Civil war enters second year in Ethiopia

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

some are, some amhara are also cannon fodder, like the ones they sent to fight at badme, or against tdf, the govt is the one conscripting everyone, not only from among the oromo.
abiy is against both amhara nationalism and oromo nationalism, because both threaten his power, which is why he wants to prolong the way, it weakens the oromo, the amhara and the tigrayans, and keeps his power intact.

Amhara nationalists have access to tanks and heavy artillery and can kill ENDF.
What can an Oromo nationalist do?
He is shot by abye when he throws rocks at police.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Not true, well, not entirely. The Amhara are about 40 percent of the army, the Oromo like 33-35%, at least it was like that under tplf. not sure about today, but they are recruiting in massive numbers and training them.
amhara die under the army and under their police and militia forces.

You know we are grown ups right.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

nigga said fight for one ethiopia. you are a fool. you call your amhara masters fellow comrades and ethiopians and then die for them. jawar is married to a christian oromo. that means amhara have him by his nuts. amharified agents of menelik and dog makonen will not capture addis ababa and put a spear through the heart of their habesha colonizers.

yeah amhara's fight for one ethiopia, is that a lie, or wrong?
can you show me where i called them ''my comrades''?
jawar was a threat to abiy's position, and of course, the amhara elites didn't like him, so that was that. politics is a messed up game, it is what it is.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

yeah amhara's fight for one ethiopia, is that a lie, or wrong?
can you show me where i called them ''my comrades''?
jawar was a threat to abiy's position, and of course, the amhara elites didn't like him, so that was that. politics is a messed up game, it is what it is.

Naah amhara fight for amhara priviledge aka make amhara great again where they would own Ethiopia like their private property and can knock on your ancestral home in Jimma and ask for the keys.

While oromos fight for amhara to dorminate them.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Amhara nationalists have access to tanks and heavy artillery and can kill ENDF.
What can an Oromo nationalist do?
He is shot by abye when he throws rocks at police.

The ones in the army do, not the average Amhara nationalist. But, if they gain popularity in their region, they can overthrow the amhara PP party, and go after abiy, and abiy would have no one but eritrea to rely on.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Naah amhara fight for amhara priviledge aka make amhara great again where they would own Ethiopia like their private property and can knock on your ancestral home in Jimma and ask for the keys.

While oromos fight for amhara to dorminate them.

ethiopian identity=amhara identity, in disguise, we all know it.
but let's be honest, they cannot return to the old system, they know it, abiy knows it, we all do, but it doesn't mean that they won't try.
if oromo were doing as you said, the situation would be a LOT different right now.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

ethiopian identity=amhara identity, in disguise, we all know it.
but let's be honest, they cannot return to the old system, they know it, abiy knows it, we all do, but it doesn't mean that they won't try.
if oromo were doing as you said, the situation would be a LOT different right now.

Werent you saying you shared ethiopian identity with amhara ?where is oromo in the equation you just showed? Do you suffer from amnesia?

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

The ones in the army do, not the average Amhara nationalist. But, if they gain popularity in their region, they can overthrow the amhara PP party, and go after abiy, and abiy would have no one but eritrea to rely on.

What about the oromos in the earmy what do they have serve amhara till the last breath?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

What about the oromos in the earmy what do they have serve amhara till the last breath?

They serve whoever is in control of the govt. Abiy saw tplf as a threat to his power, and went after them, and sadly enough, tigrayans too are caught in the middle. Eritrea of course, is involved.
It's like the army of siad barre that was bombing and killing innocent isaac during his rule, did they serve marehan interests or their governments interests?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Werent you saying you shared ethiopian identity with amhara ?where is oromo in the equation you just showed? Do you suffer from amnesia?

everyone under the borders of ethiopia, are ethiopian on paper, but we know historically, ethiopian culture and identity was more or less based on the amhara culture. no one denied this, ever.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

everyone under the borders of ethiopia, are ethiopian on paper, but we know historically, ethiopian culture and identity was more or less based on the amhara culture. no one denied this, ever.

