Bosaso Vs Hargeisa Population. Dr Estimates

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More estimates and no methodologies provided for estimations, tell me was it some khat chewer that spoke to the cia and provided khat intelligence while he was high on somali clan numbers? what a joke the CIA is for even believing that nonsense but Somali elders know the truth and the somali government does also. You have no livestock sxb, you dont have any geel in somaliland besides garhajis and that is small also in comparison to other somalis.

Isaaq livestock has three times the size of Harti livestock. Anyways sxb, just because Harti has more land doesn't mean they are bigger. Isaaq territory is more fertile and sustainable compared to Harti territory. Like do you know how desnse Isaaq territories are? Is like comparing France to Greenland, like be serious.

Also, here are the 1960 estimations conducted by the Europeans when they were counting the Somali clans population and guess what? Isaaq still had more population than Darood within Somalia republic.
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where did I compare harti with isaaq?

Not you bro, I nearly had a heart-attack that @whitehartlane must be a kid probably, doesn't know the real facts in Somalia and how population is worked out. He don't know how important nomadic camel herders are to Somali numbers and their judged by daaqsin and pasture land and land size because water wells, water catchment, sand dams, and all that shit needs land and the smaller the land the smaller the wells, water catchment, sand dams. Notice Somaliland has one DAM, that's it niyahow they dont need anymore for their small nomadic population. Notice how many puntland has? 12 Lasat time I count?

That's how much bigger we are? 12 times the isaaq size in nomadic count and that kid is saying harti and isaaq loooooooooool.
 

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Lol

Hargeysa was 2nd largest since 1960s
Bosaso was a fishing village mere 20 years ago.. in 2018 it's 75% of Hargeysa in terms of population.. keep telling yourself fairy tales that Hargeysa is fastest growing city in somalia.. tht title belongs to bosaso and we all Somali or non Somali know that..

And yes buurtinle is bigger than all those towns you listed..

Isaaq is larger than darood..
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Yeah and in the civil war, Hargeisa was not inhabited and was completely destroyed to the ground and now it's a metropolis city. Buurtinle has around 30 thousand and the towns I listed has way more population including Gabiley that passed 100k. Also, I never said Isaaq is bigger than Darood. I said within Somalia republic, Isaaq is bigger than Darood. I was trying to debunk your bullshit when you said Harti is bigger than Isaaq. Don't twist my words warya.
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Isaaq livestock has three times the size of Harti livestock. Anyways sxb, just because Harti has more land doesn't mean they are bigger. Isaaq territory is more fertile and sustainable compared to Harti territory. Is like comparing France to Greenland, like be serious.

Also, here are the 1960 estimations conducted by the Europeans when they were counting the Somali clans population and guess what? Isaaq still had more population than Darood within Somalia republic.
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If your lands are more fertile and are better grazing lands, why is it that your nomads are coming to bari nugaal iyo mudug to graze during the dry seasons....explain tht
 

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If your lands are more fertile and are better grazing lands, why is it that your nomads are coming to bari nugaal iyo mudug to graze during the dry seasons....explain tht

It's way less compared to Harti grazing in Isaaq territories. Let's not forget we have HA clans that are traditionally farmers.

Here is the map showing you how much resourceful Isaaq territory is compared to Harti.

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Yeah and in the civil war, Hargeisa was not inhabited and was completely destroyed to the ground and now it's a metropolis city. Buurtinle has around 30 thousand and the towns I listed has way more population including Gabiley that passed 100k. Also, I never said Isaaq is bigger than Darood. I said within Somalia republic, Isaaq is bigger than Darood. I was trying to debunk your bullshit when you said Harti is bigger than Isaaq. Don't twist my words warya.
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Isaaq is not bigger than darood within the northern part of somalia. ..just the darood in puntland is bigger than isaaq..

20% darood
22% isaaq

Come on bruhhh you don't believe what a 23 year old apprentice undergraduate UN field officer wrote down in his note book..

