Bosaso Vs Hargeisa Population. Dr Estimates
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The lines you put on hargeisa vertically and horizontally isn't really fair. Just take where it's widest in hargeisa and longest and measure that. We could even take a measurement of where it's lowest and then divide it to get an average measurement. I didn't even go that far, I just took the widest horizontal angle and longest angle. You were pretty generous niyahow with your measurements by ALOT KKKKK
As for Bosaso I measured it's longest width and longest verticle also no different to Hargeisa. It's 16 kilometers if you include the side settlement to the main settlement while hargeisa is 42 kilometers. Then it's about does Bosaso use it's space fully and does hargeisa not use it's space as good(density).
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Golan Heights belong to Syria
Hargeisa is 3x the size of Bosaso if you look on Google Earth.
Hargeisa is larger then Bosaso yes about 3 times, but bosaso is 3 times larger on how well it uses up it's space compared to Hargeisa. For example within 1 kilometer bosaso has twice as many homes then hargeisa has per kilometer. Don't you understand density? if you don't use up your space as well, you become less in the total count mathamatically.
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Golan Heights belong to Syria
Hargeisa is more densely populated. It's not close. I have been to both cities and you can even see it's more densely populated on Google Earth.
Hargeisa didn't grow in real terms mathamatically in anyways comparable to Bosaso. Go back on hargeisa time-line to 2003, it was already the second largest city in Somalia regardless of what siyad did to it and what you claim. Bosaso went from nothing to the size it is now and it will grow far more rapidly as more nomads leave behind the nomadic lifestyle for settlement, which I wish they don't. You don't have nomadic population, why is it you got one dam in hargeisa? one dam the water can be measured how many livestock it can provide for by the liter it produces and how much water a lifestock needs? why is you have not many water wells? I haven't ever seen Somaliland ever building a water well for a Isaaq clans person, it's because you all settled and there is no reer miyi anymore for you. So what we are looking at essentially in your cities is both your settled and non settled people all fully combined. Where-as in Puntland your only seeing 20% of our population settled and 80% are not. The proof in the pudding is why do we have 15 sand dams, why did abdiweli gaas complete 55 water wells? that is within 4 year time period, plus we don't mention what the people did for themselves in terms of water wells and water catchments(barkadyo). Our water source and it's quantity indicates a very large livestock population and where-ever livestock exists their is also nomads because livestock are controlled by nomads.
You can assess evidence many ways to find out the truth. But MJ is massive plus there is many gabayo and mahmah to back that up also like sheikh ali majerten and others who said where-ever there is black heads there is majertens. It's true when-evere I go to anywhere somalis, you will always see majerten there, it's like a damn disease sticks around and doesn't go away. He is everywhere sxb in diaspora and also among Somalis.
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Golan Heights belong to Syria
It's not good to argue or debate for no reason over factual information
What many people don't know is that Dr. Osman was the first to use Google Earth in his fkd. This strategy revolutionised the cyber FKD game just like the use of teknikos changed the tribal warfare
The good doc was a mujahid.
The good doc was a mujahid.
Google earth is just one data set to look at it, satellite imagery. I use other data sets like livestock counts, analyzing water wells and checking how many livestock depend on it and then depending on how many livestock I work out for a water well dividing that up into how many families are centered around it. It's like a chain effect. Where there is water, there is livestock and where there is livestock there is nomads. The question really is how much and working accurate formulas based on knowledge and mathamatics.
I do realize in order to have water wells and livestock, the first pre-requisite is you need PASTURE or daaqsin and depending on how large your pasture is, the more water wells you can fit into it and if you can fit in more water wells you also grow your livestock population and thus increase your nomadic count at the same time.
The rule is this. Land defines how many water sources can exist where as Water defines Livestock number and Livestock number defines nomad numbers and then it's just applying mathamatical formulas and equations and accounting for factors and then doing comparisons.
You fight hard too @Abdalla I am trying to eliminate one garab or faction of the IRIR savages Isaaq. I will take my focus after I have slaughtered him to the Hawiye and kill the beast by the head and make Majerten the supreme one. No wonder they hate us bro, we slam them with knowledge, wisdom, and facts and they hate it and respond with cheerleading clan buranbur looooooooooool.
Fam Marehan is a sub clan that has a lot of branches and inner sub clans.
I have an opinion that if you compare your sub clan Habar Awal to my sub clan Reer Diini that consists even more sub clans it wouldn't even be a contest.
Reer Diini has a lot of sub clans together they're called Radamir Amaanreer.
I'm just educating you right here.
Basics 101.
@nine knows this.
Marehan are not in poverty they are wealthy mashallah.
Go worry about Tukaraq now they seem helpless.
Marehan have a larger population than Majerten.
We're much wealthier.
True marehan is definitely a top contender for forth spot in Somalia after ogaden-abgal-mj take out the top 3. The battle is between mj and abgal more so who is no 2, ogaden has secured no 1 without a dispute. But it will tight battle for no 4 between habar gedir, marehan and Isaaq but I would relegate Isaaq out of it niyahow and put my bets on marehan and habar gedir(ma yara nimankani sxb). I thought previously it would be tight race between isaaq-dhulos-marehan-hg for fourth spot but in all reality it will come down to habar gedir and marehan who takes no 4 clan of somalis.
Isaaq and dhulbahante will fight it out for No 5.