Werent you claimming you guys and amhara had a shared rich history?

Why are you now claimming thay history is only amhara history?Didnt you earlier claim oromos contributed to this rich history?

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

They serve whoever is in control of the govt. Abiy saw tplf as a threat to his power, and went after them, and sadly enough, tigrayans too are caught in the middle. Eritrea of course, is involved.
It's like the army of siad barre that was bombing and killing innocent isaac during his rule, did they serve marehan interests or their governments interests?

Naah its different completely and you are using a very wrong analogy.
Maexan and Isaaq speak the same language and are same ethnic group? Non is forcing the other to adopt their somali culture which is one.

Comparing Marehan and Isaaq is like comparing Gonder amharas to Shewa amharas and not oromos.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Naah its different completely and you are using a very wrong analogy.
Maexan and Isaaq speak the same language and are same ethnic group? Non is forcing the other to adopt their somali culture which is one.

Comparing Marehan and Isaaq is like comparing Gonder amharas to Shewa amharas and not oromos.

It's different, but the same situation. - the government using its army, to fight for what's best for the government, whether it be through forcefully conscripting soldiers or by other means.
In fact, it it's even worse in the somali case, because you guys are all the same, yet massacred each other, especially with what siad barre did to the north, which is why SL decided to go its own way completely.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

Werent you claimming you guys and amhara had a shared rich history?

Why are you now claimming thay history is only amhara history?Didnt you earlier claim oromos contributed to this rich history?

When did I say that? I said that, SOME OROMO played a big role in Ethiopia's history, and this is true. however, the language, culture, etc, of ethiopia, is thought to be amhara. never said it was only amhara history either, i am saying that, it was their culture and language that became the de-facto language and cutlure of the ethio state.

 

[Calaf]

Not true, well, not entirely. The Amhara are about 40 percent of the army, the Oromo like 33-35%, at least it was like that under tplf. not sure about today, but they are recruiting in massive numbers and training them.
amhara die under the army and under their police and militia forces.

The army is 161k give or take, and your telling me that 64k of it is Amhara?

Forget about TPLF rule, today, Amhara could not be more than 20% in the army. Chain of command is a different case.

 

[Calaf]

1 year anniversary of the war is coming up anyways, and albeit fighting in Berhale, the war is basically a shitshow. ENDF lost momentum the moment they lost Mekelle.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

The army is 161k give or take, and your telling me that 64k of it is Amhara?

Forget about TPLF rule, today, Amhara could not be more than 20% in the army. Chain of command is a different case.

Today's army? The lower ranking soldiers? Who knows, let's be honest? You are talking based on mere conjecture, assumptions; but where's the proof?

 

[Abba Sadacha]

1 year anniversary of the war is coming up anyways, and albeit fighting in Berhale, the war is basically a shitshow. ENDF lost momentum the moment they lost Mekelle.

No army can beat a determined nation, which is what the tigrayans are. They see it as a war for their survival as a people, while abiy sees it as survival of his power politically.

 

[James Dahl]

OLA are consolidating base areas and building support in the countryside, stage one of Maoist people's war. They are not ready to undertake large offensives in this phase of people's war, and lack the heavy weapons to do so successfully, they are better off doing what they are doing, blocking roads and taking control of the Oromo countryside. When the time is right they will attack the cities and then march on the capital.

 

[World]

Oromos have put in zero work in the war, what happened to the OLA and TDF coalition? This is the only chance that Oromos have at attaining any bit of freedom. Imagine giving TDF drones and a nice air defense system it would be a show.

Tigray controlled the military and intelligence branches and all the important positions and gained experience there, and other ethnicities were not allowed near. Most the high ranking officers were Tigray. They have also been stockpiling weapons all these years. A significant amount of the advanced military hardware went to Tigray. They even kept the Ethiopian army weak because they knew a time would come that they would have to fight the Ethiopian army again. They’ve been preparing for this war for 30 years. The Oromos don’t have the weapons, advanced military hardware, logistics, skills and experience that the Tigray have. It’s not fair to compare them. And they are not even half as united and determined either.