Yes buurtinle is bigger than all the town's u listed..including dare I say it
BERBERAAAAA
 

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Isaaq is not bigger than darood within the northern part of somalia. ..just the darood in puntland is bigger than isaaq..

20% darood
22% isaaq

Come on bruhhh you don't believe what a 23 year old apprentice undergraduate UN field officer wrote down in his note book..

Yes buurtinle is bigger than all the town's u listed..including dare I say it
BERBERAAAAA

You're not being smart. Isaaq territories is way more dense than Darood territories in Somalia so it makes sense. I showed a 1960 estimate, are you going to deny that too? Forget the CIA reports in Somalia.

Buurtinle is your tuulo and I can mention 20 towns, not major Isaaq cities which are bigger than your tuulo and I can say wallahi on that. The towns I listed are more than 30 thousand which Buurtinle has.
 
It's way less compared to Harti grazing in Isaaq territories. Let's not forget we have HA clans that are traditionally farmers.

Here is the map showing you how much resourceful Isaaq territory is compared to Harti.

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Have you ever heard majeerteen camels grazing outside burco....

Because every other year your nomads come to eyl with whatever is left of their livestock...

If your lands are so much more fertile than Puntland..shouldn't puntland nomads be starving in your lands seeking refugee from hunger
 

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Factz is coming with statistics and constantly shutting you down. Doctor stop embarrassing yourself..

You have one dam in hargeisa, we have 15 dams in Puntland do you know that? That is 15 times your water source because you don't need 15 dams for 5 families in hargeisa rural areas, we do because there is millions out there for us in rural areas. I dare you to create 15 dams in Somaliland you won't because you know it will be a waste of money because you have small rural population, you only create water sources if there is livestock and if there is livestock there is people. You simply have to admit your outnumbered in MIYI areas. You don't have any towns besides hargeisa-burco. Berbera-Sheikh-Oodwayn are not towns sxb but tuulos at best and puntland carmo is bigger then your sheikh, oodwayn will get annihilated by just by eyl, sheikh wiped out by bayla, gabiley wiped out by qandala, and that's it and we havent even finished for Puntland. We still got qardho-bacadwayn-burtinle-galkayo-garowe-bosaso. Then we have 15 times the size in rural areas just based working out how many dams each state has. You gotta compare all waqoyi and then jabuti and then get all dir koonfureed and those in ethiopia to match majerten.
 

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Have you ever heard majeerteen camels grazing outside burco....

Because every other year your nomads come to eyl with whatever is left of their livestock...

If your lands are so much more fertile than Puntland..shouldn't puntland nomads be starving in your lands seeking refugee from hunger

Yes, Majerteen nomads grazes even as far as Sheikh in certain periods but after Tukaraq dispute, it's gone less. Isaaq are more dense and fertile compared to Harti territory, you can't be this stupid to disagree?

I've already given you the facts. Now move on warya.
 
It's way less compared to Harti grazing in Isaaq territories. Let's not forget we have HA clans that are traditionally farmers.

Here is the map showing you how much resourceful Isaaq territory is compared to Harti.

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how correct is that map when most salt exist in Hafun and hurdiyo but its nowhere to been seen on that map? also uranimum? and all the minerals in bari?
 

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Yes, Majerteen nomads grazes even as far as Sheikh in certain periods but after Tukaraq dispute, it's gone less. Isaaq are more dense and fertile compared to Harti territory, you can't be this stupid to disagree?

I've already given you the facts. Now move on warya.

Time to surrender niyahow. 1 Dam exists in all somaliland, if you have such big grazing population, surely one dam isn't enough niyahow, one dam is enough if their small livestock and if the livestock is small the families are small too. Puntland has 15 dams and were just getting started and 55 water wells just completed under abdiweli gaas, that demonstrates how much are rural population is. When do you see somaliland building water wells or dams? you don't have rural population admit it, you simply settled in those towns and we still outnumber in your settlements when we count all homes in our regions but we still have 15 times the size in rural areas. You need to get back up and combine with dir waqoyi and koonfur and harti waqoyi to stand a chance in numbers against majerten.

