Capitalism vs Socialism

[Guure]

Yea my dad only loaned me a million dollars

Yh dude just inheritance wealth like me bro

 

[Helios]

The rich have a less effective tax rate than the poor. You are living under the illusion that a healthy society needs rich people. For instance in America the rich get tax breaks which are paid out of social programs for the poor. It's a complete scam. The ideal way is to allow workers to vote for the management of their companies, that way you would know they have the interest of their workers in mind. Capitalism has allowed the subjugation of the working class, it must stop mr @The Good.

Do they know how to manage the companies? People seem to think that working at McDonalds means you can run McDonalds. I don't understand why people want to bite the hands that feed them. Immigrants come in and succeed yet socialists whine and blame the system

 

[Helios]

Yea my dad only loaned me a million dollars

What % of the population are millionaires come on now. Most people aren't cashing fat inheritance checks

 

[416]

Do they know how to manage the companies? People seem to think that working at McDonalds means you can run McDonalds. I don't understand why people want to bite the hands that feed them. Immigrants come in and succeed yet socialists whine and blame the system

Off topic but what should happen to the people who possess the human capital to do certain jobs but have international degrees and solid experience?

 

[Helios]

Off topic but what should happen to the people who possess the human capital to do certain jobs but have international degrees and solid experience?

Waste of intellectual potential, they should be better integrated imo, a waste by the western countries by condemning them to taxi driver status as they study for another degree

 

[Guure]

Do they know how to manage the companies? People seem to think that working at McDonalds means you can run McDonalds. I don't understand why people want to bite the hands that feed them. Immigrants come in and succeed yet socialists whine and blame the system

There should be a organised picked manager by the workers, and workplace democracy.
And its not about biting the hand that feeds you, we just dont believe someone like jeff bezos should earn more in 10minutes than half his workers anually

 

[Helios]

There should be a organised picked manager by the workers, and workplace democracy.
And its not about biting the hand that feeds you, we just dont believe someone like jeff bezos should earn more in 10minutes than half his workers anually

Bezos can make that money but if his workers are given the opportunity to make a good living then it shouldn't matter what they earn. I'm no fan of government and business being in bed and that corruption. Amazon should be taken out by antitrust laws tbh monopoly

 

[Guure]

Bezos can make that money but if his workers are given the opportunity to make a good living then it shouldn't matter what they earn. I'm no fan of government and business being in bed and that corruption. Amazon should be taken out by antitrust laws tbh monopoly

If we are talking about the majority of his workers which are Amazon warehouse workers, they are not payed decent wages and work in terrible conditions to the point where some of his workers has actually died.

 

[repo]

Do they know how to manage the companies? People seem to think that working at McDonalds means you can run McDonalds. I don't understand why people want to bite the hands that feed them. Immigrants come in and succeed yet socialists whine and blame the system

You'll be surprised to find out there are intelligent people among the working class.

 

[Helios]

You'll be surprised to find out there are intelligent people among the working class.

I don't disagree. If they're given access to quality education which I support they won't be working class for very long

 

[repo]

I don't disagree. If they're given access to quality education which I support they won't be working class for very long

What's wrong with being working class? This is a matter of exploitation and wage theft. Are you a rich man?

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Capitalism is far more superior. State/Nationalist Capitalism for the win.

 

[Helios]

What's wrong with being working class? This is a matter of exploitation and wage theft. Are you a rich man?

Why wouldn't you want to advance in society? Nothing wrong with being working class but if you are born have kids and they don't end up doing better than you they've kinda failed imo. No I'm not wealthy

 

[Apollo]

Social Democracy (which is basically Capitalism with a human face) is the best the left can achieve for now. Communism will not work with the current state of international affairs and the level of scientific development/technological know-how of humanity.

 

[Helios]

Social Democracy (which is basically Capitalism with a human face) is the best the left can achieve for now. Communism will not work with the current state of international affairs and the level of scientific development/technological know-how of humanity.

What do you lean towards?

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[Apollo]

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That was a serious answer I believe in. For Communism to actually work you essentially need a One World Government (no nationalism and extensive global redistribution) and extreme 'star trek' level science and tech.

Social Democracy is the furthest left-wing I support for the West.

 

[Helios]

That was a serious answer I believe in. For Communism to actually work you essentially need a One World Government (no nationalism and extensive global redistribution) and extreme 'star trek' level science and tech.

Social Democracy is the furthest left-wing I support for the West.

No I meant that its pretty obvious that communism just won't work or be accepted in the West currently. I expected more out of you there lol.

 

[Apollo]

No I meant that its pretty obvious that communism just won't work or be accepted in the West currently. I expected more out of you there lol.

I think Communism can actually work, but only under those futuristic zero scarcity circumstances.

 

[Helios]

I think Communism can actually work, but only under those futuristic zero scarcity circumstances.

When there isn't anything to compete over then cooperation makes sense but space profits seem too lucrative lol

 

[Apollo]

@The Good

Check out this book or look up summaries or videos from the author about it, basically my above idea is from that: