Fundamentally if your needs are met ie you have food on the table and your kids can go to a decent school then what more can you want? It seems socialists have more of a disdain for the rich than their sympathy with the worker. The idea of capitalism is to provide the ability for social mobility by either 1 increasing your labour value through education/hardwork and 2 investing and acquiring some means of production to be in business yourself. Equality of opportunity not outcome is what I want.
Yeah absolutely. I'm talking specifically about real property, land ownership and anything built on it.
Lool collective you say? You are funny
what about inheritance of wealth? That clearly puts you in an advantage to your peers. With capitalism there’s no avoidance in inequality sxb.
Capitalism provides social mobility for the very few on the backs of the many. The problem is that you think everyone is born equally or had the same opportunities. People are very different, their experiences and the way they were raised are not the same. Everyone is not born equally, some are born rich some are born poor. Capitalism wants us to celebrate the idea of getting rich, people are willing to defend a system that has not personally benefited them cause they think there's a chance they themselves will become rich. It is absurd.
People been brainwashed lol.
And the state is going to provide a good wellbeing for me?? How will it organize and efficiently manage the means of production to ensure prosperity? Taxing the rich will only work for so long. I don't care if rich people exist I care if the baseline standard that the state can give me ie education/healthcare is enough for me to earn more than my father did and so on and so forth.
It is lol. Everyone is dealt a deck and it’s up to them how they wanna play their hand. I personally believe the best system would be to find a centralized position between the 2. I like capitalism because it promotes competitiveness and I like socialism because it narrows the difference between the wealthy and poor regardless of their human capital.
Yes!, we need a strong social safety net so the same group of people and their kids dont end in a proverty circle like we see in the US
Yea my dad only loaned me a million dollars
The rich have a less effective tax rate than the poor. You are living under the illusion that a healthy society needs rich people. For instance in America the rich get tax breaks which are paid out of social programs for the poor. It's a complete scam. The ideal way is to allow workers to vote for the management of their companies, that way you would know they have the interest of their workers in mind. Capitalism has allowed the subjugation of the working class, it must stop mr @The Good.