Majerten wa buurtasi karkaar oo balaartay weeye, adiguna waxa tahay naaso hablood buurtisa yar in comparison.
 

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Time to surrender niyahow. 1 Dam exists in all somaliland, if you have such big grazing population, surely one dam isn't enough niyahow, one dam is enough if their small livestock and if the livestock is small the families are small too. Puntland has 15 dams and were just getting started and 55 water wells just completed under abdiweli gaas, that demonstrates how much are rural population is. When do you see somaliland building water wells or dams? you don't have rural population admit it, you simply settled in those towns and we still outnumber in your settlements when we count all homes in our regions but we still have 15 times the size in rural areas. You need to get back up and combine with dir waqoyi and koonfur and harti waqoyi to stand a chance in numbers against majerten.

Majerten wa buurtasi karkaar oo balaartay weeye, adiguna waxa tahay naaso hablood buurtisa yar in comparison.

Dams don't mean shit. Somaliland will soon develop dams but right now they're focusing on other projects which are more important.

I don't know how to convince you but here is a map showing you how extremely dense Isaaq territories are compared to Harti territory. You can't be this intellectually dishonest.

Isaaq is indeed much larger than Harti whether you like it or not.

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Dams don't mean shit. Somaliland will soon develop dams but right now they're focusing on other projects which are more important.

I don't know how to convince you but here is a map showing you how extremely dense Isaaq territories are compared to Harti territory. You can't be this intellectually dishonest.

Isaaq is indeed much larger than Harti whether you like it or not.

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This is the population density done by NASA.
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This is the population density done by NASA.
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So Bossaso district is more desnse than Hargeisa district? Yup I'm done proving anything here.

You guys have too much pride for your clan so you won't admit anything. Well be my guest.
 
So Bossaso district is more desnse than Hargeisa district? Yup I'm done proving anything here.

You guys have too much pride for your clan so you won't admit anything. Well be my guest.
Hargeisa is bigger than bosaso no question about it but you're making it seem like harti land is barely habited.
 

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Hargeisa is bigger than bosaso no question about it but you're making it seem like harti land is barely habited.

Never claimed that. All I'm saying is Isaaq territories is much fertile and more densely populated than Harti territories and that is a fact. I've met honest Daroods who admit Isaaq is bigger than Harti & Marehan combined. I don't care what internet trolls say online.
 

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Hargeisa is bigger than bosaso no question about it but you're making it seem like harti land is barely habited.

Of course harti lands are empty, their just 55 wells abdiweli gaas implemented, 15 dams, just so he can just waste the water and let it just spill, after-all their is no people out here, no livestock that need the water, we just building all these water infrastructure for no people according to @Factz

That nigga Facts is trolling, just laugh when you hear trolls, he knows the truth but wanna just somalispot bashaal. By the way Hargeisa isn't that much larger then Bosaso. It's only 20k difference. Bosaso is around 60k and hargeisa 80k and Bosaso is catching up niyahow because it is the fastest growing city in Somalia plus we actually have a rural nomadic population to feed our cities numbers, what the hell does isaaq have when we know their is no rural population and if there was we would see much more water infrastructure then a single dam. When your economy is livestock based, how isn't a priority to do water wells yet he said water wells isn't important to his region because other things hold more priority yet livestock is his no 1 priority GDP wise, it's what is being exported from his port and what he collects taxation on.

But this asshole responds, water infrastructure don't matter, water matters to livestock u wack job or they die of thirst. He doesn't want to admit he has no rural nomads left anymore and depends on ogaden nomads shipping their camels through berbera not Isaaq and I think ogaden will stop going through Berbera with Turdibi corridor opening up business access between Puntland and DDSI. Imagine the pain inflicted on SL if that happens.
 
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