Cousin or no cousin you will get shot for an outrageous claim like that...
Since you guys are securing forth spot between hg and marehan you can be asked without any biases who you think will take out no 5 between Isaaq and Dhulbahante? see that's how somalis work niyahow the clan elders told me. If a clan has secured a spot like ogaden, he is now considered neutral and hence sayidka is considered the go to guy for all somali clan on disputes. Since I secured either no 2 or no 3 and i'll let ogaden decide who should take that spot between abgaal and majerten, I can also be neutral about who should be no 4 either marehan or habar gedir and you do the same for dhulbahante and isaaq fighting for no 5 and they do the same for hawadle and warsangeli who fight for their spot below, and the hawadle and warsangeli then judge for the guys below them murusade and leelkase and the cycle continues.
It's beautiful cadalad niyahow isn't it?
Cousin or no cousin you will get shot for an outrageous claim like that...
Nah the Sheikh won't.
This claim is the truth.
As an Osman maxamud we will hold big shir beeleed if Somalis come together and speak about power-sharing using the Dr method. Who-ever secures No 1 spot is the referee who reviews the claims for no 2 spot by abgal and mj. Who-ever secures no 2 and 3 then decide for no 4 between hg and marehan notice(one hawiye abgal will judge, while another darod will judge), the cycle continues. Marehan and HG then judge for dhulbahante and isaaq on population(notice one is irir hg and isaaq are tight bro, and the other is marehan close to dhulbahante and brothers), then just recycle the process niyahow when dhulbahante and isaaq are decided on who is no 5. They both then judge for Hawadle and Warsangeli(notice isaaq do like hawadle niyahow and treat them well, and warsangeli is tight with dhulbahante as brothers), then warsangeli and hawadle decide for murusade and leelkase who is larger(same deal warsangeli is leelkase brother and hawadle is murusade brother), then they decide on the claims of who is below them between dashishe and sheikhaal. Notice leelkase is brother of dashishe while murusade is close to sheikhaal thru friendly ties. The cycle continues to the bottom.
Then we all come together as reer guuraga who are the majority in Somalia and we decide what is fair for rahanwayn with an equal voice as nomads, it will be a show down between may and maxaa tiri then, we may need a judge that is neutral between us so we can get reer hamar people to do judging or the tumaal and so forth. So all of you clan lovers, go get your facts ready with google satellite imagery, apply same mathamatical formula that each clan uses, then go get your water wells counted and livestock populations and work out your nomad population. Bring your gabay and mahmah as wisdom and knowledge back-up and then we apply the reconcilation structure that way for us.
I don't think their will be one Somali who will complain about that structure and we then share power accordingly to ratios based on population. At the end of the day beel walbo iyo qof walbo waxaa deeqo cadalad not getting freebies or things they don't deserve. Once a man gets justice, he is satisfied, it's not too much or extreme and it's not to less, it's just a perfect sweet spot and it's called happiness. It's not extreme qosol and going crazy high and it's not depression and sadness, it's basically satisfication. We just need satisfication level in Somalia clan and the first process is power sharing, resource sharing, quotas around parliamentarians not on 4.5 but through a DR model.
Then we all come together as reer guuraga who are the majority in Somalia and we decide what is fair for rahanwayn with an equal voice as nomads, it will be a show down between may and maxaa tiri then, we may need a judge that is neutral between us so we can get reer hamar people to do judging or the tumaal and so forth. So all of you clan lovers, go get your facts ready with google satellite imagery, apply same mathamatical formula that each clan uses, then go get your water wells counted and livestock populations and work out your nomad population. Bring your gabay and mahmah as wisdom and knowledge back-up and then we apply the reconcilation structure that way for us.
I don't think their will be one Somali who will complain about that structure and we then share power accordingly to ratios based on population. At the end of the day beel walbo iyo qof walbo waxaa deeqo cadalad not getting freebies or things they don't deserve. Once a man gets justice, he is satisfied, it's not too much or extreme and it's not to less, it's just a perfect sweet spot and it's called happiness. It's not extreme qosol and going crazy high and it's not depression and sadness, it's basically satisfication. We just need satisfication level in Somalia clan and the first process is power sharing, resource sharing, quotas around parliamentarians not on 4.5 but through a DR model.
I swear if you guys apply that model that i suggested, somali beri bay heeshinaysa, go try it and ask your people if your willing to accept it for a long lasting peace among Somalia. If you aint, then let the shit continue and may the best man win but I don't think anyone will win because it's going on for 30 years with no clear winner yet on the field. Let's cut our losses and do a fair and transparent powersharing based on evidences, facts, methodologies like mathamatics, then review our poetry and proverbs(that's literature even whites review shakespear and shit), then begin the somali reconciliation conference in Qardho Somalia where my clan will host the final peace conference among Somali clans.
What you say guys? Don't take away from us what is truly Osman maxamud, we are not saying we the largest clan and all that but that traditional royalty shit, nigga we counting 36 kings in succession lines, no other clan counts that many kings because they don't have that sort of history, all their kings are like 2 generations at top looooooooooool
What you say guys? Don't take away from us what is truly Osman maxamud, we are not saying we the largest clan and all that but that traditional royalty shit, nigga we counting 36 kings in succession lines, no other clan counts that many kings because they don't have that sort of history, all their kings are like 2 generations at top looooooooooool
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