuiche who accept Somalia as a multicultural country of immigrants and fight your nationalist fantasies from becoming reality.
Its good to see your true and barbaric agenda coming to light. That whole progress and championing minority rights was nothing more than a front.
Actually, yes you can. Another example is cadaan families who have members with different hair colours but all have the same mother and father. Again, you imposing your Bantu situation on others.You cannot be phenotypically diverse while being genotypically homogeneous. That is some good fiction. But, why don't you tell your MJ brothers and sisters at DH and free them from the shackles of "Arabophilia" as many of you on here claim? Don't you want to bring this great knowledge to our own closest kinsmen? We both know why you won't ever even think about doing that.
As the evidence mounts and people become more educated, many Somalis will realize the lineages they believed in the past are false. I'm doing my small part in educating our people, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
So HALF of them were granted sheegato status? Because on 50% have the same haplogroup. If it was only 5% or something like that, you'd have a point. Explain that. Some of them kulaha. 50% is not 'some'.Some of them must have been granted sheegadd status which is not unusual.
Seriously, if you didn't know that EVERY tribe have sheegatos then this pretty much puts a huge question mark on your Somalinimo (you are Arab after all).
You've also just admitted that Somalis are of various paternal stock. Lmfao.... This guy.
P.S. Lol @ him also admitting that the Somali phenotype is much more diverse than that of other races.
50% was just an estimation. It could be much higher than that. All the Warsengalis I've seen so far were J though. You should be thankful that I'm bending the estimated outcome slightly in your favor.No he's living alongside MJs like me who are staunch nationalists. If he's living under our thumb, then so are your brothers and sisters who have a large community in Garowe.
Actually, yes you can. Another example is cadaan families who have members with different hair colours but all have the same mother and father. Again, you imposing your Bantu situation on others.
As the evidence mounts and people become more educated, many Somalis will realize the lineages they believed in the past are false. I'm doing my small part in educating our people, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
So HALF of them were granted sheegato status? Because on 50% have the same haplogroup. If it was only 5% or something like that, you'd have a point. Explain that? Some of them kulaha. 50% is not 'some'.
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